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Barry Foster posted:life, uh, f keys a way
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WHY DIDNT ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT PRESSING F
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Apr 24, 2020 18:15
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If it makes you feel any better eventually a second yeti shows up. At least that's what I remember. It's been a long time.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:15
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The second COVID infection is what does you in
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Apr 24, 2020 18:17
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I feel like the only people who think the way American health care works is acceptable either haven't had to deal with it much or have large bank accounts.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:25
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FlamingLiberal posted:My feeling is that with all of the effort towards vaccines and treatments we will eventually find something that works In normal times 10% of drugs entering Stage 1 trials end up being FDA approved. Since we're throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks, just assume it'll be closer to 5% for treatments for this virus. Every time you see news about an antiviral, a vaccine, or a new technique for assisting patients just treat it like another lottery ticket with a 5% chance to pay off. The vast majority of these are going to be losers, but the more 5% chance tickets you get the more likely you are to win overall.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:29
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:In normal times 10% of drugs entering Stage 1 trials end up being FDA approved. Since we're throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks, just assume it'll be closer to 5% for treatments for this virus. 
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Apr 24, 2020 18:31
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robotsinmyhead posted:Of all the "low death rate" things we've seen the chuds scream about, they seem to forget we live in the US. Even a short stay in-patient, or even a trip to the ER is gonna wipe out a lot of people's savings. I never thought about it because my country has actually sane healthcare system, but yeah. If I was in the US, I would be scared shitless of catching Covid and then having to spend next 10 years paying off my medical bills... how the hell are there people who want to open poo poo up?
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Xarn posted:I never thought about it because my country has actually sane healthcare system, but yeah. If I was in the US, I would be scared shitless of catching Covid and then having to spend next 10 years paying off my medical bills... how the hell are there people who want to open poo poo up? To the people that want to open poo poo up, every problem they have is because liberals/Democrats/communists/deep state screwed things up or created a hoax. Their side can do no wrong and anything bad they do can be explained away because reasons. Think of it like an 8 year old would act towards their favorite sports team but less grounded in reality.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:33
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Basically, yeah.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:34
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Residency Evil posted:Negative swab! 
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Apr 24, 2020 18:39
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Big shout out to the governor of Georgia in helping corona virus kill hundreds of thousands more people.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:48
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Al-Saqr posted:Big shout out to the governor of Georgia in helping corona virus kill hundreds of thousands more people. Did they actually "open"? Been a busy work day.
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Apr 24, 2020 18:54
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Medullah posted:Did they actually "open"? Been a busy work day. I saw that LA Fitness is not opening yet in GA despite gyms being allowed to open
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Apr 24, 2020 18:59
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes they opened some businesses Maybe the big chains won’t because they’re more afraid of liability.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:01
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Tremendous.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:10
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Tremendous. He’s really an amazing thinker. Light inside the body. Nobody thought of that before. Except some cops but they used the wrong end of the maglite unfortunately.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:13
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Phil Moscowitz posted:He’s really an amazing thinker. Light inside the body. Nobody thought of that before. Except some cops but they used the wrong end of the maglite unfortunately. Cops usually employ a different methodology of allowing light to get into bodies.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:15
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We're lucky he doesn't know about endoscopes, he'd demand you hook up the UV deathray to one and stick it in your lungs.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:18
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Phil Moscowitz posted:He’s really an amazing thinker. Light inside the body. Nobody thought of that before. Except some cops but they used the wrong end of the maglite unfortunately. "Either through the skin... or.. some other way..." I mean, the hospital where I work uses UV light robot things to disinfect rooms. But it takes a special kind of stable genius to think that would work inside the body. I wish he'd run his ideas past the doctors/advisors before doing the pressers... he's gonna get people killed. Like the guy here in AZ who took the malaria drug he was pushing and died. (I guess it wasn't the right kind or something) Zazz Razzamatazz fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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Apr 24, 2020 19:19
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think we have discussed that California is not seeing the same level of positive tests as another big state like NY so far. I saw an LA Times update saying that the state’s death total is increasing (about half is from the LA area), but that the hospitals are not overwhelmed. They are seeing a steady number of Covid patients but it is not at a level they can’t handle for the time being. It has everything to do with public transportation.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:19
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Spacebump posted:I feel like the only people who think the way American health care works is acceptable either haven't had to deal with it much or have large bank accounts. There are some people who genuinely just have amazing insurance through their jobs. I have a $0 co-pay and $0 premium insurance policy that covers everything-- even ambulances. There is an optional rider for prescriptions that costs $200 a month. I also happen to work in the public sector, and my insurance is self-funded by the political subdivision. So I essentially have single payer. There are other options I could have chosen, but for the life of me I don't understand why anyone would. The other options cost hundreds or even thousands a month in premiums, plus co-pays, for less benefits. I'm sure it has something to do with public bid law, or the like. That is obviously not representative of just about anyone else in America. But I am sure there are plenty of people who also work for my employer, and do not have the self awareness or critical thinking to understand the unique privilege this particular benefit is. So I'm sure they think American health care is just fine, and everyone else is just stupid for not picking the right plan from the choices their employers offer.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:28
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Al-Saqr posted:Big shout out to the governor of Georgia in helping corona virus kill hundreds of thousands more people. Other way around. The bug is a feature.
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Grayly Squirrel posted:There are some people who genuinely just have amazing insurance through their jobs. I have a $0 co-pay and $0 premium insurance policy that covers everything-- even ambulances. There is an optional rider for prescriptions that costs $200 a month. I also happen to work in the public sector, and my insurance is self-funded by the political subdivision. So I essentially have single payer. There are other options I could have chosen, but for the life of me I don't understand why anyone would. The other options cost hundreds or even thousands a month in premiums, plus co-pays, for less benefits. I'm sure it has something to do with public bid law, or the like. Yeah there's basically three categories that are fine with the US system and will resist attempts to change it: -Has really good insurance set up and paid for by someone else -Is lucky enough to have never had a major health crisis or reason to interact extensively with health insurance at all -Is literally employed by the current system
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Apr 24, 2020 19:36
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Yeah I’m pretty pumped tbqh. A really great Friday.
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haveblue posted:Yeah there's basically three categories that are fine with the US system and will resist attempts to change it: The one positive of our current hosed up healthcare system is that the intense greed of capitalism means that #1 dwindles every year as people get hosed by rising costs that are passed on to them, even with "really good insurance" and also that the current pandemic is going to insure that #2 is also exceedingly unlikely.
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Everytime I hear one of these things on TV shows I watch it makes me wonder how Americans put up with this poo poo: "I would've gone to therapy but my insurance doesn't cover it" "I can't pay for college" That sounds like living hell.
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Apr 24, 2020 19:50
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WaltherFeng posted:Everytime I hear one of these things on TV shows I watch it makes me wonder how Americans put up with this poo poo: Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug. "At least I live in the greatest country on earth!  "
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Apr 24, 2020 19:55
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Maybe the big chains won’t because they’re more afraid of liability. 24 Hour Fitness might, they're on the verge of bankruptcy. Fuckers are still charging monthly fees while shut down, saying they'll add free months to the end of people's memberships when they cancel, which is hilariously stupid.
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A long time friend came through today for (legal) free weed, since many people's supply chains are hosed in the pandemic, and it was a little surreal; he's a "critical" worker traveling regionally doing IT repairs. He parked at the bottom of my driveway, we all stayed 10-12' apart, and he actually never took off the mask he was wearing, I think because he didn't want to do so until he was ready to clean up and sanitize to re-enter his house. We had a 20 minute conversation where we couldn't shake hands or get within spitting distance, with my wife and kid hovering a step behind me. I've had some strange interactions over the years as far as exchanging substances, but this is a whole new level of bizarre.
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Apr 24, 2020 20:03
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If anyone wants a good laugh and an example of how to do literally everything wrong in a statistical analysis, I present "There's no empirical evidence for these lockdowns"
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Stickman posted:If anyone wants a good laugh and an example of how to do literally everything wrong in a statistical analysis, I present I'll give everyone the most relevant single statement from that article: quote:As a professional political scientist
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WaltherFeng posted:Everytime I hear one of these things on TV shows I watch it makes me wonder how Americans put up with this poo poo: Many Americans live in bubbles listening to propaganda blasted at them 24/7, but also we're a really racist and stupid country.
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WaltherFeng posted:Everytime I hear one of these things on TV shows I watch it makes me wonder how Americans put up with this poo poo: They should make a sitcom based on an American student studying abroad in a place with, like, normal healthcare and sane tuition prices, to sneak it into the American consciousness that those things actually exist and work.
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Apr 24, 2020 20:54
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Jaxyon posted:Many Americans live in bubbles listening to propaganda blasted at them 24/7, but also we're a really racist and stupid country. We've also absorbed a lot of attacks on public health care, instigated by those three groups (mostly the third).
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also we fetishize "choice" in consumer goods so when a politician says "if you like your insurance, you can keep it," americans' monkey brains are like "yeah that sounds great!" without thinking critically about what keeping the current system actually means
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haveblue posted:Yeah there's basically three categories that are fine with the US system and will resist attempts to change it: #1 is kind of a double-edged sword. Yeah, folks can end up fine with the current system if they have a good plan, but they can also end up railing against it because moving to any other job means a (sometimes significant) healthcare downgrade. That's me, right now. My employer provides a comparably good plan, and I loving hate that it's something that it's something I have to consider if I were to start job hunting. Tying healthcare to an employer is hosed on so many levels.
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'll give everyone the most relevant single statement from that article: To be fair, I enlisted the help of a poli sci student when I was modeling stuff for my thesis in materials science because the poli sci grads had to take a fuckton of stats courses and generally knew their poo poo better than the rest of us. Probably not that guy, though.
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Kreeblah posted:#1 is kind of a double-edged sword. Yeah, folks can end up fine with the current system if they have a good plan, but they can also end up railing against it because moving to any other job means a (sometimes significant) healthcare downgrade. I've been basically trapped in lovely jobs I've hated ever since I graduated from undergrad because I have diabetes and need marginally decent healthcare just to survive. Great system, normal country.
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There's no such thing as a "good" insurance plan in the US healthcare system - there's only plans that haven't screwed you yet. Some are less likely than others to end up in a trap but there's literally no way to avoid all of the traps of the American healthcare system, especially not the loss of plan access when losing or changing jobs. And that's not even accounting for the fact that they're invariably expensive as hell and cost has been rapidly increasing since the 90s. Stickman fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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