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Griefor
Jun 11, 2009
Under your own posts it should say "Self-plagiarize" instead of just "plagiarize" IMO.

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Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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Splicer posted:

That's exactly why I like plagiarise. Winding pedants up at words is always fun :getin:
AAWWWW YEAH

mobby_6kl posted:

It doesn't even make sense, since quoting with attribution is like the opposite of plagiarism :mad:

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006


90s Cringe Rock posted:

a body perfectly evolved to survive in the ring

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Stylesheet changes aren't a "most forums" thing, by the way, Inceltown, no need to scare the nice goons. Just us and CSPAM at the moment. :)

CSPAM has been asking for one for ages, so after Jeff came up with a clever one for them he coded it in. As for PYF, it's a little embarrassing to admit aloud but this subforum is pretty important to me. I've had a pretty rocky last few years and being part of this community has done a lot to help me get through it to the other side. I asked Jeff if he'd help me do something to try and express that appreciation and he did. :) and I'm sorry to the people doomed to be driven nuts by the American spelling of plagiarize :(

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DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




PinheadSlim posted:

Oh man, this guys listings are all gold




Ugleb posted:

No pinky?

grassy gnoll posted:

Eh, no shocker there.

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Stylesheet changes aren't a "most forums" thing, by the way, Inceltown, no need to scare the nice goons. Just us and CSPAM at the moment. :)

CSPAM has been asking for one for ages, so after Jeff came up with a clever one for them he coded it in. As for PYF, it's a little embarrassing to admit aloud but this subforum is pretty important to me. I've had a pretty rocky last few years and being part of this community has done a lot to help me get through it to the other side. I asked Jeff if he'd help me do something to try and express that appreciation and he did. :) and I'm sorry to the people doomed to be driven nuts by the American spelling of plagiarize :(

Aww you're a good birb and I hope your next few years are better and more relaxing ones. Thanks for having fun with us having fun

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Splicer posted:

AAWWWW YEAH

You mother fucker :arghfist:

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Stylesheet changes aren't a "most forums" thing, by the way, Inceltown, no need to scare the nice goons. Just us and CSPAM at the moment. :)

Those are the only two forums to care about so it may as well be everywhere.

Clitch
Feb 26, 2002

I lived through
Donald Trump's presidency
and all I got was
this lousy virus

Erebus posted:

sparing some expense

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
“Spared no expense” is ironic. Hammond cut corners everywhere.

It’s more explicit in the book.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

Platystemon posted:

“Spared no expense” is ironic. Hammond cut corners everywhere.

It’s more explicit in the book.

counter-point: the chilean sea bass dish looked pretty good. and that dino DNA animation couldn't have been too cheap back then. He only cut corners on things that actually mattered re: not getting your guests murdered.

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

LITERALLY A BIRD posted:

Stylesheet changes aren't a "most forums" thing, by the way, Inceltown, no need to scare the nice goons. Just us and CSPAM at the moment. :)

CSPAM has been asking for one for ages, so after Jeff came up with a clever one for them he coded it in. As for PYF, it's a little embarrassing to admit aloud but this subforum is pretty important to me. I've had a pretty rocky last few years and being part of this community has done a lot to help me get through it to the other side. I asked Jeff if he'd help me do something to try and express that appreciation and he did. :) and I'm sorry to the people doomed to be driven nuts by the American spelling of plagiarize :(

how else would you spell it?

revised to add: i'm a moron,n/m.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl
So i posted in here before about a specific quote i was looking for. specifically one I THOUGHT was adaptive systems but must have been by someone else.

It was about nihilism, and talked about Nirvana meaning the "snuffing out of a candle" and how there are no real nihilists left because the movement died out once we invented nukes and the goal of the movement became realistically possible. does ANYONE know what im talking about?

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

yeah I eat rear end posted:

counter-point: the chilean sea bass dish looked pretty good. and that dino DNA animation couldn't have been too cheap back then. He only cut corners on things that actually mattered re: not getting your guests murdered.

He was a salesman above all else. Even the "spared no expense" line was selling the park. He overpromised and is now desperately trying to stop people from recognizing his underdelivery.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Movie John Hammond is a very different character from novel John Hammond.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




The only time you really get a glimpse of book Hammond in the movie is when he's talking to Nedry. He just hates him so much he can't keep his grandfatherly facade up.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Chricton was always pretty aggressively antiscience in his writings despite being a massive libertarian.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Wanna do a Simpsonsmeme where instead of the Sea Captain it's Crichton and the quote now reads "Yar I hate the sea science and everything in it"

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

rodbeard posted:

Chricton was always pretty aggressively antiscience in his writings despite being a massive libertarian.

Yeah, The Lost World has a chapter where a character argues that evolution isn't real because "bats exist", and even child-me was like "What the gently caress?"

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Crichton is an incredibly reactionary shithead and I've hated him since I was forced to read Andromeda Strain in an advanced English class. Before that I had read Airframe, which in light of the recent news about Boeing is especially ironic.

The plot to Airframe is basically: Honest hard working female executive at the fictional Notte & Boeing is trying to figure out who is sabotaging their planes to make the company and the planes they lovingly craft to the highest safety standards look bad. One of the villains is a journalist who, if I recall correctly, states nearly verbatim: "I don't care if there is a problem with the plane's safety or not I am going to destroy your company and all the jobs you have created and become famous!" while Strong Female Executive pleads with them to consider all the fine people who rely on their products and employment.

He's a total shithead in his views.

Griefor
Jun 11, 2009

cumshitter posted:

Crichton is an incredibly reactionary shithead and I've hated him since I was forced to read Andromeda Strain in an advanced English class. Before that I had read Airframe, which in light of the recent news about Boeing is especially ironic.

The plot to Airframe is basically: Honest hard working female executive at the fictional Notte & Boeing is trying to figure out who is sabotaging their planes to make the company and the planes they lovingly craft to the highest safety standards look bad. One of the villains is a journalist who, if I recall correctly, states nearly verbatim: "I don't care if there is a problem with the plane's safety or not I am going to destroy your company and all the jobs you have created and become famous!" while Strong Female Executive pleads with them to consider all the fine people who rely on their products and employment.

He's a total shithead in his views.

To be fair, a profit driven coorporation putting profit above the safety of humans is kind of out of left field, like has that ever happened before? Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Movie John Hammond is a very different character from novel John Hammond.
As is Nedry. In the book he's a lot more relatable, and becomes more and more relatable the longer you personally spend being under staffed and responsible for delivering what other people are promising.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Splicer posted:

As is Nedry. In the book he's a lot more relatable.

I feel like a disproportionate amount of goons find film Nedry incredibly relatable

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Grassy Knowles posted:

I feel like a disproportionate amount of goons find film Nedry incredibly relatable

yeah it's really odd what with nedry being a smug unpleasant fat sarcastic computer janitor and all

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Grassy Knowles posted:

I feel like a disproportionate amount of goons find film Nedry incredibly relatable

*Eats whipped cream out of the can
*Fat guy in a Hawaiian shirt
*Inexplicably Good At Computer despite being kind of a dumbfuck
*Went outside ONE TIME and died almost immediately

...gently caress.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Also Andromeda Strain loving sucked because at least 1/8th of the book is about the decontamination procedure the scientists undergo to enter the government virus lab and Crichton just glazes over the medical enemas they receive in a couple sentences.

Edit: If you really want a good book, read The Tale of the Body Snatcher by Anne Rice. In it, Lestat switches his super power and immortal vampire body with a mortal and there are absolutely no totally forseeable consequences to this. He spends several pages bitching about the indignity of having to take a poo poo, which really helps you understand his character and is based on Anne Rice's known struggles with Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

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Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

cumshitter posted:

Also Andromeda Strain loving sucked because at least 1/8th of the book is about the decontamination procedure the scientists undergo to enter the government virus lab and Crichton just glazes over the medical enemas they receive in a couple sentences.

All those cumshits will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

cumshitter posted:

Also Andromeda Strain loving sucked because at least 1/8th of the book is about the decontamination procedure the scientists undergo to enter the government virus lab
Lmao, this just reminded me of coming across the movie adaptation part-way through on TV as a kid. I never knew what movie it was until this post and looking at imdb to confirm it WAS a movie, but what other movies have endless scenes of the characters going through some complex decontamination process?

Those scenes are all I remember watching of it, it went on forever and I don't even think I reached the end of them becoming decontaminated (one character tried to have a smoke part-way through and one of the others chewed them out because it would undo the whole process and they'd have to do it again!)

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

cumshitter posted:

He spends several pages bitching about the indignity of having to take a poo poo, which really helps you understand his character and is based on Anne Rice's known struggles with Irritable Bowel Syndrome.
Finally, Lestat is relatable.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

cumshitter posted:

Also Andromeda Strain loving sucked because at least 1/8th of the book is about the decontamination procedure the scientists undergo to enter the government virus lab and Crichton just glazes over the medical enemas they receive in a couple sentences.

Edit: If you really want a good book, read The Tale of the Body Snatcher by Anne Rice. In it, Lestat switches his super power and immortal vampire body with a mortal and there are absolutely no totally forseeable consequences to this. He spends several pages bitching about the indignity of having to take a poo poo, which really helps you understand his character and is based on Anne Rice's known struggles with Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

It's better than the one where he snacks down on a maxi pad.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Eh! Frank posted:

Lmao, this just reminded me of coming across the movie adaptation part-way through on TV as a kid. I never knew what movie it was until this post and looking at imdb to confirm it WAS a movie, but what other movies have endless scenes of the characters going through some complex decontamination process?

Those scenes are all I remember watching of it, it went on forever and I don't even think I reached the end of them becoming decontaminated (one character tried to have a smoke part-way through and one of the others chewed them out because it would undo the whole process and they'd have to do it again!)

Crichton ,just spends so much time talking about stuff that has no meaningful impact on the plot, which from what I can remember is about a bacteria or a virus that only lives in the uppermost part of the atmosphere, making it a non-threat, that eats through human flesh. They figure this out because for a fighter pilot crashes his jet and the mouth piece that attaches to his oxygen mask is, for some reason, made out of a fleshlike rubber material. They somehow figure this out from a crashed jet filled with jet fuel that destroyed the body. It might have been a virus, but viruses don't infect rubber so it had to be a bacteria. Which makes the idea that they are having trouble killing it less believable. There's a scene where they actually do find the cure, but the guy watching the results of 1,000 petri dishes falls asleep and he misses it. This is never revisited as far as I remember and they just find a different solution.

There's just so much rambling poo poo that has no impact on anything that in retrospect seems like padding to satisfy a minimum page number for his publisher. Like Crichton even goes into loving detail about the woman who records the voice for the alarm in their science lab bedrooms, talking about how she's a nice old lady from Nevada who is in her 70's but sounds like a pleasant, sultry 20-something.

I think my teacher just liked Crichton. I remember struggling to answer homework assignments because there is no deeper meaning to a Crichton book, it was just some rightwing weirdo regurgitating some poo poo he read in a popular science magazine with a terrible narrative tying his "I loving love science!" thoughts about how to clean someone's butthole and there was nothing to examine either culturally or within the text itself.

Also in the movie it briefly shows a dead woman's breasts breasts for a moment and all the other boys in class really liked it but I didn't see how it advanced the narrative or had any substantial impact on the plot.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Disclosure may well be the most mid-90s book there is.

RabbitWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Muldoon

christmas boots posted:

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oldpainless posted:

I’m a fan of the old triple Ds

Baba Yaga Fanboy posted:

more like oldddpainless

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




About Nazis in tabletop gaming:

moths posted:

This industry has more nazis than our space program

PinheadSlim posted:

something something operation pen & paperclip

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

cumshitter posted:

Crichton ,just spends so much time talking about stuff that has no meaningful impact on the plot, which from what I can remember is about a bacteria or a virus that only lives in the uppermost part of the atmosphere, making it a non-threat, that eats through human flesh. They figure this out because for a fighter pilot crashes his jet and the mouth piece that attaches to his oxygen mask is, for some reason, made out of a fleshlike rubber material. They somehow figure this out from a crashed jet filled with jet fuel that destroyed the body. It might have been a virus, but viruses don't infect rubber so it had to be a bacteria. Which makes the idea that they are having trouble killing it less believable. There's a scene where they actually do find the cure, but the guy watching the results of 1,000 petri dishes falls asleep and he misses it. This is never revisited as far as I remember and they just find a different solution.

IIRC some of this is backwards. For much of the book the Andromeda Strain is a direct threat to humans at ground level; the fighter crash is the first clue that it's mutating away from destroying human blood and towards eating rubber. The 1000 petri dishes thing is because he told the computer to run literally every test they had on it under every possible parameter value, producing a combinatorial explosion of results, and only later on do they realize what they should have been looking for and discover that it was buried in that pile all along. And by the time they get this sorted out the mutation foreshadowed by the fighter crash has happened to their lab samples and the result isn't helpful.

quote:

There's just so much rambling poo poo that has no impact on anything that in retrospect seems like padding to satisfy a minimum page number for his publisher.

It's a mystery/detective story rather than straight sci-fi so yeah, most of it is detailed descriptions of people competently executing procedures while fumbling around with limited information. And screwing up in boring ways like failing to read incoming news feeds or being called away from the lab at a critical moment. I think it's even presented as a dramatization of a fictional post-crisis debrief document. I liked it when I was much younger but I don't know if I'd have the patience for it today.

That said, Crichton is definitely bad and young me spent way too long giving credence to his climate change denial screed.

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Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
I'm just there for the cool-rear end dinosaurs and to laugh at the bad science. Even Especially if the dinosaurs are the bad science.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I never read COMA but did he ever actually address the twist that the hospital is farming prime athletes for organ transplants for the rich doesn't really make a ton of sense medically? Like atrophy in the human body happens insanely fast, so you can't really keep bodies around to farm for most organs beyond maybe a month or two at most.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Crichton is what you read when you want dumb motherfuckers to think you’re a smart motherfucker but then actual smart motherfuckers (like every goon in this thread) KNOW you’re a dumb motherfucker.

In conclusion Crichton is the only person to have had a number one book, movie and TV show in the same year. He did this twice.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

mind the walrus posted:

I never read COMA but did he ever actually address the twist that the hospital is farming prime athletes for organ transplants for the rich doesn't really make a ton of sense medically? Like atrophy in the human body happens insanely fast, so you can't really keep bodies around to farm for most organs beyond maybe a month or two at most.

Coma wasn’t Crichton, that was Robin Cook. I only know that from binging IDEOTV over the last month.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

oldpainless posted:

Crichton is what you read when you want dumb motherfuckers to think you’re a smart motherfucker

Like Michael Chrichton? I think you mean Jordan Peterson, Ayn Rand, and/or anyone who writes for the New Yorker.

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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I thought the New Yorker was just for holding like you read it, but not actually reading it?

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