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Former baker here too. Lmao if you've never made some jank rear end lookin bread, called it "hearty" or "rustic" and either sold it at a premium, or let your friends/family tell you how great and authentic it is.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:30 |
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Also, again, it says something that the internet can conjure up a dismissive nickname like Karen or BBQ Becky or whatever after a single incident and have it spread across the web on memes in days, but you get twitter and this thread arguing option after option for a male equivalent and it'll never be settled. Like nobody's out here calling racist men Christophers after the dude who called the cops on his black neighbor for daring to exist in the building while his son begged him not to. They just call him an rear end in a top hat. I mean I get it, you wanna call out the white privileged ladies who abuse that privilege and Karen is a very boomer-era name that not a lot of millenials or zoomers will have so it's a fairly "safe" target to become the placeholder for annoying entitled customers but, the internet being what it is, it's just a matter of time before it just becomes another term for "difficult woman," like we needed more of that. It doesn't mean everyone who uses it is a misogynist, but it is one of those internet things.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:36 |
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I always figured it was Karen because of Karen from Will and Grace who is all of those stereotypes. Even Dane Cook chose Karen as the name of that friend no one likes (I know but it's the second oldest media I know that used Karen dismissively). This can't be this new.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:38 |
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The solution is mandatory genderfluid injections (aka vaccines)
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:40 |
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BallisticClipboard posted:This can't be this new. It's not new, it's just had a resurgence through memes.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:41 |
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https://twitter.com/AITA_reddit/status/1247223066767302663
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hyperhazard posted:"Removable eyelids." Yeah, for changing the expressions/cleaning purposes. Why you'd take the eyebrows off for cleaning idk. It's not that weird for a costume.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:50 |
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All eyelids are removable if you think about it.
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Huntersoninski posted:Like nobody's out here calling racist men Christophers after the dude who called the cops on his black neighbor for daring to exist in the building while his son begged him not to. They just call him an rear end in a top hat. You're forgetting 'Kyle' is a thing (douche-bags fueled only by anger and Monster, known for punching holes in the wall). It may not be the male equivalent of Karen, but it's still a gendered name used as an insult.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:54 |
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Huntersoninski posted:Also, again, it says something that the internet can conjure up a dismissive nickname like Karen or BBQ Becky or whatever after a single incident and have it spread across the web on memes in days, but you get twitter and this thread arguing option after option for a male equivalent and it'll never be settled. Like nobody's out here calling racist men Christophers after the dude who called the cops on his black neighbor for daring to exist in the building while his son begged him not to. They just call him an rear end in a top hat. This doesn’t really make sense unless you think Karen or Becky are like more feminine than other names? I don’t know this is a stretch
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:58 |
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Eh! Frank posted:You're forgetting 'Kyle' is a thing (douche-bags fueled only by anger and Monster, known for punching holes in the wall). It may not be the male equivalent of Karen, but it's still a gendered name used as an insult. I hear Karen a lot but I have never heard Kyle in this context.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 19:58 |
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Abolish cis people and the stereotypes will explode into a rainbow of uncountably infinite genders They/them people gender like this, Zie/zir people gender like this
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:01 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:This doesn’t really make sense unless you think Karen or Becky are like more feminine than other names? I don’t know this is a stretch They're women's names. That's my point. The internet can get together and pick a name and go with it when it's a woman's name. When it's trying to do the same for men, it generally can't settle in one unless it's incels who do that for everything or apparently Kyle, which I've never heard of till now but I'm not super plugged in to the meme scene. Again, I'm not saying anyone who uses these slang names is a bad person, I get it. Karen is a Boomer name and so the younger folks making these jokes can relate it to a teacher/parent/aunt/whatever they knew as a kid and conjure an image of a whiny, entitled customer. but just look at this thread, nobody can settle on a male version and one poster even felt sorry for men who share a name irl with the hypothetical meme.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:11 |
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I know two Kyles and neither fit that stereotype.
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Huntersoninski posted:They're women's names. That's my point. The internet can get together and pick a name and go with it when it's a woman's name. When it's trying to do the same for men, it generally can't settle in one unless it's incels who do that for everything or apparently Kyle, which I've never heard of till now but I'm not super plugged in to the meme scene. You didn’t really clarify your point. If the issue is they are women’s names then being laser focused on a particular name doesn’t matter in the slightest unless you believe Karen is somehow feminine than other names Like I said a stretch
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:16 |
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I'm not saying Karen is a more feminine name. I'm saying that people had a really easy time agreeing on how to stereotype specific kind of women and nobody needed a Twitter poll to agree on it. It's not the name. It's the fact that, culturally, it's way easier for folks to make female stereotypes like these into long lived memes than male ones. E: like, use the Karen slang if you really want to, I'm not trying to stop you
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:19 |
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Know Your Meme implies that this use of Karen has roots in Mean Girls, with the line "Oh my god, Karen, you can't just ask someone why they're white." Anecdotally, I noticed a lot of "Karens" and "Beckys" originated from Black Twitter, and a lot of that probably stuck with the internet population at large. There probably hasn't been a need to have a "male version" of it, because the equivalent probably boils down to "gamer," except replace "speaking to the manager" with "writing an angry editorial about how Jill Valentine wears short shorts instead of a skirt now."
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:27 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I know two Kyles and neither fit that stereotype. I heard the Trashfuture Podcast (which is good and funny) use the more colorful "guy from Nebraska named Kevin", and it was very funny because I know a guy from Nebraska named Kevin and he is a sweet and anxious nerdy fella with a dece income working at a non-profit who would only put a hole in a wall because a cat is stuck in there
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:30 |
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also I have experienced the "male Karen" as a bartender; it is the boomer guy who does not directly confront, or ask to see the manager, but loudly and passively says to nobody and everybody, "this is the worst martini I've ever had" this guy In thinking of in particular looked like a Chet
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:33 |
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Karen originated as an AAVE term and it applied to a specific type of privileged white lady. Internet people saw it on twitter or wherever and some of those people people use it in a lovely way. White people misappropriate AAVE terms they see on the internet all the time (see: bougie as a prime example.) Karen is in no way a slur, but it has been used misogynistically by people on the internet. That doesn’t mean everyone saying it is using it that way, but it does give centrists cover to whine about it. And it’s a reason to consider how you’re using the word before using it, or how whoever you’re reading is using the word before you retweet/etc. it.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:34 |
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Huntersoninski posted:It's the fact that, culturally, it's way easier for folks to make female stereotypes like these into long lived memes than male ones. Napolean, Judas, Pilate, etc. say: "Sup?"
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:34 |
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Get to know more Kyles then because the internet is already on board with the Kyle meme https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/kyle
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:Napolean, Judas, Pilate, etc. say: "Sup?" What's interesting is those are all real people (I mean Judas maybe not but still). Real men who do real notable things have their names used like that all the time, you're right. But like there was no original Becky who was such a notorious rear end in a top hat that her legend spread across the world and is written in history books. I'd say that's a different kind of slang than the one that Twitter poll is about. But I wasn't specific, you're right. Captain Monkey posted:Karen is in no way a slur, but it has been used misogynistically by people on the internet. That doesn’t mean everyone saying it is using it that way, but it does give centrists cover to whine about it. And it’s a reason to consider how you’re using the word before using it, or how whoever you’re reading is using the word before you retweet/etc. it. That's well put, thanks for this. Rat Patrol has a new favorite as of 20:46 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:Napolean, Judas, Pilate, etc. say: "Sup?"
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:46 |
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Ok boomer: cultural appropriation from zoomers?
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:47 |
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this is some cringey meme meta discussion
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 20:50 |
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hawowanlawow posted:this is some cringey meme meta discussion Fairly sure I found The Idiots On Social Media on this page. (myself included because here I am adding to the idiocy)
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https://twitter.com/christianizcool/status/1230944743233900544?s=21
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Huntersoninski posted:What's interesting is those are all real people (I mean Judas maybe not but still). Real men who do real notable things have their names used like that all the time, you're right. But like there was no original Becky who was such a notorious rear end in a top hat that her legend spread across the world and is written in history books. I'd say that's a different kind of slang than the one that Twitter poll is about. But I wasn't specific, you're right. Mary Magdalene
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Huntersoninski posted:I'm not saying Karen is a more feminine name. I'm saying that people had a really easy time agreeing on how to stereotype specific kind of women and nobody needed a Twitter poll to agree on it. It's not the name. It's the fact that, culturally, it's way easier for folks to make female stereotypes like these into long lived memes than male ones. I know your not that’s my point your argument is flailing without any seeming ability to form a coherent point. It’s just the negative woke stereotype as far as I can see
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CharlestheHammer posted:I know your not that’s my point your argument is flailing without any seeming ability to form a coherent point. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel_Society
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 21:26 |
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Nimrod's an amusing example because the term that caught on was used ironically. Bugs Bunny was making fun of Elmer Fudd by comparing him to Nimrod because Nimrod was known to be a great hunter, but because most kids only knew the term from the cartoon, they just took it as a word for idiot due to not having the historical/biblical context and it stuck as that. The only pop cultural use of the name that is actually accurate and non-ironic is Nimrod the Sentinel from the X-men series, the ultimate sentinel and ultimate mutant hunter.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 21:27 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I know your not that’s my point your argument is flailing without any seeming ability to form a coherent point. I think their argument is that the Karen meme is ultimately about a white person abusing privilege. We created a meme that attacks white women for that lovely behavior, but white men, who have even more privilege, and engage in this lovely behavior even more often, don't have an equivalent meme pointing that out. The misogyny is how quickly and easily women were attacked when men engage in the same behavior at an even greater level.
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BioEnchanted posted:Nimrod's an amusing example because the term that caught on was used ironically. Bugs Bunny was making fun of Elmer Fudd by comparing him to Nimrod because Nimrod was known to be a great hunter, but because most kids only knew the term from the cartoon, they just took it as a word for idiot due to not having the historical/biblical context and it stuck as that. It's also a pretty common contemporary Hebrew name.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 21:32 |
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Spoiler: He doesn't have kids
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 21:40 |
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Karen became normalized when a whole bunch of fragile white women kept getting caught on camera calling the cops on black people for existing. Mocking ignorant racists is good. Making it about misogyny completely misses the point. The reason why it's Karen and not Kyle is because men usually don't call the cops to do their dirty work, they just straight up try to kill them themselves. That's not abusing privilege, that's just straight up being a murderous violent rear end in a top hat.
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# ? Apr 6, 2020 21:44 |
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So I think I may be an idiot on social media. I've got a friend who gets very excited about ideas sometimes and usually needs calming down. Last week, he sent me a message saying he needed to contact the press to tell them his idea, and asked me to share his video. The idea is relatively simple, use bags from home instead of supermarket baskets/trolleys to avoid contamination. I happily agreed to put it on Facebook for him. Yesterday, he sent me another video. And asked me to share it with all of my 33 followers on twitter. So I did. I'm not sure why I'm uploading videos of an old nearly naked man online but there you go. Here's a still from the video.
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Dienes posted:I think their argument is that the Karen meme is ultimately about a white person abusing privilege. We created a meme that attacks white women for that lovely behavior, but white men, who have even more privilege, and engage in this lovely behavior even more often, don't have an equivalent meme pointing that out. The misogyny is how quickly and easily women were attacked when men engage in the same behavior at an even greater level. I mean the equivalent would be cletus but they aren’t really comparable because the anger ultimately doesn’t manifest the same way in women and men. People make fun of rednecks though they are more violent in nature which I guess throws people off but it’s fundamentally the same idea
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sugar mouse posted:So I think I may be an idiot on social media. I've got a friend who gets very excited about ideas sometimes and usually needs calming down. Last week, he sent me a message saying he needed to contact the press to tell them his idea, and asked me to share his video. The idea is relatively simple, use bags from home instead of supermarket baskets/trolleys to avoid contamination. I happily agreed to put it on Facebook for him. Isn't it generally recommended to use the plastic bags from the store because you can just throw them away and sterilize all the food individually? Cloth bags are hard to sterilize, so you're just bringing any contamination into your house.
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All the nearby grocery stores are forbidding people to bring their own bags. It protects the grocery baggers.
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