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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Phy posted:

I remember that there had been so many threads about goons with horrible rear end boils that there was a concept of an "annual pilonidal cyst thread" but I don't remember what the last one I actually saw was

There was just an update in the Anonymous Confessions thread from one of the original rear end boil goons. It was, you guessed it, another rear end boil story they shared.

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Saucer Crab
Apr 3, 2009




Among the many goofy things going on in Age of Wushu before it all fell apart was that goons quickly found out that if you paid for a premium sub directly your credit card would get compromised, so Subway gift cards became a commodity because they were the most convenient safe way to pay for a game sub.

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

HiroProtagonist posted:

I was a part of a lot of the STO goon antics which started in early 2011 but ran between thereabouts and I guess 2015.

Honestly, most of the humor value revolved around poking people who had an enormous head on their shoulders while rolling around the social areas with a character they were "RPing" which was always some flavor of child sexual abuse, sex slavery, or outright porn just written out there and then.

It was worth it, and one of the occasions I remember that I personally participated in involved a carefully orchestrated charade, via someone's ingame ready room, to convince someone that all they had to do to join Shut Up Wesley (the now defunct goon fleet, but the other main ones still exist) was to pay ten bucks to join SA and post an intro thread in either FYAD or GBS. I am pretty sure it's the latter and I'm 100% sure the thread still exists somewhere. It played out exactly as you would expect.

Not knowing any of these games, it was sort of funny when some gaming guild Goon recruit was occasionally made to post a thread in FYAD as some kind of hazing or something, and I'm not sure exactly what people expected, to be trolled in some way, I guess... I don't know, even. When this happened it gave me the image of like a bunch of dorks daring each other to run through the girls locker room, and absolutely no ones, at all, giving the tiniest poo poo about the streaker running through lol

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



That poopy pants community

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Solice Kirsk posted:

That's an expensive book.

Apparently I linked the hardcover edition.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

Splash Attack posted:

wasn't there a article written about how goons rescued a bunch of people from a lovely player in eve who basically was holding people hostage in game and forcing them to mine for him or something?

It sounds insane and it's absolutely true.

edit: a version of the story as told by one of the participants

YggiDee fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Apr 19, 2020

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Carthag Tuek posted:

When i think about it, the thing i miss the most about old old GBS isnt the news stuff, its the pants making GBS threads

I'm just sitting here ready to go :shobon:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

YggiDee posted:

It sounds insane and it's absolutely true.

edit: a version of the story as told by one of the participants

I never, ever want to play EVE but man do I enjoy reading about it.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Phy posted:

I remember that there had been so many threads about goons with horrible rear end boils that there was a concept of an "annual pilonidal cyst thread" but I don't remember what the last one I actually saw was
This is still in the (decade-old) Goon Doctor rules thread:

Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:

3. If you have a swollen, red, painful area at the top of your buttcrack, it's likely a pilonidal cyst that needs to be drained by a doctor

Crocoswine
Aug 20, 2010

Grandmother of Five posted:

Not knowing any of these games, it was sort of funny when some gaming guild Goon recruit was occasionally made to post a thread in FYAD as some kind of hazing or something, and I'm not sure exactly what people expected, to be trolled in some way, I guess... I don't know, even. When this happened it gave me the image of like a bunch of dorks daring each other to run through the girls locker room, and absolutely no ones, at all, giving the tiniest poo poo about the streaker running through lol

I remember seeing a thread the goon group for Star Trek Online (lol,) made someone post in FYAD, and everyone was just really nice to them instead. Then someone got the Star Trek Online thread moved to FYAD and they started probating people and replaced the OP with goatse. Good stuff.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

YggiDee posted:

It sounds insane and it's absolutely true.

edit: a version of the story as told by one of the participants

Lmao amazing



Saucer Crab posted:

Among the many goofy things going on in Age of Wushu before it all fell apart was that goons quickly found out that if you paid for a premium sub directly your credit card would get compromised, so Subway gift cards became a commodity because they were the most convenient safe way to pay for a game sub.

Eat fresh! *pukes on u*

Edit

article posted:

“He said God punished me with cancer because I deserve to die,” Alexya says. “I went beserk.”
:stare:

Dixville fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Apr 19, 2020

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

S.D. posted:

Someone wrote a book on the history of EVE Online, and naturally Goons are a significant part of it. In fact I believe one of the chapter titles is "ENTER GOONS"

It's hard to understate just how much rep Goonswarm had, and how it leaked into other MMOs. Age of Wushu was mentioned (there was an event where the in-game moderators put bounties on themselves to encourage PVP play, so naturally goons formed a protective circle around them and took on all comers), but Star Trek Online had Starfleet Dental/Nerds of Prey, where griefing was a matter of either getting a fire extinguisher from an early mision and then hosing people down with white clouds in the social areas, or deploying goofy disco balls that you can buy during events that cause everyone, player and NPC alike, to start going through various dance emotes.

Pathfinder Online was specifically advertised during its Kickstarter to be anti-griefer, and while I can't remember the details anymore I have no doubt that Goonswarm-esque tactics were what people were thinking about. Pathfinder Online also basically never made it out of its alpha stage of development, so that tells you how popular it was.

I liked when WIRED interviewed some Goonswarm guys back in 2008 and got a picture of them all trying to look cool and badass talking about spending hours and hours of their lives just to make other people miserable.



quote:

"EVE is the only game I can think of in which morale is an actual quantifiable source of success," Houston says. "It's impossible to make another person stop playing or quit the game unless their spirit is, you know, crushed." And what makes the Goons' spirit ultimately uncrushable is knowing, in the end, that they're actually playing a different game altogether. As one GoonFleet member's online profile declared, "You may be playing EVE Online, but be warned: We are playing Something Awful."

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

that is just absolutely pathetic

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Sometimes it's just nice to belong

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747
That last, lingering bastion of goon pride

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

ulvir posted:

that is just absolutely pathetic

julius Caesar said that

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe

ulvir posted:

that is just absolutely pathetic

Different times, yeah goons acted like shits, yeah there is regret and disgust at past behaviour.

Having somewhere to belong, even if its has incredibly toxic aspects, can be a hell of a drug for people whom social isolation impacts upon on a daily basis.

Goons back were shits at times and proud of it but at least were not the racist chud fucks that other sites spawned. Its easy to use black and white decisions to judge and recriminate, but it was a different time. Still I do agree that Goons did bully and goons did pick on people, vulnerable people whom did not deserve. We should have known better at times.

We didnt know what we know now about mental health, about toxicity. It was the old broke brain thinking or perceptions. It doesn't excuse but at least we can change and own it now.

I also think the griefing thread came to a natural conclusion in a way that reflects how it got online. Essentially the funny people who were creative and fun left and the idiots ran it into the ground went too far.

Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Apr 19, 2020

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

I meant pathetic in the neckbearded :goonsay: kind of way, by how online tough-guy they tried to convey themselves as, not necessarily in a “toxic chuds” kind of way

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Foul Ole Ron posted:

I joined back in 05, back in the heyday of catlady GBS 1.0, back when goon meets were massive, the usual big names made comedy gold and radium still... "programmed".

To me that was peak SA, where being a goon was mocked internally but at the same time if anyone outside of SA took a swipe, you could count on a swarm of goons to jump in and help you... Just because for kicks and to wreck poo poo.

I never really played many mmorpgs, but back then, if you did you not only had a guild that had your back, but you had access to a huge treasure trove of gear to get you started.

It was crazy and the forums were so busy, if any clan needed muscle, all that was needed was a half decent GBS thread. Good Times.

I think that I've only heard the "catlady" stuff referring to the early 2010s era. The only goon guild that I've been a part of was in some browser game, and the guild gave you a shitload of resources, and everyone else hated us. And some people from different guilds sent me pms to warn me about the "true nature" of the goon guild.

ChubbyChecker fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Apr 19, 2020

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Foul Ole Ron posted:

Different times, yeah goons acted like shits, yeah there is regret and disgust at past behaviour.

Having somewhere to belong, even if its has incredibly toxic aspects, can be a hell of a drug for people whom social isolation impacts upon on a daily basis.

Goons back were shits at times and proud of it but at least were not the racist chud fucks that other sites spawned. Its easy to use black and white decisions to judge and recriminate, but it was a different time. Still I do agree that Goons did bully and goons did pick on people, vulnerable people whom did not deserve. We should have known better at times.

We didnt know what we know now about mental health, about toxicity. It was the old broke brain thinking or perceptions. It doesn't excuse but at least we can change and own it now.

I also think the griefing thread came to a natural conclusion in a way that reflects how it got online. Essentially the funny people who were creative and fun left and the idiots ran it into the ground went too far.

The difference between "legitimate" griefing and the people who just yell slurs and rape threats to get a rise out of people is like the difference between extreme couponers and shoplifters, they're both about getting the same rush and sense of power but one is dressed up in the kayfabe of legitimacy and requiring a lot of time and effort to achieve. And also the former usually graduates into being the latter when the thrill is gone and they don't drop out.

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe

ChubbyChecker posted:

I think that I've only heard the "catlady" stuff referring to the early 2010s era. The only goon guild that I've been a part of was in some browser game, and the guild gave you a shitload of resources, and everyone else hated us. And some people from different guilds sent me pms to warn me about the "true nature" of the goon guild.

The only time I really did myself was on a browser based game called Nexus wars. Every one Hated the goons. It was fun as we ran Scientologist esk organisation that was there to spread the "good word".

Tbh though I never really fit in with the guild (mostly due to major life problems at the time getting in the way) but it was a great feeling to belong to a group and have some sort of acceptance. When you have that feeling you don't care what happens.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's pretty much the same cycle with every community based on transgressions against outside targets; eventually you start running out of legitimate and/or easy targets and not everyone is willing to just stop, so you quickly turn to kicking over sandcastles and eventually each other. It happens on SA like, once a year at least.

Goonswarm seems to work mostly because eventually someone worms their way into a position of power or just loses their mind and implodes the entire goon fleet for the lulz or something, and you get to start all over again.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

YggiDee posted:

It sounds insane and it's absolutely true.

edit: a version of the story as told by one of the participants

quote:

Together with Markonius Porkbutte, a Goonswarm spymaster, Scooter and The Mittani reached out to rival null-sec alliances to put aside differences and devise a strategy to liberate the trapped Standing United newbies.

This sounds like the premise of the dumbest and greatest scifi novel ever.

Also, The Mittani was Vilerat, wasn't he?

UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008
Toilet Rascal

Nuns with Guns posted:

This sounds like the premise of the dumbest and greatest scifi novel ever.

Also, The Mittani was Vilerat, wasn't he?

no Vile rat was vilerat in goonswarm. The Mittani is still the leader of Goonswarm and active.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

UCS Hellmaker posted:

no Vile rat was vilerat in goonswarm. The Mittani is still the leader of Goonswarm and active.

Ah, okay, it's neat he was willing to okay an operation to take down someone doing something objectively shittier than Goonswarm for no personal gain.

UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008
Toilet Rascal

Nuns with Guns posted:

Ah, okay, it's neat he was willing to okay an operation to take down someone doing something objectively shittier than Goonswarm for no personal gain.

Regardless of anything else most of the major groups detest the groups like that, its something that can and will bring people together because its lovely but also ruins the ability to recruit new members. A group that burns and churns new members will go for the newbies that are the lifeblood for a game to keep growing, and allowing them to keep festering will make it so most new players may never get out of the beginning of the game. its a win/win for everyone involved.

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


The best STO Goon grief was when they built a top tier guild station and opened it to the public, making all the other big guilds lose their poo poo because they couldn't gouge people for access to their special crafting stations anymore.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

My impression as someone who's just heard of Goonswarm stuff on the forums is that generally they want to go after established players and stuff bc it's more fun to have a challenge, anyway. Preying on new players is like shooting fish in a barrel.

S.D.
Apr 28, 2008

ThingOne posted:

The best STO Goon grief was when they built a top tier guild station and opened it to the public, making all the other big guilds lose their poo poo because they couldn't gouge people for access to their special crafting stations anymore.


If I remember it right, it was specifically when another guild got their starbase assets to max rank, and said guild was both 1) klingon-side, where the population is much lower and having max-level starbase assets to buy high-level equipment is a bigger deal, and 2) known for erotic roleplay.

The message board announcement was something along the lines of "In celebration of another group finally getting tier 5 starbase facilities after us, Nerds of Prey is opening its doors to any and all people who want to use the Fleet Store! Just come to our public channel and ask for an invite, and someone will be around shortly to let you in." And that turned out to be an amazing grief because other groups would charge an entry fee just to use base facilities for 5 minutes.

In short, LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM WINS AGAIN.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



I used to be in Goonsquad in GuildWars2, and it was a blast. Mostly we were more about playing Pretty Princess and having large group chaotic fun with Guild events and dragging newbies through dungeons and World Bosses.

LaB was actually our Guild Master. Her leadership style could be best be described as exasperated.

gamingCaffeinator
Sep 6, 2010

I shall sing you the song of my people.

Proteus Jones posted:

I used to be in Goonsquad in GuildWars2, and it was a blast. Mostly we were more about playing Pretty Princess and having large group chaotic fun with Guild events and dragging newbies through dungeons and World Bosses.

LaB was actually our Guild Master. Her leadership style could be best be described as exasperated.

I wanted to join GoonSquad in GW2 because it sounded like a hoot after hearing about how it worked in WoW.

YggiDee posted:

It sounds insane and it's absolutely true.

edit: a version of the story as told by one of the participants

This is heartwarming. :kimchi:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003




The 3 purple/gold heart logos are goon guilds in Final Fantasy 14. It's pretty nice to have a huge amount of resources available for newbies, I don't think there's ever been any large-scale griefing on the part of goons in that game.

e: to clarify I'm not even sure what the points system on that list means, I just know that the guilds ("Free Companies") grant great bonuses, everyone is super-friendly and helpful for running actual content, and people are happy to craft high-end gear for peanuts. It's a pretty great community

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Proteus Jones posted:

I used to be in Goonsquad in GuildWars2, and it was a blast. Mostly we were more about playing Pretty Princess and having large group chaotic fun with Guild events and dragging newbies through dungeons and World Bosses.

LaB was actually our Guild Master. Her leadership style could be best be described as exasperated.

Getting LaB to abuse her guild master powers to spawn a world boss (Tequatl) 5 minutes earlier than normal whilst everyone was AFK at spawn was the best thing ever. I'll see if I can find the logs of people freaking out in chat because that was pretty amusing at the time.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

Snow Cone Capone posted:



The 3 purple/gold heart logos are goon guilds in Final Fantasy 14. It's pretty nice to have a huge amount of resources available for newbies, I don't think there's ever been any large-scale griefing on the part of goons in that game.

e: to clarify I'm not even sure what the points system on that list means, I just know that the guilds ("Free Companies") grant great bonuses, everyone is super-friendly and helpful for running actual content, and people are happy to craft high-end gear for peanuts. It's a pretty great community

Can you even grief in FF14? I played it for like two hours and did nothing except pop tiny cute monsters and use emotes. What's griefing in that game, just winking flirtatiously at someone who doesn't want you to?

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Can you even grief in FF14? I played it for like two hours and did nothing except pop tiny cute monsters and use emotes. What's griefing in that game, just winking flirtatiously at someone who doesn't want you to?

Naw, there's not much griefing to be had there (thankfully). However, a few years back there was a contest to show what your guild was doing while waiting for the expansion and one of the goon guilds went to a neighbor's house and recorded a video where they acted like a mysterious robed cult performing sacrifices there or something. Said neighbors got real real mad about that iirc.


Trying desperately to find it, but no luck so far.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Proteus Jones posted:

LaB was actually our Guild Master. Her leadership style could be best be described as exasperated.
ahhh but I love(d) you guys anyway.


Ibblebibble posted:

Getting LaB to abuse her guild master powers to spawn a world boss (Tequatl) 5 minutes earlier than normal whilst everyone was AFK at spawn was the best thing ever. I'll see if I can find the logs of people freaking out in chat because that was pretty amusing at the time.
why I never. :angel:

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

a kitten posted:

Naw, there's not much griefing to be had there (thankfully). However, a few years back there was a contest to show what your guild was doing while waiting for the expansion and one of the goon guilds went to a neighbor's house and recorded a video where they acted like a mysterious robed cult performing sacrifices there or something. Said neighbors got real real mad about that iirc.


Trying desperately to find it, but no luck so far.

oh my god please post this if you find it hahahhaha!

To contribute:

I have, and always will be, a big fan of the Lissedae threads:
I'm getting married in 42 days! (At CONvergence)
Remember that crazy Zelda wedding?

(I LIKE her dress and wedding colors, for the record.)

Also, I happen to know that her next wedding was Harry Potter-themed.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Jesus those comments and that custom av someone paid for are just edgy as poo poo

Edit: I didn't go past page 1 in either thread but that's 2007 edge

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Theme weddings are weird. All weddings are weird, but theme weddings are the weirdest. Having multiple theme weddings is something beyond weird.

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May 4, 2006

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Malachite_Dragon posted:

In hindsight, something probably should've been done about the people so adamantly defending their right to say a slur then and there instead of letting it lay for several years more.

Um I think you'll find that this is the first year hindsight existed.

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