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david_a posted:I can tell you this is one of the reasons Deere is so locked down. When your quarter-million dollar tractor is autonomously driving with a 120 foot planter and it clips a tree or runs into something and damages people and/or property, the legal mess that would come from a user-serviced or replaced part in the mix would not be pretty. Perhaps some laws for who is to blame in a self-driving car accident would clarify the situation, but it might just mean that everyone follows Deere’s lead and only lets the self-driving functions work in the most absolutely locked-down environments with paper trails for every component. I don't think autonomous driving like that is yet allowed or possible. The driver still needs to be present and the GPS just handles steering at exact lines. Theoretically that driver could probably hop off, but doing that from a briskly moving tractor is a sure way to get gored by whatever implement is attached.
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Saukkis posted:I don't think autonomous driving like that is yet allowed or possible. The driver still needs to be present and the GPS just handles steering at exact lines. Theoretically that driver could probably hop off, but doing that from a briskly moving tractor is a sure way to get gored by whatever implement is attached. Deere’s system still requires “butt in seat” as a CYA, but if injury/damage is involved who knows if that’s good enough. They are working on drone tractors too but that’s still a few years away at minimum.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Terrible car stuff is not paying more for your vehicle registration? That baby is a classic.
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Saukkis posted:I don't think autonomous driving like that is yet allowed or possible. The driver still needs to be present and the GPS just handles steering at exact lines. Theoretically that driver could probably hop off, but doing that from a briskly moving tractor is a sure way to get gored by whatever implement is attached. the driver is definitely watching netflix on his phone and the rules are very lax, there aint no NHTSA out in the field one of the advantages of precision ag stuff is it allows much better performance in night ops
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Terrible car stuff is not paying more for your vehicle registration? I totally understand why they did it, it just offends me on a deep level that that car could ever be called a "classic."
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xzzy posted:I totally understand why they did it, it just offends me on a deep level that that car could ever be called a "classic." I don't know the law in Nevada but in Maryland you're specifically not allowed to use historic tags on vehicles used for transportation to and from employment, school, or for commercial purposes. Yet I've seen several on beat up Civics and Camrys looking like that Corolla. So the terrible car stuff would be illegally abusing the system if Nevada's laws are similar. Edit: looks like only real restriction in Nevada is that you not put on more than 5k miles per year.
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xzzy posted:I totally understand why they did it, it just offends me on a deep level that that car could ever be called a "classic." Looks like a base model Corolla because it's got the grey center trunk panel and no DX/SE badging so it would have the miserable 3 speed automatic transmission and 1.6l 4A-FE engine. Astonishingly slow, but hard to kill. My grandma had a 1996 trimmed the same. Even with your foot welded to the floor it could barely maintain speed up some hills. A lot of "classic" cars had 3 speed autoboxes in them, that's about the only thing that it shares in common though.
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davebo posted:I don't know the law in Nevada but in Maryland you're specifically not allowed to use historic tags on vehicles used for transportation to and from employment, school, or for commercial purposes. Yet I've seen several on beat up Civics and Camrys looking like that Corolla. So the terrible car stuff would be illegally abusing the system if Nevada's laws are similar. they also don't really track any of this stuff if you're not in an inspection state so feel free to put however many miles you want on there!
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Vanagoon posted:My grandma had a 1996 trimmed the same. Even with your foot welded to the floor it could barely maintain speed up some hills. I mean, my Brokeback Outback (bit newer, 2003 model year) needs the pedal through the firewall to even dream of maintaining speed uphill; there's some hills around here that I get a good running 70 MPH start @ WOT, and I'm doing 50, MAYBE 55, with the temp gauge rising by the time I hit the top, with the stupid transmission jumping between 2nd and 3rd constantly unless I force it into 2nd (hit 55, upshift to 3rd, slow down to 50 because it doesn't have enough torque to maintain speed at lower RPMs, downshift to 2nd, rinse repeat for a mile or two). Though to be fair, it runs a nearly 20 second 1/4 mile stock, 0-60 is something like laughs in 1979 Mercedes 240D. And forcing it into 2nd means I'm still gonna top out at 55, banging the rev limiter. I'm not sure which is worse, letting it sit at 6000 RPM or bouncing between 2nd and 3rd on the worn out automatic. The latter ensures slippy sloppy shifts by the time I hit the top, so I just pull into the dedicated truck lane when I hit those hills (and watch 3 speed Corollas fly by  )davebo posted:I don't know the law in Nevada but in Maryland you're specifically not allowed to use historic tags on vehicles used for transportation to and from employment, school, or for commercial purposes. Yet I've seen several on beat up Civics and Camrys looking like that Corolla. So the terrible car stuff would be illegally abusing the system if Nevada's laws are similar. TX has both classic and antique plates. IIRC classic is open to any 24+ year old car, while antique is only open to cars that are 24+ years old and ONLY driven to/from car shows (and shops). Antique exempts you from yearly inspections IIRC, but a bored cop will pull you over immediately if you aren't in an immaculate car that happens to have antique plates, and you bet your rear end you'll get a big rear end ticket if you can't immediately name the shop or car show you're going to. I think classic carries the same safety inspection, I don't remember if the yearly fees differ. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Mar 12, 2020 |
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davebo posted:I don't know the law in Nevada but in Maryland you're specifically not allowed to use historic tags on vehicles used for transportation to and from employment, school, or for commercial purposes. Yet I've seen several on beat up Civics and Camrys looking like that Corolla. So the terrible car stuff would be illegally abusing the system if Nevada's laws are similar. Vegas has tons of untagged cars period. They ain't nabbing anyone for getting classic tags and such.
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cursedshitbox posted:No prob! No you specifically - I know you're a Schmott Guy. The doofy-doof that said there shouldn't be machines he couldn't fix. quote:That said, it's all loving bullshit. I'm all for right to repair. If you can't fix it, you don't own it. This applies to a hell of a lot more than just Teslas and John Deeres. drat straight. If I'm not allowed to fix it, I don't own it.  https://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto KillHour posted:There's a computer in your taillight that communicates with your ECU? WHY? Because CANBUS, and Ze Germans. xzzy posted:ugh. Low standards for "Classic". STR posted:TX has both classic and antique plates. IIRC classic is open to any 24+ year old car, while antique is only open to cars that are 24+ years old and ONLY driven to/from car shows (and shops). Antique exempts you from yearly inspections IIRC, but a bored cop will pull you over immediately if you aren't in an immaculate car that happens to have antique plates, and you bet your rear end you'll get a big rear end ticket if you can't immediately name the shop or car show you're going to. I think classic carries the same safety inspection, I don't remember if the yearly fees differ. Classic plates also cost extra. Because they say "Classic" on them. That's it. Antique plates do allow some pleasure driving outside of transporting to/from events, I think. They *also* allow you to run "year of manufacture" plates, which is cool.
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I'd rather see a Corolla with classic plates then have to defend why my car is a classic. Defining it by year and a mileage restriction is adequate for me.
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I'm leaning more towards wrong thread on this, but I'll post it anyway.
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The funny thing is, farm machinery being a pain in the rear end to repair isn't new. Back when I used to live in the outback, instead of having an old ute up on bricks in the front yard we had a freaking defunct combine harvester that was being slowly scavenged for parts, since it was apparently easier to buy a new one (or maybe another used one) than to fix up the old one. I used to climb up in it and pretend it was a spaceship. Things were really surreal out there in retrospect.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The funny thing is, farm machinery being a pain in the rear end to repair isn't new. Back when I used to live in the outback, instead of having an old ute up on bricks in the front yard we had a freaking defunct combine harvester that was being slowly scavenged for parts, since it was apparently easier to buy a new one (or maybe another used one) than to fix up the old one. I used to climb up in it and pretend it was a spaceship. There was a man in the village we are from who had an entire yard filled with old equipment he was stripping parts from. Most of the tractors around there are old and small, many from defunct manufacturers. The county government finally made him clean up his stuff, lest he got popped for running an illegal junkyard. Our local Lanz Bulldog specialist got tons of poo poo out of that deal. Any time, day or night, you can call this dude up and he'll rummage around in the stash for parts to fix your 60-100 year old tractor.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Welcome to the future of auto repair The saddest part of this is that this isn't the future. This video came out in 2018 and got reposted because nothing has changed.
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I'm about to slap antique plates on my 25 year old Corolla. The 5-speed makes it a classic, uh, legally and such.
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I'm renewing my S2000 registration with collector car insurance for that cool emissions bypass, gently caress it
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The funny thing is, farm machinery being a pain in the rear end to repair isn't new. Back when I used to live in the outback, instead of having an old ute up on bricks in the front yard we had a freaking defunct combine harvester that was being slowly scavenged for parts, since it was apparently easier to buy a new one (or maybe another used one) than to fix up the old one. I used to climb up in it and pretend it was a spaceship. Did you grow up in the same village as Simon Stålenhag?
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Humphreys posted:To turn on an LED on the dash to say to refill the blinker fluid. If certificated aircraft can figure this out, then tractors can. I'm supporting 20-year-old equipment that does full handshaking on both ends. If one piece of gear doesn't have the right mod level, then the computer just gets a flag saying "config error." It doesn't fail to work. The computer realizes part numbers and information are all compatible, it's just not 100% certified with that hardware config, so it lets you know, then lets you keep flying. The central computer system was programmed with the mindset that the dude with his butt in the seat is fundamentally responsible for the safety of the device he's operating, and the central computer is just there to let him know if anything deviates from what left the factory. Ask where the disconnect between Cessna and John Deere is on design mentality.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:If certificated aircraft can figure this out, then tractors can. I'm supporting 20-year-old equipment that does full handshaking on both ends. If one piece of gear doesn't have the right mod level, then the computer just gets a flag saying "config error." It doesn't fail to work. The computer realizes part numbers and information are all compatible, it's just not 100% certified with that hardware config, so it lets you know, then lets you keep flying. The central computer system was programmed with the mindset that the dude with his butt in the seat is fundamentally responsible for the safety of the device he's operating, and the central computer is just there to let him know if anything deviates from what left the factory. It's that aviation is highly regulated, tractoration is highly not.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Ask where the disconnect between Cessna and John Deere is on design mentality. AOG != TOG
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From the "What the gently caress is this bullshit!?" department. No your eyes do not deceive you, that is in fact the starter hiding inside the transmission bellhousing  .I have no idea what vehicle this is from, found it on reddit somewhere.
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BEntleys and Mclarens in the background, but I read in this thread that the RWD Nissan trucks/SUVs have this design. Should probably get used to it though as the 48v mild hybrids just use the electric motor between the engine and the trans as the starter so they will functionally be the same as this.
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The lambo on the lift in the background and the Bentley up top tell me it's some expensive bullshit.
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Vanagoon posted:From the "What the gently caress is this bullshit!?" department. Good golly; I thought internally mounted clutch slave cylinders were dumb enough but an internally mounted starter tops that imo. That's right up there with BMW putting coolant passage covers on the back of the engine block inside the transmission bellhousing. Never change european automotive engineers 
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coupedeville posted:Good golly; I thought internally mounted clutch slave cylinders were dumb enough but an internally mounted starter tops that imo. That's right up there with BMW putting coolant passage covers on the back of the engine block inside the transmission bellhousing. Never change european automotive engineers Someone somewhere is really loving proud of that.
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Do you come from a land down under? Where car companies go under. Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder? First Holden now Honda
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Meanwhile Honda NZ just announced they’re opening the Mugen catalogue for anyone to buy from and making 10 fully loaded Mugen Type Rs available
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MRC48B posted:The lambo on the lift in the background and the Bentley up top tell me it's some expensive bullshit. Assuming you mean the orange car, that's a McLaren. Anyone know what the black car in the middle is?
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david_a posted:I can tell you this is one of the reasons Deere is so locked down. When your quarter-million dollar tractor is autonomously driving with a 120 foot planter and it clips a tree or runs into something and damages people and/or property, the legal mess that would come from a user-serviced or replaced part in the mix would not be pretty. Perhaps some laws for who is to blame in a self-driving car accident would clarify the situation, but it might just mean that everyone follows Deere’s lead and only lets the self-driving functions work in the most absolutely locked-down environments with paper trails for every component. This is a poo poo.excuse, sorry.
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KillHour posted:Assuming you mean the orange car, that's a McLaren. Anyone know what the black car in the middle is? Orange has the nose of a Mclaren 720s One in the middle is probably a Senna
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Humphreys posted:Do you come from a land down under? 
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CommieGIR posted:This is a poo poo.excuse, sorry. still a legitimate concern
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This is literally a block from my parents' house.kinda want to find the owner and offer 'em a couple hundred bucks and Roadkill it out of there.     No idea what engine it has, I don't know how to open the hood of a '73 Camaro and didn't want to break anything trying. Probably a seized 305, but if ever there was a project car to plop a 350 SBC crate motor into ...
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That Works posted:Not everything is worth fixing. Yeah, it's a bit too far gone even by Roadkill Disgustang standards. It's not the most rotten thing I've considered restoring and thought better of, but it's close. Edit: I'd have to buy/build a running 2nd-gen Camaro and just swap the body panels for the patina. I want a car that looks like that but with an interior and a badass engine. Edit again: and glass in all the windows and working door latches (the passenger window is gone and the door doesn't open, the driver's door won't close. I left it as I found it.) Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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That Works posted:Not everything is worth fixing. And yet there are those on YouTube who would argue that point. I've following one guy who is rebuilding a 911 Targa that was more rust than car. And another guy rebuilding a similarly destroyed Fiero.
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