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the reason people are reacting like that is because we've been in 'heroes just barged in and VA are scrambling' mode for months
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Eraserhead can cancel Shigaraki's power, and the high ends are getting trashed too, so tbh I think the heroes are just going to win this one all around.
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Apr 12, 2020 23:45
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Badactura posted:Eraserhead can cancel Shigaraki's power, and the high ends are getting trashed too, so tbh I think the heroes are just going to win this one all around. This makes no sense from a narrative perspective. The heroes have been winning this whole arc. If the heroes have an unqualified victory, then this was all building up to nothing.
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Apr 12, 2020 23:47
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Arist posted:I think part of it's definitely that reusing the same cliffhanger in consecutive chapters kind of lays bare that we're all still waiting for the other shoe to drop, and makes it feel like nothing's really happening. As it stands this chapter seems to exist primarily so Mirko doesn't die. Reusing cliffhangers blows for sure. It wasn't too long ago where we had like 3 consecutive chapters of "Kurogiri is Shirakumo and Eraser is sad" and that was boring and terrible.
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Apr 12, 2020 23:48
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This arc is pretty solid except some of the action is a little hard to follow--like I'm not sure what happened at the end of the chapter last week.
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Apr 12, 2020 23:55
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Considering how action heavy this current arc is I imagine it’ll probably flow a lot better in the anime than it currently does in the manga. Still good though.
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Badactura posted:Eraserhead can cancel Shigaraki's power, and the high ends are getting trashed too, so tbh I think the heroes are just going to win this one all around. One of the High Ends already managed to get around Eraserhead's quirk and do enough damage to let another one drag Mirko and Endeavor away from Shigaraki. His quirk is strong, but it's been proven time and time again to not be a guaranteed win.
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Apr 13, 2020 00:10
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I'm surprised people aren't feeling this arc. Like yeah action isn't the comic's strong suit but the chapters we got on Twice and Hawks were some of the best stuff MHA's had in ages and we've only just switched away from that.
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Apr 13, 2020 01:17
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I'm surprised people aren't feeling this arc. Like yeah action isn't the comic's strong suit but the chapters we got on Twice and Hawks were some of the best stuff MHA's had in ages and we've only just switched away from that. the twice and hawks stuff reminded me that MHA can be a lot better than it's been lately, so it felt jarring to go back to finishing a chapter and going 'oh, that's it?'
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Apr 13, 2020 01:27
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we'll see how everything here shakes out but right now it's looking like the heroes' advantage is going to go poof the moment shigaraki wakes up, and that's been sort of a recurring problem with this manga in general - when two groups of characters go at it, there's seldom a believable power struggle between them, just a one-sided rout that will maybe about-face if horikoshi flips the "you lose" switch sometimes this is neat to see anyway (bakugo's Class B steamrolling comes to mind) but this battle's been built up for months and we've been getting week after week of the heroes still doing a saucy two-step all over the villains' faces while horikoshi's fingers creep ever closer to that switch
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Apr 13, 2020 01:33
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Mr. Fowl posted:This arc is pretty solid except some of the action is a little hard to follow--like I'm not sure what happened at the end of the chapter last week. Mirko realized the High-Ends are getting fully operational and she couldn't deal damage to them anymore, so she switched to "The mission above all" mode (similar to Hawks, actually), and sprinted off. Only one High-End managed to keep up with her, and skewered her just as she was about to boot Shigaraki's capsule into the void dimension. Right as that's happening, a fireblast builds up behind the High-End and Endeavor dunks its head into the ground, pulling the skewers out of her legs and giving her time to finish the kick on the capsule. This week, we got a brief rewind, showing how Endeavor's team caught up with Mirko and how the High-Ends were able to very quickly analyze the reinforcements and recognize that Eraser was the one locking them down. With the help of Acid Lady, Bone Tentacles was able to push off Endeavor briefly and re-skewer Mirko, pull her off the capsule (turning her kick into a glancing blow), and flung her into Endeavor, sending the two of them hurtling backwards into Dr. Garaki's main office. Right now, Dr. Garaki is panicking because the capsule is critically damaged, while everyone is in the other room and have just heard Mirko warn them that they have to go shut it down before Shigaraki wakes up. In all likelihood the next thing Dr. Garaki does is pull Shigaraki out of stasis early to avoid him dying outright -- 75% Shigaraki is better than -1% Shigaraki -- right as Endeavor, Eraser, and the other heroes (sans Mirko) burst into the back office.
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I've been really enjoying this arc. This chapter was kind of weak, and it's a bummer that it's the one right before an unexpected break, but if it means Mirko won't die when Shigaraki wakes up then it's worth it.
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Brother Entropy posted:the twice and hawks stuff reminded me that MHA can be a lot better than it's been lately, so it felt jarring to go back to finishing a chapter and going 'oh, that's it?' Oxxidation posted:sometimes this is neat to see anyway (bakugo's Class B steamrolling comes to mind) but this battle's been built up for months and we've been getting week after week of the heroes still doing a saucy two-step all over the villains' faces while horikoshi's fingers creep ever closer to that switch 
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Apr 13, 2020 04:24
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I feel like the heroes aren't steamrolling the villains as much as people are making it out to be. Like things are going well at the mansion raid, but Dabi managed to severely injured Hawks and at least one Twice clone was able to last long enough to save Toga and Compress from getting captured. At the hospital, the nomu army has been slowing the heroes down considerably, leaving Mirko to face off against the High Ends alone. She managed to kill one half-awakened nomu at the cost of her arm, but once the rest were fully awakened, she couldn't touch them. Once she realized this, she went for a kamikaze attack on Shigaraki that got her torn up and only managing to damage his tube. Even with the arrival of Endeavor, Eraserhead, and the rest, the High Ends have successfully managed to maneuver around Eraserhead's quirk and push the heroes back from the doctor and Shigaraki. The heroes have the advantage, but they haven't been untouchable in this.
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Apr 13, 2020 04:44
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This manga is just further and further delays until we finally get to that sweet sweet fireworks factory.
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Shigaraki not getting time to go 100% is likely to be what even leaves hope for the UA Kids after this arc.
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Shiggy goes 100% but then Eri rewinds him to 50%, a feat that expends all her horn juice for another 50 chapters.
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Please don't call it horn juice.
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oh jay posted:Shiggy goes 100% but then Eri rewinds him to 50%, a feat that expends all her horn juice for another 50 chapters. The series ends with Eri rewinding Shigaraki into a quirkless child with no memories. Deku, having also lost his quirk at this point, decides to raise little Tenko as his own and becomes the greatest hero of all: a father.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Please don't call it horn juice. Horn juice is what you call the munchkin. Her father is called Spiral Energy.
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I was just thinking on it: Do you think Toga could turn into Twice and use his quirk here? Is there any rule to her quirk about copying people posthumously? Presuming she recently drank their blood or keeps some handy. e: I guess she might not know all the clone measurements and stuff like Twice did. Hmm. Solanumai fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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RareAcumen posted:Horn juice is what you call the munchkin. Her father is called Spiral Energy. Waiting for someone who's quirk is manifesting gigantic drills into a matryoshka doll of drill based robots.
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Apr 13, 2020 06:12
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Rhonne posted:The series ends with Eri rewinding Shigaraki into a quirkless child with no memories. Deku, having also lost his quirk at this point, decides to raise little Tenko as his own and becomes the greatest hero of all: a father.  I would actually be okay with this ending.
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drat, people, it's the tenth chapter of the arc. Even in big action set pieces, it's okay to let things breathe slightly.
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Shere posted:I was just thinking on it: Do you think Toga could turn into Twice and use his quirk here? This is actually my prediction for how it's going to turn-around for the villains. Shigaraki is going to wake-up and Gigantomacia is going to go berserk, but Toga getting to pull off a Sad Girls Parade as well after finding Twices body and draining it would be sick as hell. It would also be fantastic character development for her to have to do that for a fallen friend instead of out of Or maybe we're going to get swerved hardcore, all the villains get captured and we finally get the Tartarus break-out. Doctor_Fruitbat posted:drat, people, it's the tenth chapter of the arc. Even in big action set pieces, it's okay to let things breathe slightly. Ikr, so frickin impatient.
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Im definitely being impatient, which mostly comes from normally reading manga in big chunks rather then following week to week. Idk, but I still think the heroes will win. People are saying it wouldn't make sense, and would ruin the narrative build-up, but that's already been happening. Hirokoshi has shown a lot of reluctance to kill his darlings, case in point being Mirko, the character who should have died this chapter. Same with Hawks: Dabi killing Hawks after Hawks killing Twice would have both made sense and raised the stakes. Instead both characters get last minute rescues. Same with Twice dying. We get a story about this dude, and we get asked to invest in his characters life and his cool power upgrade and he's dead without doing anything the next arc he has a major role in. To me that's a major waste of a narrative build-up, and I can see it happening with the villain stuff in general when Hirokoshi is taking pains to make sure no cool hero has been in danger for more then a chapter cliff hanger. It even happened in miniature with liberation electroman. He gets a panel as a tough liberation fighter and then goes down immediately.
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We haven't even seen Deku's group since this all started. They'll probably be the ones who will have to deal with things once poo poo goes sideways.
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Badactura posted:Im definitely being impatient, which mostly comes from normally reading manga in big chunks rather then following week to week. I was thinking about this, how was it that Dabi's flames didn't charr Hawks? Was Dabi playing with his food in that case and he's able to control the temperature of the flames?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Mirko realized the High-Ends are getting fully operational and she couldn't deal damage to them anymore, so she switched to "The mission above all" mode (similar to Hawks, actually), and sprinted off. Only one High-End managed to keep up with her, and skewered her just as she was about to boot Shigaraki's capsule into the void dimension. Right as that's happening, a fireblast builds up behind the High-End and Endeavor dunks its head into the ground, pulling the skewers out of her legs and giving her time to finish the kick on the capsule. No, I meant last week. I was a little vague on what was going on with the cuts between Hawks and Tokoyami at the end.
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Wouldn't be My Hero Academia if the action scenes weren't borderline indecipherable and framed like garbage.
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JackDarko posted:I was thinking about this, how was it that Dabi's flames didn't charr Hawks? Was Dabi playing with his food in that case and he's able to control the temperature of the flames? I mean, the flames scarred his face and destroyed most of his feathers. I agree that Hawks deserves much much worse but Dabi's attacks didn't bounce off or anything.
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JackDarko posted:I was thinking about this, how was it that Dabi's flames didn't charr Hawks? Was Dabi playing with his food in that case and he's able to control the temperature of the flames? It doesn't make sense outside of author fiat to me.
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People are pretty resistant to fire in this world. Deku's been blasted by Shoto and Dabi's fire in the past and it didn't leave much lasting damage compared to the stuff he's done to himself.
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Rhonne posted:People are pretty resistant to fire in this world. Deku's been blasted by Shoto and Dabi's fire in the past and it didn't leave much lasting damage compared to the stuff he's done to himself. Bakugo has also blasted people directly in the face with nitroglycerin explosions a whole lot and none of them ever get permanently burned. The general damage level of fire or fire adjacent powers in MHA is like a zillion times lower than it would be in the real world to allow those powers to be used in fights, because in a more realistic world having the power to generate fire/explosions at a whim would mean you could kill or permanently maim people with no effort with glancing blows.
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Apr 13, 2020 20:20
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Dabi won't kill Hawks. Bakugo will for hurting Best Jeanist.
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A Bug posted:Dabi won't kill Hawks. Bakugo will for hurting Best Jeanist. Allegedly
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Kanos posted:Bakugo has also blasted people directly in the face with nitroglycerin explosions a whole lot and none of them ever get permanently burned. The general damage level of fire or fire adjacent powers in MHA is like a zillion times lower than it would be in the real world to allow those powers to be used in fights, because in a more realistic world having the power to generate fire/explosions at a whim would mean you could kill or permanently maim people with no effort with glancing blows. Once again, as I've brought up before during the Mushroom choke scene, MHA's tolerance on violence is a constantly shifting target and only ever matters if the story stops and tells you to care about it in some way. Trying to puzzle it out will lead down to madness of accusing the kids of trying to openly murder each other while teachers look on nodding.
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Kanos posted:Bakugo has also blasted people directly in the face with nitroglycerin explosions a whole lot and none of them ever get permanently burned. The general damage level of fire or fire adjacent powers in MHA is like a zillion times lower than it would be in the real world to allow those powers to be used in fights, because in a more realistic world having the power to generate fire/explosions at a whim would mean you could kill or permanently maim people with no effort with glancing blows. Isn't fire like that in basically every manga not named Fullmetal Alchemist?
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oh jay posted:Allegedly Fair enough. Bakugo will allegedly kill Hawks. But jokes aside, I hope Best Jeanist is still alive.
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