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pyrotek posted:Season 4 will surely be about Dougie getting elected.
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And More posted:"I'm gone. Long gone. Like a turkey in the corn." Gobble gobble!
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And More posted:I still haven't watched their video. This take, I completely disagree with, though. Chet's analysis is purposefully obtuse. You'd never be able to figure this out, if they didn't spell it out right afterwards. Let's also not forget that the barely noticeable poo poo is actually extremely important. Stanley is also not oblivious. His remark about the 27,000 $ office seems to imply that it's way too expensive. He can tell they've got some additional income they're not meant to have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVPA7GsThI&t=80s Another reason is that in the shooting draft, it's basically a running joke that Sam Stanley won't stop adding up the value of everything, not just at the sheriff station (Ctrl-F "dollars"). I can't remember if any of that actually made it into Missing Pieces though. Actually in doing that I just noticed this description of when Chet goes into the sheriff's office: quote:Desmond stalks to Sheriff Cable's office. Stanley remains behind continuing to observe every detail. Volte fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Feb 12, 2020 |
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What do you make of the fact that Gordon thinks Stanley is "good"? Also, Stanley notices two important details: the hemmed in dress and the blue rose. If you ask me, all that other stuff is pretty unimportant compared to the blue rose. He's clearly not a tough guy like Desmond, but I don't think he's necessarily unsuited for the job. Stanley's the one who discovered the letter, y'know. With his machine. Also from that shooting draft: STANLEY: What did Gordon's tie mean? DESMOND: What? That's just Gordon's bad taste. STANLEY: Why couldn't he have just told you all these things? DESMOND: He talks loud. And he loves his code. STANLEY: I see. He does talk loud.
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And More posted:What do you make of the fact that Gordon thinks Stanley is "good"? Also, Stanley notices two important details: the hemmed in dress and the blue rose. If you ask me, all that other stuff is pretty unimportant compared to the blue rose. He's clearly not a tough guy like Desmond, but I don't think he's necessarily unsuited for the job. Stanley's the one who discovered the letter, y'know. With his machine. I hadn't thought about this before you mentioned it, but Sam did see the blue rose, but he didn't mention it until prompted about it or consider it notable until Chet told him that he couldn't talk about it. After that, he became somewhat fixated on it, talking about it again later and also asking Cooper about it. It only became important to him because he was denied an explanation. Not an uncommon phenomenon among Lynch fans. And, for that matter, it's seemingly the entire motivation for Bad Cooper's existence. He apparently devoted his entire life to finding out who Judy is, just because nobody would tell him. Also not an uncommon phenomenon among Lynch fans... That said, even though I largely found out about some of these ideas in the Twin Perfect video, I strongly disagree with their actual interpretation, which is basically that David Lynch is bitter and resentful towards the stupid explanation-obsessed audience for getting Twin Peaks cancelled and subsequently that all of Season 3 is just him saying "gently caress you" to his fans by purposefully giving them nothing that they were hyped for as a petty form of revenge or something. On the contrary, I think David Lynch loves his audience and is grateful to them, and that any bitterness and resentment is towards the network television environment that ruined his show. That's why Sam isn't a bumbling moron, but is actually a smart guy. He's just got the wrong approach for this particular case. I'm not one to assign purely allegorical meanings to Lynch's work but, I mean, the first scene in the movie is a television getting destroyed. The sheriff that Chet beats the poo poo out of is literally named Cable. quote:Also from that shooting draft:
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Volte posted:If you want a real-life analogue of this, there was a fan theory that Ep17 and Ep18 are secretly meant to be watched overlaid on top of one another with people making careful notes of the associations between the corresponding parts and pondering their meanings in a Dark Side of the Moon + Wizard of Oz kind of way. Bullshit, says David Lynch. But he also follows it up by being complementary to the fans who come up with this kind of thing. Everyone's a detective, he has said repeatedly. But not all detectives are going to solve the case. I'm with you on some theories about this show being flimsy at best. A while ago, someone in this thread linked, a video essay attempting to align the entire original show and the Return in inverted order (except he removes 12 episodes because they don't count). Suffice it to say, the guy in the video does his best, but it's just a lot of conjecture with very little compelling evidence or even a reason given for why Lynch would do something that only conspiracy nuts could actually discover. I mean, a visual or thematic parallel works perfectly fine without such a herculean effort. Maybe these theories are an attempt at nailing down a fixed meaning for something that is multi-layered by nature. This moment from his (100% serious) conspiracy theory video is pretty good, though. He reveals the secret key to all of Twin Peaks, the true origin of the mysterious Billy. You've got to admire the brain's ability to connect even the most nonsensical things. And More fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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Feb 13, 2020 00:42
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No Mods No Masters posted:I think there will be a season 4, no one minds being back on the gravy train. You heard it here first BITCH.
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Hey so are we watching two episodes this week? S3E1 and E2 aired together. I've definitely come around to the "play the episodes together to get meaning" thing as not helpful. But I'm wondering if it's kind of lazy editing if you use the same pacing so often people can align whole scenes in that way, or is there an underlying rhythm that is intentional even if you aren't meant to overlap scenes?
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Feb 13, 2020 01:39
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gently caress. I just realized my ex left me the S3 Blu-rays, but took the Blu-Ray player.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:Hey so are we watching two episodes this week? S3E1 and E2 aired together.
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Volte posted:
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Rageaholic posted:Ohhh yeah, I forgot that happened. Yeah, we could! And we'd start at 11pm EST. It could be interesting to watch them separately. There is even a unique credits sequence for the first part. We're not even gonna take little break after FWWM, though? I feel a bit exhausted by that movie, tbh.
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Feb 13, 2020 07:11
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You have a week lol
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I mean we still have weeks and weeks of this left to go considering season 3 is 18 episodes. FWWM's exhausting to watch, yeah, but that's why we watched it a few nights ago.
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Feb 13, 2020 08:16
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If we watch the first two episodes this week, then that's one less week I have to wait to get to Episode 8  Edit: Watching Missing Pieces, "The Angels will return, and when you see the one who will help you, you will weep with joy" was so beautiful.... and then Leland calls on the phone 
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Feb 13, 2020 09:19
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The best part of The Missing Pieces is Pete explaining 2x4s to Dell Mibbler.
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"Is a dollar still worth what it used to be at your bank?" "  "Edit: Also wow there was a LOT more straight-up post-season 2 stuff in the original filmed footage for Fire Walk With Me, I had no idea about Annie and the ring or Cooper asking The Arm how to leave or Bad Coop explaining his laughter to Harry. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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Feb 13, 2020 13:02
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Jerusalem posted:Bad Coop explaining his laughter to Harry. Bad Coop's sense of humour is extremely bad. He's all like: "Do you get my clever double entendre, Harry? Do you?"
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the talk about bad coop in the bathroom reminded me of how much in those scenes he acts like he's testing out the "vessel" he's come into. Like when he's squeezing the toothpaste out of the tube into the sink, there's this sense of tactility but also symbolically the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube.
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Does anyone have thoughts on Annie’s dress (that she went into the lodge in her black Miss Twin Peaks dress and apparently came out in a floral dress)? Is the lesson from the Lil presentation that it’s a blue rose mystery that we aren’t supposed to question? It was flashed in the S2 finale as well.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:Does anyone have thoughts on Annie’s dress (that she went into the lodge in her black Miss Twin Peaks dress and apparently came out in a floral dress)? Is the lesson from the Lil presentation that it’s a blue rose mystery that we aren’t supposed to question? It was flashed in the S2 finale as well. I think it's Caroline's dress. No idea why the lodge had it in stock, though. Edit: Just pragmatically thinking, I bet her dress stayed the same between scenes to make her identifiable to new viewers. And More fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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Feb 13, 2020 16:53
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Scene from the Missing Missing Pieces Agents Chet Desmond and Sam Stanley in beige sedan pulling out of Twin Peaks Memorial Hospital parking lot. Agent Desmond: "What did you notice about her face?" Agent Stanley: "She was unresponsive. Catatonic..." Agent Desmond: <looks over at Stanley in the passenger seat and nods> Agent Stanley: "Catatonic... so.. the person who did that to her has cats?" Agent Desmond: "Gordon said you were good" Agent Stanley: <hugs machine to his chest>
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Feb 13, 2020 17:39
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Who's ready to start season 3 tonight? I am. I think this will be my first (or maybe second?) time watching the whole season since I got the Blu-Ray set. There aren't any Log Lady intros anymore, though, so we just dive right into the insanity.
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Feb 16, 2020 04:34
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I lent my dad the blu rays a while back and he started on season 3 by accident and was very confused. (he is 72)
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Feb 16, 2020 04:52
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Hype is real over on my end. Ready 2 fix my heart or die
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dr.acula posted:I lent my dad the blu rays a while back and he started on season 3 by accident and was very confused. (he is 72) My dad's almost 70 and I know for a fact he'd have no idea what the gently caress's going on if he started with season 3. e: btw, I'm doing the combined feature-length presentation of episodes 1 & 2 on the Blu-Ray Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 04:58
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The new intro is so well made 
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Remember 4 3 0. Richard and Linda. Two birds with 1 stone. e: Dr. Amp's golden shovels! e2: Yesssssssssss, Stoner Jerry Horne hahaha Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 05:05
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gently caress yes Jerry
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Feb 16, 2020 05:17
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American Woman remix 
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There he is! 
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Feb 16, 2020 05:22
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Buella kinda looks like an older Lil from FWWM in the face e: Don't do it Tracey 
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Feb 16, 2020 05:23
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Just as frightening the second time. 
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That body e: Log Lady! e2: I like how Lynch opted for the crappiest looking UI for the police department computers lmao Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 05:43
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Hello again Margaret 
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We live inside a dream, Bill. e: Woodsman! Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 06:01
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Love how everyone keeps knocking on the Hastings’ door and nobody touches the wolf door knocker
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Bad Coop is so drat threatening. Kyle MacLachlan really knocks it out of the park in this. e: Sheryl Lee still has a powerful scream! Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Feb 16, 2020 06:08
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"Oh, you're nice and wet!"  e: Old Ray Wise! e2: NON-EXIST-ENT e3: Sarah Palmer watching footage of an animal getting mutilated and the Chromatics! And James! He was always cool. Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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Carel Struycken as ?????
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