[canada] I don't need to take lessons on marginalized people. I'm ITALIAN!

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Randalor: Sep 4, 2011

What place is that so we can refuse to do business with them because they are putting me (read: the customer) in danger?

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:04

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:15

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

EvilJoven posted:

What are the odds it'll go from means tested to just 'gently caress it here's $2000' as our society slowly falls apart over the next few weeks?

They changed it. It no longer says "up to $900 every two weeks" it now just says "everyone gets $2000"
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2020/03/introduces-canada-emergency-response-benefit-to-help-workers-and-businesses.html

quote:

News release

March 25, 2020 - Ottawa, Ontario - Department of Finance Canada

The Government of Canada is taking strong, immediate and effective action to protect Canadians and the economy from the impacts of the global COVID-19 pandemic. No Canadian should have to choose between protecting their health, putting food on the table, paying for their medication or caring for a family member.

To support workers and help businesses keep their employees, the government has proposed legislation to establish the Canada Emergency Response Benefit (CERB). This taxable benefit would provide $2,000 a month for up to four months for workers who lose their income as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. The CERB would be a simpler and more accessible combination of the previously announced Emergency Care Benefit and Emergency Support Benefit.

The CERB would cover Canadians who have lost their job, are sick, quarantined, or taking care of someone who is sick with COVID-19, as well as working parents who must stay home without pay to care for children who are sick or at home because of school and daycare closures. The CERB would apply to wage earners, as well as contract workers and self-employed individuals who would not otherwise be eligible for Employment Insurance (EI).

Additionally, workers who are still employed, but are not receiving income because of disruptions to their work situation due to COVID-19, would also qualify for the CERB. This would help businesses keep their employees as they navigate these difficult times, while ensuring they preserve the ability to quickly resume operations as soon as it becomes possible.

The EI system was not designed to process the unprecedented high volume of applications received in the past week. Given this situation, all Canadians who have ceased working due to COVID-19, whether they are EI-eligible or not, would be able to receive the CERB to ensure they have timely access to the income support they need.

Canadians who are already receiving EI regular and sickness benefits as of today would continue to receive their benefits and should not apply to the CERB. If their EI benefits end before October 3, 2020, they could apply for the CERB once their EI benefits cease, if they are unable to return to work due to COVID-19. Canadians who have already applied for EI and whose application has not yet been processed would not need to reapply. Canadians who are eligible for EI regular and sickness benefits would still be able to access their normal EI benefits, if still unemployed, after the 16-week period covered by the CERB.

The government is working to get money into the pockets of Canadians as quickly as possible. The portal for accessing the CERB would be available in early April. EI eligible Canadians who have lost their job can continue to apply for EI here, as can Canadians applying for other EI benefits.

Canadians would begin to receive their CERB payments within 10 days of application. The CERB would be paid every four weeks and be available from March 15, 2020 until October 3, 2020.

This benefit would be one part of the government�s COVID-19 Economic Response Plan, to support Canadian workers and businesses and help stabilize the economy by helping Canadians pay for essentials like housing and groceries, and helping businesses pay their employees and bills during this unprecedented time of global uncertainty.

Rutibex has issued a correction as of 20:23 on Mar 25, 2020

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:14

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

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This taxable benefit would provide $2,000 a month for up to four months for workers who lose their income as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.

but if you were merely looking for work and couldnt find any because of the pandemic you're hosed. gonna go die now.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:39

GonadTheBallbarian: Jul 23, 2007

get the gently caress away from my beans

https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1242899751034662917

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:44

Slotducks: Oct 16, 2008; Nobody puts Phil in a corner.

Randalor posted:

What place is that so we can refuse to do business with them because they are putting me (read: the customer) in danger?

Tim hortons

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:47

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Randalor posted:

What place is that so we can refuse to do business with them because they are putting me (read: the customer) in danger?

oh, sorry, the image itself was a link

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...nfortunate.html

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:48

Noblesse Obliged: Apr 7, 2012

Slotducks posted:

Tim hortons

of course it is

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:52

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

Tim Horton's and Alberta, shocking.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:52

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Tim Hortons and the RCMP may be the two least deserving symbols of our nation.

At least Beavers create wetlands.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:54

Don Pigeon: Oct 29, 2005; Great pigeons are not born great. They grow great by eating lots of bread crumbs.

hey if you get sick from covid i expect you to use your 1 week of sick leave

wait no not like that

# ? Mar 25, 2020 20:55

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

eric ciaramella posted:

but if you were merely looking for work and couldnt find any because of the pandemic you're hosed. gonna go die now.

Have you had a garage sale in the last year? Sold something on kijiji or ebay? Congratulations you are self-employed and your online business is being devastated by the pandemic.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 21:04

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

EvilJoven posted:

What are the odds it'll go from means tested to just 'gently caress it here's $2000' as our society slowly falls apart over the next few weeks?

here's hoping because I don't think I qualify since I was laid off ages ago and have been trying to find work

# ? Mar 25, 2020 21:16

thehoodie: Feb 8, 2011; "Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"

BC finally announces an eviction moratorium. Took them long enough.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 21:25

Classon Ave. Robot: Oct 7, 2019; by Athanatos

Frosted Flake posted:

Tim Hortons and the RCMP may be the two least deserving symbols of our nation.

They seem pretty representative to me?

Tim Hortons is a lovely fast-food place owned by Americans that people consider good enough to go to every day and get their lovely coffee and junk food because they can't be bothered to do anything for themselves. Sounds pretty Canadian to me.

And what could be more Canadian than perpetrating genocide of the people that were here before Europeans arrived? poo poo, that was the official policy outright until like 1994.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 21:52

Randalor: Sep 4, 2011

Honest question, is it okay to order takeout/delivery?

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:12

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, so no.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:14

Another Bill: Sep 27, 2018; Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Randalor posted:

Honest question, is it okay to order takeout/delivery?

I'm haven't been for weeks. The way I figure it, allowing people to get takeout was throwing a bone to the restaurant industry. It's better economic policy than it is health policy. Otherwise the government would have put 100% of restaurants and bars out of business overnight.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:18

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Well, that and the people living out of hotels, condos, and apartments with no real kitchens.

They'd probably have some difficulty too

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:25

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Randalor posted:

Honest question, is it okay to order takeout/delivery?

No its not. You should be disinfecting anything you get from the store/delivered and ideally leaving it in the garage for several days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps

infernal machines posted:

Well, that and the people living out of hotels, condos, and apartments with no real kitchens.

They'd probably have some difficulty too

you would be surprised what you can do with an electric rice cooker

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:26

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

I probably wouldn't, because I too made one pot meals as a teen in a shithole apartment. That said, it's not an option for everybody.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:29

blatman: May 10, 2009; 14 inc dont mez

Randalor posted:

Honest question, is it okay to order takeout/delivery?

Delivery has been exposed to less people than grocery store beans even with the customer limit every store is enforcing and I can't imagine the corvids will live after being cooked, the packaging and the delivery driver are possible vectors of infection though. Still not as safe as dumping your beans in the quarantine bin next to your front door for 3 days after purchase but I'd argue the risk is fairly low by ordering two dozen mcmuffins and just washing your hands after handling the packaging

edit: just read all the posts that showed up while I was slowly hammering my face on the keyboard, looks like i'm a idiot don't do this

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:31

odiv: Jan 12, 2003

Rutibex posted:

No its not. You should be disinfecting anything you get from the store/delivered and ideally leaving it in the garage for several days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps

Ah yes, the garage we all have.

edit: yes, I realize you said ideally. I'm just on edge, sorry.

odiv has issued a correction as of 22:39 on Mar 25, 2020

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:33

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

~*lives in a 325 sq ft one room apt*~

i guess i'll just quarantine all the groceries i can't cook in the shower

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:35

blatman: May 10, 2009; 14 inc dont mez

just stuff everything in a corner with a piece of paper with "BEWARE CORVIDS" scrawled on it and sit huddled in the opposite corner until it's safe

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:37

Noblesse Obliged: Apr 7, 2012

I don't know why your making a big deal out of safely quarantining things in a 300 sqft apartment. I have no problem doing it and I own 30 of them!

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:40

CrcleSqreSanchz: Aug 21, 2002; I'm feeling something new...something...I'm happy??!!

Ooooh you don't have a quarantine room? Oh ho ho that is divine. You must have a quarantine box then and the grocery ability to keep things for three days before using them? Oh, you don't? Mmm Mmm how droll. How simply charming. Jeeves, look at these poor's with their "limited capacity". It is to laugh.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:40

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

I just got out a measuring tape, I have 260 square feet of living space. I emptied out a cupboard to use for quarantining groceries.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:47

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

look at oysters rockefeller over here with a cupbord. lording their storage space over us

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:49

Noblesse Obliged: Apr 7, 2012

People are calling me out of touch with normal people in cspam. I'll show them by busting out a tape measure and doing an iso layout of my living space with quarantine cupboard

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:50

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

you dont need to quarantine groceries lol what the gently caress is wrong with you guys

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:52

BGrifter: Mar 16, 2007; Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

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Rutibex posted:

They changed it. It no longer says "up to $900 every two weeks" it now just says "everyone gets $2000"
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2020/03/introduces-canada-emergency-response-benefit-to-help-workers-and-businesses.html

My head hurts trying to make sense of all the conflicting information out there.

I have no clue what happens to me as someone with 2+1/2 days of permanent hours that works on call shifts to get up to a full work week, but will no longer get any on call shifts due to well... everything�s closed. What about my many colleagues who only have one permanent day a week but work on call full time or close to it? Do we need to beg for layoffs to qualify for any federal assistance?

Why do the Libs always have to overcomplicate the hell out of these things? Stop with all this means testing bullshit and just cover everyone for a couple months.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:53

odiv: Jan 12, 2003

DariusLikewise posted:

you dont need to quarantine groceries lol what the gently caress is wrong with you guys

Because it's unnecessary or because it's annoying?

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:57

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

DariusLikewise posted:

you dont need to quarantine groceries lol what the gently caress is wrong with you guys

https://globalnews.ca/news/6723553/coronavirus-cruise-ship-surfaces-study/

quote:

Coronavirus RNA detected on cruise ship 17 days after passengers left: CDC report

Traces of the novel coronavirus were detected on a number of surfaces in cabins aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship up to 17 days after passengers disembarked, a new report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says.

The CDC report, released on Monday, said RNA from the virus was found �on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated� but before disinfection procedures were conducted.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:58

Noblesse Obliged: Apr 7, 2012

Stop posting that malarkey

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:58

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Rutibex posted:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6723553/coronavirus-cruise-ship-surfaces-study/

finding rna is not the same as finding live virus that can infect you

odiv posted:

Because it's unnecessary or because it's annoying?

its unnecessary, you could probably get it if someone who was infected coughed into their hand, touched something, that you immediately rubbed on then shoved the appendage into your mouth but contracting the virus from an infected grocery stockperson that touched a can the night before is impossible

DariusLikewise has issued a correction as of 23:02 on Mar 25, 2020

# ? Mar 25, 2020 22:59

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Rutibex posted:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6723553/coronavirus-cruise-ship-surfaces-study/

Starks posted:

Yeah detectable is not the same as transmissible. There haven't been any recorded cases of transmission via mail. You would especially think we would have seen this in SK or other high-testing places if it was a major concern. That being said, it's still better to be safe than sorry and wash your hands after opening mail or wiping it down with a disinfectant, but not cause for panic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/health/coronavirus-mail-packages.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmission.html

# ? Mar 25, 2020 23:00

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Yeah I'll listen to the CDC, the organization that was saying Cornoa couldn't transmit from human to human in December.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 23:04

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

I left work early today to go grocery shopping around 2pm. Extremely quiet but the entire toilet paper and paper towel area was completely cleaned out.

Why?

# ? Mar 25, 2020 23:05

Noblesse Obliged: Apr 7, 2012

Rutibex posted:

Yeah I'll listen to the CDC, the organization that was saying Cornoa couldn't transmit from human to human in December.

I'm gonna stuff you in a quarantine locker.

Just kidding I'm razzin ya bud stay safe.

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:15

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Rutibex posted:

Yeah I'll listen to the CDC, the organization that was saying Cornoa couldn't transmit from human to human in December.

this is literally in the article you posted

quote:

�We don�t know if it�s live virus or not, all that we know is that it�s genetic material,� he said.

Vaisman said that based on other studies, it�s �unlikely� that this RNA would be from live virus, but that this information was �not explicitly said� in the CDC report.

In an email to Global News, Jason Kindrachuk, an assistant professor and Canada Research Chair in emerging viruses at the University of Manitoba, said pieces of viral RNA can remain on surfaces for extended periods of time, but �this does not reflect infectious virus.�

�As we know, the longest a coronavirus can last on a surface is nine days in a laboratory � you can�t get it to last longer than that,� he said. �So this identification does not have any impact on transmission on the risk for humans, it just simply means that at one time or another, the virus happened to be on their ship.�

Vaisman said it is also important to note that the RNA was detected aboard the Diamond Princess before it was disinfected.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 23:07

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