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FlamingLiberal posted:My feeling is that with all of the effort towards vaccines and treatments we will eventually find something that works Like I said a couple weeks ago, it’ll involve crystals.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Like I said a couple weeks ago, it’ll involve crystals. Jackoff Crystal's or FFXIII crystals?
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Agents are GO! posted:Jackoff Crystal's or FFXIII crystals? Some sort of dollar store New Age Healing Crystals ground up into a powder.
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Inferior Third Season posted:If there is no effective treatment or cure, and it turns out that there is no natural immunity or it is only short-lived, and if being asymptomatic once doesn't necessarily mean being asymptomatic on subsequent reinfections, this could become a constant killer of the elderly. It would take a noticeable bite out of life expectancy. It will be like cancer - live long enough and don't die of anything else, and it will eventually get you. If this is a disease that has no treatment, can not be vaccinated against, can be gotten again and again forever, spreads 60 feet and hangs in the air for 18 hours and all the other anxiety theories, then it's a crazy sci-fi disease and the answer is going to be militarily enforced quartines that come out later as just big incinerators they throw everyone in until the disease is not community spreading, then amazing draconian entry requirements with guns pointing at people or something. But it's not a crazy sci-fi fantasy disease, so it won't be that.
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Residency Evil posted:Rona antibody positive! Hell yeah! and I just had my swab. That was uncomfortable.
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FlamingLiberal posted:My feeling is that with all of the effort towards vaccines and treatments we will eventually find something that works one thing i thought was reassuring about that vaccine roundup was actually that it makes it extremely clear that basically every big biotech/pharma group that makes vaccines has rapidly shifted their lines to focusing on this quote:So by my count, the biggest and most advanced programs include two inactivated virus vaccines, three different adenovirus vector vaccines, two mRNA possibilities, a DNA vaccine, and a recombinant protein. That’s a pretty good spread of mechanisms, and there are of course plenty more coming up right behind these at least, i find it comforting to know that there's a bunch of extremely different approaches competing to get there first, so even if one angle doesn't work there's still a bunch in the works
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Fallom posted:Everybody who's had a runny nose in the last 3 months has already been saying it's the sickest they've ever been and no doubt it was Corona so this is going to be great Yeah, I feel like there's a grey area where you shouldn't assume you've had it, and then there's a less grey area where you traveled abroad and came back and had a fever while dying of congested lungs for a week straight and you should...still assume that you didn't have it just in case. I am consistently floored by the misconceptions everyone around me seems to display about illness all the time, even people who are normally well-read and well-reasoned on most topics. 'Tired? Must be a cold.' 'Runny nose? Oh yeah, definitely the flu.' 'Oh, yeah, I also had the shits a coupla days back, definitely a second flu.' It makes me wonder sometimes if I'm also incredibly stupid about sickness and I just don't know it. A couple of years back I think I did manage to catch the flu twice in one season. I reason this because I was knocked flat on my rear end with a raging fever for a week straight two separate times a month and a half apart, and pretty much lost a quarter of the year. At one point during the fever hallucinations I lost my vision and thought I was dead, and that apparently the afterlife is very beige
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I’m pretty sure I’ve only ever caught the flu a couple times in my entire life, all when I was kid. I don’t know if that means I’m lucky or if I have a good immune system.
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eke out posted:one thing i thought was reassuring about that vaccine roundup was actually that it makes it extremely clear that basically every big biotech/pharma group that makes vaccines has rapidly shifted their lines to focusing on this
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Apr 24, 2020 15:58
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I’m pretty sure I’ve only ever caught the flu a couple times in my entire life, all when I was kid. I don’t know if that means I’m lucky or if I have a good immune system. I've had it twice as an adult. Each time I had the worst fever dreams and it felt like every joint was on fire.
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Shady Amish Terror posted:I am consistently floored by the misconceptions everyone around me seems to display about illness all the time, even people who are normally well-read and well-reasoned on most topics. 'Tired? Must be a cold.' 'Runny nose? Oh yeah, definitely the flu.' 'Oh, yeah, I also had the shits a coupla days back, definitely a second flu.' It makes me wonder sometimes if I'm also incredibly stupid about sickness and I just don't know it. People believing that migraines are mild headaches made it really hard to call off of work when I was bedridden and vomiting from the pain. In retrospect I should've just lied and said I had a stomach flu.
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Fallom posted:People believing that migraines are mild headaches made it really hard to call off of work when I was bedridden and vomiting from the pain. In retrospect I should've just lied and said I had a stomach flu. Haha, fuuuck, that sucks. Sorry to hear that one.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I’m pretty sure I’ve only ever caught the flu a couple times in my entire life, all when I was kid. I don’t know if that means I’m lucky or if I have a good immune system. I hadn't gotten sick in over a decade until I went back to school. Then I proceeded to get sick over and over again with the worst flues ever and they always hit me right at points where I was unable to stay home. "Show up for this presentation or lose 30% of your grade. No excuses." "This final is held on the last possible day, it cannot be pushed back." That kind of thing. For the "maybe it was COVID?" front, my mother had a mysterious viral pneumonia that the doctors couldn't identify the source of for a few weeks in early February with the exact progression and timeline of COVID-19 and she caught it after being in the hospital for a few days. On the other hand, she lives in a remote area and there hasn't been an enormous cluster of COVID-19 where she lives so it probably wasn't. But it's still kind of suspicious. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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Fallom posted:People believing that migraines are mild headaches made it really hard to call off of work when I was bedridden and vomiting from the pain. In retrospect I should've just lied and said I had a stomach flu. As a chronic migraine sufferer, I fell your pain. My lady job I had to get a written letter from my neurologist saying my migraines weren't bullshit before they took them seriously.
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What's that website/model that predicts when states should start reopening?
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Herstory Begins Now posted:There's zero evidence of this. By all accounts it just kills the gently caress out of old people, full stop That's not true, old people w several comorbidities are being hospitalized and dying at higher rates than their less-sick counterparts. Long term care facilities are full of old people who are too sick to live on their own, they will have extremely high mortality rates.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:That's not true, old people w several comorbidities are being hospitalized and dying at higher rates than their less-sick counterparts. Long term care facilities are full of old people who are too sick to live on their own, they will have extremely high mortality rates. Yes, at higher rates. The baseline rate for people over 70 or 80 is still insanely high by any standard, whether your account for comorbidities or not.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Yes, at higher rates. The baseline rate for people over 70 or 80 is still insanely high by any standard, whether your account for comorbidities or not. Agreed, but it is still impacted by comorbidity. I think the point PT6A was making is that long term care residents are sicker by definition, so the death rates that we see from nursing homes are not representative of that age demographic as a whole. Beg your pardon if I misunderstood either of you.
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I almost certainly caught the swine flu when it was going around because I was knocked the gently caress over by it for like a week. I don't think I've ever felt as ill as I did that week and haven't since, and would like to keep it that way if possible.
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Residency Evil posted:Rona antibody positive! Hell yeah! Were you sick recently?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I’m pretty sure I’ve only ever caught the flu a couple times in my entire life, all when I was kid. I don’t know if that means I’m lucky or if I have a good immune system. You're lucky but not lottery winner lucky. About 8% of people get symptomatic influenza every year.
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cr0y posted:Were you sick recently? nope. Late Feb/early march I lost taste/smell for a few days but that's it. Hopefully that was it. Swab is pending.
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Of all the "low death rate" things we've seen the chuds scream about, they seem to forget we live in the US. Even a short stay in-patient, or even a trip to the ER is gonna wipe out a lot of people's savings. I've got full health insurance, savings, and one of those dumb rear end health savings accounts and I STILL don't wanna deal with a trip to the hospital.
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Fallom posted:People believing that migraines are mild headaches made it really hard to call off of work when I was bedridden and vomiting from the pain. In retrospect I should've just lied and said I had a stomach flu. I'm "lucky" to have a boss whose son suffers from migraines too so he doesn't mind when I call off for it. Though in my case I go blind for (sometimes) hours, which would make it hard to even get to work.
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robotsinmyhead posted:Of all the "low death rate" things we've seen the chuds scream about, they seem to forget we live in the US. Even a short stay in-patient, or even a trip to the ER is gonna wipe out a lot of people's savings. Aren't you glad Congress never got around to banning that thing where if one doctor talks to the wrong other doctor anywhere in the hospital suddenly you owe an extra $10K?
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haveblue posted:Aren't you glad Congress never got around to banning that thing where if one doctor talks to the wrong other doctor anywhere in the hospital suddenly you owe an extra $10K? The poo poo that happens in hospitals is outrageous. My ER is staffed by doctors who aren't in my "Tier 1" network with my insurance, even though the ER itself is and is listed as such on the insurance company's website. If I go to the ER, it's relatively inexpensive, but then you get a bare minimum $400 bill from the Dr's group that staff us. If you get CT/XRay, you might have your study read by another out-of-network group who will bill you separately. God forbid you go to surgery, because then you're going to meet up with our outsourced Anesthesia providers and THEY'RE gonna bill you separately too (and they're not in network either). Then there's the ambulance ride!
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Xombie posted:I'm "lucky" to have a boss whose son suffers from migraines too so he doesn't mind when I call off for it. Though in my case I go blind for (sometimes) hours, which would make it hard to even get to work. I've recently had 'visual migraines' a couple of times in the past few years, and I've got to say it's a hilariously misleading name. Losing your vision briefly to a scintillating field of random color is alarming, but surely cannot even be in the same zip code as everything I hear about most migraines. E: Or having it last for hours, for that matter.
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robotsinmyhead posted:The poo poo that happens in hospitals is outrageous. My ER is staffed by doctors who aren't in my "Tier 1" network with my insurance, even though the ER itself is and is listed as such on the insurance company's website. If I go to the ER, it's relatively inexpensive, but then you get a bare minimum $400 bill from the Dr's group that staff us. If you get CT/XRay, you might have your study read by another out-of-network group who will bill you separately. Yeah - common here, too. My wife spent a night in the ER. We had five different bills as a result.
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robotsinmyhead posted:The poo poo that happens in hospitals is outrageous. My ER is staffed by doctors who aren't in my "Tier 1" network with my insurance, even though the ER itself is and is listed as such on the insurance company's website. If I go to the ER, it's relatively inexpensive, but then you get a bare minimum $400 bill from the Dr's group that staff us. If you get CT/XRay, you might have your study read by another out-of-network group who will bill you separately. My favorite was finding an in-network doctor covered by insurance, going to said doctor's office, and then the doctor going "hey need to run this test real quick go to this room". A lady comes in does the test real quick and off I go. Next week get a bill for $5000 because that lady was actually also a doctor but is out of my network. So I get billed for out of network doctor, out of network testing, and out of network lab results! None of which are covered by insurance... because she's not in my network. Isn't health insurance fun! And I didn't even suspect that lady was a doctor, as I thought she was a nurse of some sort and I was just following directions. Are people supposed to ask everyone whether they're in-network? What if you're incapacitated and being rushed to a hospital, who is supposed to be checking who is in-network and who is not while you're dying there? What a dumbass system. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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Willo567 posted:So what the hell do we do if we never get a treatment or vaccine for this poo poo? Late stage capitalism would love a "natural" way to just kill everyone once they hit retirement age.
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COVID will be like the yeti in ski free that gets everyone eventually no matter how many flips you do or how fast you go
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Phil Moscowitz posted:COVID will be like the yeti in ski free that gets everyone eventually no matter how many flips you do or how fast you go Just push the F key you dummy
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Booourns posted:Just push the F key you dummy I didnt realize you just had to pay respects to the covid To survive
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Residency Evil posted:nope. Late Feb/early march I lost taste/smell for a few days but that's it. Hopefully that was it. Swab is pending. Negative swab!
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Booourns posted:Just push the F key you dummy FreelanceSocialist posted:And of course there's a relevant XKCD. Wow wait what the actual gently caress?
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