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Is that not just a giggles twitter? I thought that was the whole schtick when they mentioned receiving their 800th f22 which had less than 300 built and wasnt sold to the RAF last i knew
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It's a gimmick account, they just post crazy poo poo and watch people get riled up.
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Stravag posted:Is that not just a giggles twitter? I thought that was the whole schtick when they mentioned receiving their 800th f22 which had less than 300 built and wasnt sold to the RAF last i knew I didn't even notice that it said 850th F22, just noticed it said F35 for the first one 
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tylertfb posted:Ok I tried to do some quick calculations on a 1600km cannon and by my figuring you have to have a ~7300 m/s muzzle velocity at an 8degree angle to reach ~1600km and keep the shot in the lower mesosphere (60km high). This seems...kind of extreme. You could do it with a nuclear cannon. The nuclear part is the powder charge.
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There’s no RAF station at Luton, it’s a joke account.
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monkeytennis posted:There’s no RAF station at Luton, it’s a joke account. TBF, it looks like there was one during WW2, No. 264 Squadron (KV) flew Boulton Paul Defiants (  ) out of there.Although I strongly suspect "was an RAF station" could be said of every airport in the east or south of England during that period?
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Schadenboner posted:TBF, it looks like there was one during WW2, No. 264 Squadron (KV) flew Boulton Paul Defiants ( After all, Orwell didn't invent the name Airstrip One out of whole cloth.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:If you could put a workable 1,600km range gun on a frigate sized ship Except for the brief portion of powered flight, this is just a ballistic missile. Electric Wrigglies posted:, it would obsolete carriers. And this is definitely what China hopes.
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Are there any examples of "guided" artillery projectiles in practical use today? That's a serious question since I'm not very knowledgeable about modern artillery, but it seems like if you put a 1000nm guidance capability on a shell you're like 70% of the way to a cruise missile and about 99% of a JDAM, and those things aren't exactly cheap enough to use for massed bombardment. That was the whole issue with the AGS on the USS Zumwalt, they designed it to exclusively use these completely bonkers wunderwaffen projectiles that were so expensive they never bought any. So now the gun is just dead weight and wasted space.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Are there any examples of "guided" artillery projectiles in practical use today? That's a serious question since I'm not very knowledgeable about modern artillery, but it seems like if you put a 1000nm guidance capability on a shell you're like 70% of the way to a cruise missile and about 99% of a JDAM, and those things aren't exactly cheap enough to use for massed bombardment. That was the whole issue with the AGS on the USS Zumwalt, they designed it to exclusively use these completely bonkers wunderwaffen projectiles that were so expensive they never bought any. So now the gun is just dead weight and wasted space. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M982_Excalibur
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Are there any examples of "guided" artillery projectiles in practical use today? That's a serious question since I'm not very knowledgeable about modern artillery, but it seems like if you put a 1000nm guidance capability on a shell you're like 70% of the way to a cruise missile and about 99% of a JDAM, and those things aren't exactly cheap enough to use for massed bombardment. That was the whole issue with the AGS on the USS Zumwalt, they designed it to exclusively use these completely bonkers wunderwaffen projectiles that were so expensive they never bought any. So now the gun is just dead weight and wasted space. PGKs for 155 rounds are dirt cheap* *not dirt cheap
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At this point I'm pretty sure there's a PGM kit for a refrigerator.
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wiegieman posted:At this point I'm pretty sure there's a PGM kit for a refrigerator. That's basically JPADS.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Are there any examples of "guided" artillery projectiles in practical use today? Being laser guided, it has limitations that modern GPS guided munitions don’t, but I think Copperhead reached service in 1982.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Are there any examples of "guided" artillery projectiles in practical use today? That's a serious question since I'm not very knowledgeable about modern artillery, but it seems like if you put a 1000nm guidance capability on a shell you're like 70% of the way to a cruise missile and about 99% of a JDAM, and those things aren't exactly cheap enough to use for massed bombardment. That was the whole issue with the AGS on the USS Zumwalt, they designed it to exclusively use these completely bonkers wunderwaffen projectiles that were so expensive they never bought any. So now the gun is just dead weight and wasted space. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1156_Precision_Guidance_Kit
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Neat! And it sounds like it's actually been fairly successful, which is always a surprise.
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So the question I have about the hyper-ranged rocket-assisted artillery shell is, how do you get it to hit anything but a stationary target you have a laser pointed at or the exact GPS coordinates of?
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You could use whatever seeker heads are in mavericks and hellfires to have it track a target with fins that it only deploys when its in the target area as a quick idea off the top of my head. I dont know if those can independently pick targets or not but its an option. It wouldnt be great but im assuming if youre using a 1600km range rocket assisted artillery shell its because you couldn't get a platform to deploy tomahawks safely so you would go with what you can make fit in the shell and would improve you chances of whatever youre aiming at. It would also depend on what youre trying to hit. Youre not going to try and hit individual tanks from 1600 km out I would imagine, but if youre launching at a ship a radar seeker would probably be an easy and effective option.
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Blistex posted:So the question I have about the hyper-ranged rocket-assisted artillery shell is, how do you get it to hit anything but a stationary target you have a laser pointed at or the exact GPS coordinates of? Why does it need a requirement to hit things other than the ones you just described?
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I didn't realize the 4th anniversary of that was coming up. I should bake a cake or something for the guy who was flying it.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I didn't realize the 4th anniversary of that was coming up. I should bake a cake or something for the guy who was flying it. Was that flight suit ever wearable again after that?
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Flikken posted:Was that flight suit ever wearable again after that? Doesn't need to be worn, it has structural rigidity from all the bodily fluids left inside it.
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Flikken posted:Was that flight suit ever wearable again after that? Probably, the guy's a very good pilot and he said his reaction was pretty much "well, I guess I should add power and raise the gear now".
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poo poo like this wouldn't happen if they used the ISO 8601 standard for their timestamping. 
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wiegieman posted:At this point I'm pretty sure there's a PGM kit for a refrigerator. The man has a name, and it's William Perry.
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That dark shirt on the deck was about 6 feet from getting a face full of arrestor wire
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Here's an interview with the pilots of that Hawkeye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da39t2DNYqU Mazz posted:That dark shirt on the deck was about 6 feet from getting a face full of arrestor wire Sounds like someone else did catch it to the face, and then some. https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2016/07/14/horrific-cable-mishap-caused-by-maintenance-errors-navy/ quote:Meanwhile, the No. 4 wire snapped and swung across the flight deck, hitting eight sailors and causing injuries from minor lacerations to broken bones and a cracked skull, some of which the sailors are still healing from months later.
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Nothing some Motrin and change of socks can’t fix.
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I guess I'm surprised it's an even potentially survivable event? I thought the wires were more high-tension than they were, like they were storing "literally cut you in loving half" amounts of energy?
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If you get hit with the end of it that snapped yeah youre gonna have a real bad day. If you get smacked by the end that didnt snap it wont have nearly the velocity so it's survivable. I wouldnt want to get hit by either option personally
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A fun failure mode that could also apply to space elevators!
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quote:One sailor suffered a fractured skull, multiple non-operable facial fractures, a pulmonary contusion, a fractured pelvis, a broken shin bone and trauma to his genitals, according to the report.. He also damaged both knees, with tears to both his anterior cruciate ligaments, a torn medial collateral ligament and a torn iliotibial band Just put a lethal dose of morphine in me, please and thank you.
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Kesper North posted:A fun failure mode that could also apply to space elevators! A cable that could wrap around the earth 3 times? I’m not seeing a problem here.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Probably, the guy's a very good pilot and he said his reaction was pretty much "well, I guess I should add power and raise the gear now". You should be at full power (well, depending on aircraft, full non-afterburner power) from the moment you touch down anyway, in case something like this happens.
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Kesper North posted:A fun failure mode that could also apply to space elevators!
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Schadenboner posted:I guess I'm surprised it's an even potentially survivable event? I thought the wires were more high-tension than they were, like they were storing "literally cut you in loving half" amounts of energy? That's a myth, they did it on Mythbusters and couldn't even get a steel cable to cut a watermelon. Sure smack the watermelon across the room though.
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Nylon tow ropes will def. gently caress your world up though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGH_GUbdTeQ
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