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icr hasn't done anything yet but has been around to comment on stuff, i will assign them two(2) scumbo points for this. three more and he can redeem them at the prize counter for a free lunch. i'm thinkin' about hal. his frustration feels genuine, but that could really go either way at this point. im kind of weirded out by the last couple interactions we have bc i don't really understand why a townie would make them. like, comment on the tracker thing, don't just ask me to clarify my point right? i feel like throwing out questions like that is a good way to generate content as scum. i feel kinda bad but i think i'm comfortable leaving my vote on hal for now.
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Somberbrero posted:Normally a question like that has more of a point is all! I don't know what more you want me to say besides 'bleh it sucks! bleh!' If you want me to vote murmur here, i need a little more spice on that meatball. Well there isn't much yet and I don't think it's more compelling than vimes, just think she's someone to keep an eye on.
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Somberbrero posted:icr hasn't done anything yet but has been around to comment on stuff, i will assign them two(2) scumbo points for this. three more and he can redeem them at the prize counter for a free lunch. I did comment on it right after, but it's such a meh claim that there isn't much to say about it. Which is exactly why I asked you because you phrased it as if something about the claim was inherently scummy and I wanted you to explain that better.
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Apr 15, 2020 01:12
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my take was very similar to somberbrero's, that it was a claim that doesn't really ring as Definitely TownHal Incandenza posted:I guess it's just the way you worded it, like the claim itself didn't sound townie to you because of something he said but i can see how hal gets to this point
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Hal Incandenza posted:How do you feel about MMT now that she posted more? I didn't really like the GK case, it felt very generic like a mafia case template with some buzzwords thrown in and names filled into the blanks something about this post bugs me, i think it's the "posted more" in reaction to a single post
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Apr 15, 2020 01:22
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Captain Foo posted:something about this post bugs me, i think it's the "posted more" in reaction to a single post Well the original callout on her (which admittedly was by KB and not somber) was when she had only posted once. She did post a few other things this morning before the GK case later today.
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Apr 15, 2020 01:46
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Murmur Twin posted:##vote GK ah, i was reading it more as an immediate reaction to this post
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Captain Foo posted:ah, i was reading it more as an immediate reaction to this post Well that IS what called my attention to it, but she had also made a pretty meh grandi case earlier and tossed some driveby suspicion on me to add on to the earlier stuff from KB/somber that was pretty weak coming after the original callout by KB Really I should be pressing KB more on this since he didn't mention her again today even though she had more content and specifically defended him but somber was around so that's why I asked him.
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Apr 15, 2020 02:23
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Somberbrero posted:I'm really curious what you mean by this Bif. I've definitely been goofing off more than usual because i'm having fun, but I don't understand the point you're making re: sizzle. Can you provide some examples and connect them to your point? The beans and rice post was an example. Just how you're getting in a lot of quirky tone in a lot of your posts that seems to stand out more than your content itself at times. Having a fun tone to your posts doesn't hurt on its own which is why I only had super vague feelings about it at first, but when you bothered to say Steak was all about the sizzle I thought it was funny cause it summed you up way better.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:08
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Ok that was my like 10 minutes of lunch break just for that farewell
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Apr 15, 2020 03:11
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Bifauxnen posted:The beans and rice post was an example. Just how you're getting in a lot of quirky tone in a lot of your posts that seems to stand out more than your content itself at times. Thank you I am very funny and I'm sorry that I'm so clever and nice that it's distracting from my good casework 😊
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Apr 15, 2020 03:17
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WRT Vime's claim. Doesn't everyone have a shine power? Tracker is not indicative of alignment at all? If they are scum, they can just track a person that isn't going to do the kill, report the results and ride town cred because town love claimed power roles, whether or not they are indicative of alignment at all.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:21
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I like Murmur's case on GK. I like it less than the SSV case, but GK rockets up my scumspects. Hal slips to 3, foo is 4.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:23
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Grandicap posted:WRT Vime's claim. Doesn't everyone have a shine power? Tracker is not indicative of alignment at all? If they are scum, they can just track a person that isn't going to do the kill, report the results and ride town cred because town love claimed power roles, whether or not they are indicative of alignment at all. i mean, do you really think it's impossible that we dunk ssv tomorrow?
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Apr 15, 2020 03:38
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Somberbrero posted:i mean, do you really think it's impossible that we dunk ssv tomorrow? Of course not, but I historically see town shy away from lunching claimed powerroles. Whether or not the claim has any bearing on their alignment. So it isn't impossible, and if there is a better target, point me at them, but that claim is not dissuading me in the slightest.
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Apr 15, 2020 03:47
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Hal Incandenza posted:Well that IS what called my attention to it, but she had also made a pretty meh grandi case earlier and tossed some driveby suspicion on me to add on to the earlier stuff from KB/somber that was pretty weak coming after the original callout by KB I'm still assessing. She hasn't sold me yet. I'd rather not go after her if I don't have to since we sometimes fight in mafia games in an unproductive way. When she makes posts, they are very MMT town seeming, but there is something I can't put my finger on that is throwing me off. It might be how they keep jumping around with no update on her previous opinions/reads? Like she continues to try to find the thing that people will jump onto?
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Apr 15, 2020 03:56
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I'm not sure I'm fully following the GK case.Murmur Twin posted:He doesn't read like someone who doesn't know Grandi's alignment. He claims to have a town read there (why?), and then when he points out something scummy, he frames it as "town but bad" without making a case. Like, can you clarify here? Are you saying GK has a town read of Grandi that is unjustified? Can you quote where that is happening? I just spent some time going through his posts to try and see where this part is coming from and I just am not seeing it. If I had to give you GK's alignment calls based on the last few posts he made, this is what it looks like to me: He thinks SSV is scum. He is lean scum on Steak(worried that his recent posts are coming from too town a perspective to be scum like he thought originally, but not fully convinced). He is lean scum on Hal. He is lean scum on Foo. He is starting to lean scum on Grandi, where he was maybe null before. Like I'm assuming, your quotes are supposed to be where it is happening, but I'm seeing something vastly different then you are, there. I can go through those posts with my own translation if you think it will be helpful.
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I don't want to undercut your questioning of MMT, but the way I read the case was that GK thought my steak stuff wasn't adding to scum hunting and was largely worthless. And then said I was bad town for it. The part about me being town was a baseline for GK. The only way to come at it from that angle was that GK knew my alignment because he is a scum. George Kansas posted:Yeah I agree with this and I had largely the same reaction to that post that you did. I find the suspicion of you re: your reaction to steak's post weird! Though I'm not sure I find it scummy. George Kansas posted:he has made it clear he doesn't think steak is scum, which i think is very funny. i wasn't suspicious of grandi before but i don't think it's very town mindset to make such detailed effortposts about someone you don't think is scum George Kansas posted:page 73 of my treatise on why a player whomst i believe to be town, is bad But no followup on actual suspicion of me for my not very town mindset. I can see it.
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Grandicap posted:I don't want to undercut your questioning of MMT, but the way I read the case was that GK thought my steak stuff wasn't adding to scum hunting and was largely worthless. And then said I was bad town for it. No it's fine, you also agreed with the case, so I was also curious if this post would get you to comment. Won't bother requoting since your post is still right there. My interpretation of the first post you quoted: "I agreed with Grandi's initial reaction to Steak's post and found the reactions to Grandi's reaction weird, but not necessarily scummy" -- There is no alignment call here that I can see. If anything, it is Null, since GK doesn't think people going after Grandi for it are scummy. second post you quoted: "Grandi has made it very clear he thinks Steak is town. This has led me to lean a bit scum on Grandi, since what town would spend this much effort calling out bad town?" -- Alignment call here is Grandi, lean scum. Third post you quoted: "I'm now making fun of Grandi, to emphasize my point. This is what Grandi would say." -- Alignment call here is still Grandi, lean scum. --- So we partly seem to agree on this read. In that we both think GK thinks you were bad for this. But where do you get that he thinks you are bad TOWN?
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I guess it's the "not very town" mindset part. That's as negative as he gets. Initial post is "I'm not sure I find it scummy". He is not calling me not town. It feels like he is giving me a wristslap for engaging in not town behavior, rather than not being town.
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The amount of effort posting itt sweet jesusMurmur Twin posted:Save it for endgame imo Are you scum claiming here mmt? Trust that I haven't forgotten this game. Also remember that I had your number in NOLA shine Captain Foo posted:i forgot MT was in this game entirely lmao Baaaad post I like the SSV case but his claim gives me pause. Ssv why did you claim with so much time left Some  hot takesFoo is pinging me for scum The king b and Hal exchange feels off to me. I think one of them is scum I feel confident bif is town That's it atm, but hell I'm here now and caught up ama
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Grandicap posted:I guess it's the "not very town" mindset part. That's as negative as he gets. Initial post is "I'm not sure I find it scummy". Yeah, you know what, if the case is that GK is being very cautious about making it explicit what he thinks your actual alignment is, that is a case I could get behind. I read it as him throwing shade your way, but it was very light. I'm curious what he has to say to all this.
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Moatillata posted:The king b and Hal exchange feels off to me. I think one of them is scum You are correct! It's Hal! Moatillata posted:Also let me throw a vote down for the record Sell me on this. Was it just that one post?
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King Burgundy posted:You are correct! It's Hal! More or less. Also he just parked his vote on me feels like he's burying it Additionally his posting just reads like sideline sniping to me Not a whole that there tbh
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Apr 15, 2020 04:53
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I liked the KB Hal convo on both fronts, made me feel better about both actually.
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Apr 15, 2020 04:53
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Grandicap posted:I liked the KB Hal convo on both fronts, made me feel better about both actually. Well I'm happy for you then
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Apr 15, 2020 04:55
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Moatillata posted:Well I'm happy for you then I'm happy that you're happy Moat. Makes me happy.
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Moatillata posted:The amount of effort posting itt sweet jesus Not a fan of throwing out takes without giving actual reasoning for doing so, just makes you look like you have opinions without any actual work or reading. Also, acting all surprised about me claiming seems checks notes for the new meta "performative" seeing as it's pretty obvious that I claimed because I'm 4/7 of the way to a hang.
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Apr 15, 2020 04:58
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SirSamVimes posted:Not a fan of throwing out takes without giving actual reasoning for doing so, just makes you look like you have opinions without any actual work or reading. With 19hrs left in the game my friend it's d1 poo poo swings back and forth like crazy we all know this don't act like I'm being performative that's just disingenuous of you
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Apr 15, 2020 05:00
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I agree with Vimes here. It might have been like 1 vote too early for a claim, but it wasn't absurd. The problem is that the claim is not indicative of alignment. But the action of claiming made a whole lotta sense.
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Apr 15, 2020 05:00
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Actual from RIGHT NOW is 19hrs you had even more time
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Especially with the lights out rules, it incentivizes lunching early to get another one in.
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Apr 15, 2020 05:01
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actually I had until three more people voted me, which could be a lot less than 19 hours very easily
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Apr 15, 2020 05:01
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SirSamVimes posted:actually I had until three more people voted me, which could be a lot less than 19 hours very easily Lol you have no idea ##force the SSV issue
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Apr 15, 2020 05:09
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Moatillata posted:Lol you have no idea Pardon?
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 It all happens so fast, with unheard voices lending themselves to the already-building hue and cry. But the deed is done, and one of the nooses is filled. Three more await.  SirSamVimes has been executed! Day 4 continues. Votes have been reset. Deadline is 7 PM EDT, Thursday 16-APR. [~42 hours]  The execution method is LIMITED LIGHTS OUT. You may execute up to
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 Votecount for Day 4  Not Voting (12): Bifauxnen, Captain Foo, George Kansas, Grandicap, Hal Incandenza, Iron Chef Ramen, King Burgundy, merk, Moatillata, Mr. Steak, Murmur Twin, Somberbrero  With 12 people still alive, it takes 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 16th, 2020 at 7 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 18 hours.
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