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Nenonen posted:idgi why use trucks to deliver nukes when you could use ballistic missiles which are impossible to intercept??? Because you gotta bring the nuke to the missile factory, duh Unless we start firing the missiles at the nukes to pick them up along the way and then drop them off where ever they are supposed to 'splode...
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rotinaj posted:Because you gotta bring the nuke to the missile factory, duh Just build the nuke in the location you want to blow up.
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rotinaj posted:Because you gotta bring the nuke to the missile factory, duh that's what cruisin' missiles are for
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Segmentation Fox posted:Just build the nuke in the location you want to blow up. Listen, buddy, the city manager is already up my rear end about this project. I don't get this cone shaped object installed in the middle of this heavily populated city center, I'm hosed. Now can you stop pestering me?
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Couldn't the horrible terrist peeps just still use the hosed warhead to make a dirty bomb and still royally gently caress up a large area for centuries?
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Couldn't the horrible terrist peeps just still use the hosed warhead to make a dirty bomb and still royally gently caress up a large area for centuries? I'm theory yes, but do you have a plan of how to ambush one of these trucks, fight 10-20 heavily armed guards, somehow haul away a shipping container-sized block of hardened foam to your secret lair, chisel out the fissile material, strap it to a big enough boom-boom and transport THAT to your nearest soft target without the boom-boom or zap-zap killing you first...
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anonumos posted:I'm theory yes, but do you have a plan of how to ambush one of these trucks, fight 10-20 heavily armed guards, somehow haul away a shipping container-sized block of hardened foam to your secret lair, chisel out the fissile material, strap it to a big enough boom-boom and transport THAT to your nearest soft target without the boom-boom or zap-zap killing you first... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKRk2CxTQXM&t=67s
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Couldn't the horrible terrist peeps just still use the hosed warhead to make a dirty bomb and still royally gently caress up a large area for centuries? Dirty bombs are pretty much all hype and no boom. They're a shitload of trouble to make for no additional kinetic effect on target. Your best case scenario is you make whoever you just bombed spend a bunch of extra money cleaning up.
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I thought they were just like, regular bombs that blew radioactive poo poo everywhere.
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Feb 4, 2020 21:33
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It sprays a bunch of radioactive particles all over the place and then whatever country just spends a poo poo ton of time and money to clean it up by removing the topsoil and shipping it off to a less rich part of the country.
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goin by this thread and the chemistry thread its probably easier and cheaper to just use some sort of chemicalz and let the cancer rates do its thing.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I thought they were just like, regular bombs that blew radioactive poo poo everywhere. Radioactive solids are all very heavy, and thus tend to settle out of the air quickly even if you manage to aerosolize a bunch. Anything hot enough to be immediately dangerous to your victims is more than hot enough to kill your bomb maker. Those isotopes also tend to exist in incredibly small quantities, in difficult to access locations. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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Shut up Meg posted:One of my current theories is that at some point in the near future, we're going to learn about how something commonplace and believed harmless will turn out to be the cause of a major issue.
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I showed this to everyone in the safety trailer and the response was universally a mix of  and “find out where this is and fire everyone, I don’t care that they don’t work for us”.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I showed this to everyone in the safety trailer and the response was universally a mix of Based on the amount of water in the bottom of the pit you probably don't want to be there when the ground inevitably liquefies due to vibration from the digger.
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How effective would a dirty bomb that was an explosive inside a big block of asbestos be Also: can you even buy asbestos anymore? Dear GCHQ: this is a joke
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MikeCrotch posted:How effective would a dirty bomb that was an explosive inside a big block of asbestos be You sure can, but you might have problems getting it out of russia
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MikeCrotch posted:How effective would a dirty bomb that was an explosive inside a big block of asbestos be If you didn't mind the drive* you could just hire a truck and a small dozer and help yourself in Wittenoom. *or the inevitable lung disease
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BMan posted:You sure can, but you might have problems getting it out of russia
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Finding asbestos from demolition sites should be easy, you just need to set up some kind of asbestos collection company. That also does blasting so you can get explosives. But I doubt it would be very effective, long term exposure might be deadlier anyway. For terror purposes I don't think that an attack needs to be maximally deadly to be effective. The point is to make the survivors fear.
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I once worked with a person that thought because we offered asbestos removal, we should also offer asbestos installation. Explaining exactly how that does not work was fun. This would have been in about 2005.
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Just point them to a place that installs drum brakes
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At least it's not Asworstos, that stuff's really bad 
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Trump relaxed the rules on asbestos so maybe Americans at least might get to enjoy some horrific lung problems in the future.
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Here’s a pretty notable asbestos fuckup from around me: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.poughkeepsiejournal.com/amp/2846040001 This article leaves out the part where they weren’t telling the workers they were working on asbestos, and straight up putting it in regular dumpsters.
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Aramoro posted:Trump relaxed the rules on asbestos so maybe Americans at least might get to enjoy some horrific lung problems in the future. Make Americans Get Asbestosis
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PhazonLink posted:goin by this thread and the chemistry thread its probably easier and cheaper to just use some sort of chemicalz and let the cancer rates do its thing. If you wanted to be truly diabolical you set up a facility that continuously pumps out all kinds of nasty chemicals to the surrounding area. Say you will employ people to get a few local politicians on side. Now you are a job creator and what you are doing is perfectly legal. You might even score some tasty subsidies out of it.
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Aramoro posted:Trump relaxed the rules on asbestos so maybe Americans at least might get to enjoy some horrific lung problems in the future. Guess we're all getting the medal of freedom
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Varkk posted:If you wanted to be truly diabolical you set up a facility that continuously pumps out all kinds of nasty chemicals to the surrounding area. Say you will employ people to get a few local politicians on side. Now you are a job creator and what you are doing is perfectly legal. You might even score some tasty subsidies out of it.
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This is OSHA working. You can see how much he bounces when he hits the floor. That reminds of when my universities gym put in a climbing wall in 1999 or 2000 it put some old gym mats at the bottom in case someone fell. You know, the kind that you can feel the hard gym floor though when you fall on them.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Couldn't the horrible terrist peeps just still use the hosed warhead to make a dirty bomb and still royally gently caress up a large area for centuries? The danger of a dirty bomb is 999‰ panic and 1‰ direct health effects. MikeCrotch posted:How effective would a dirty bomb that was an explosive inside a big block of asbestos be This would cause more direct health effects but less panic so it wouldn’t be as good a weapon. The airliners hitting the World Trade Center released asbestos far more effectively than any purpose‐built device ever could, and still very few people care about the asbestos. 
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Rent-A-Cop posted:No. You vastly underestimate the idiocy of the general public. Nuke plants are "dangerous"despite having stupidly high standards for both security and safety, xrays at the hospital are "fine" and essentially can do no wrong and nobody's heard of a THERAC, bananas "aren't radioactive", and they absolutely would drink tea from fiestaware. The exact same reason there's a hundred minuteman silos in the middle of nowhere, USA is also a very good reason to just put a super secure massive nuke plant out there, but progressive energy policy first has to deal with the fossil fueling problem(the lead-addled boomers screaming NIMBY in Nebraska, not actual crude oil)
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In general, "people that make huge profits from the status quo" are the biggest obstacle to progress. The fossil fuel industry impedes nuclear power far more than a few nimbys.
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Kith posted:https://i.imgur.com/KqeoK8N.mp4 I know that road. Hey, Great Falls, what up? Malmstrom AFB is a constant source of OSHA. An MP who was visiting a friend of a friend of mine in college insisted on having me take his new Kia SUV to get the drunk idiots snacks. It was a complete piece of poo poo that could barely climb the mountain to campus, but that's not even the dumbest part. Dude starts telling me about his job. In detail. And, I mean, I was doing maybe 20mph in this poo poo-can Kia, so he had a lot of free time to blather. Then, suddenly he stopped. He stared into the middle distance. "Oh poo poo. All of that was like...super classified." 
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Jabor posted:In general, "people that make huge profits from the status quo" are the biggest obstacle to progress.
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what about the ultimate stink bomb, like that chemical that 1 drop of made a whole town vomit for days or something.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I know that road. Hey, Great Falls, what up? as a montanan i believe that great falls blows wet rear end
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PhazonLink posted:what about the ultimate stink bomb, like that chemical that 1 drop of made a whole town vomit for days or something. Don't worry, the US definitely looked in to something like that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb
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gently caress SNEEP posted:Don't worry, the US definitely looked in to something like that What about Who Me?
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