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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Kitty Pryde loves finding excuses to say the n-word. It lands exactly as flat every loving time: Wow more like Kitty Prejudice
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Sir Lemming posted:Wow more like Kitty Prejudice Excellent
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May 9, 2020 01:34
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christmas boots posted:So some people decided that any show that had a crossover or character cameo with St. Elsewhere was part of this “Westphall Universe” and shows that crossed over with those shows were as well and so on and so on. He did it as proof to other comics/superhero turbonerds to not be obsessive about what "counts" and "doesn't" because if you're truly logical and carry every crossover to the logical conclusion you end up with 400+ vastly disparate works that are all technically connected and "happening" simultaneously. Sir Lemming posted:Wow more like Kitty Prejudice
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May 9, 2020 01:34
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Zaroff posted:Did they explain what his deal was? I remember there was a point made about how he seemed to have a lot more money than a cop should, driving flashy cars and so on, but don't remember any explanation as to why (IIRC there were rumours of him being paid off by the mob?) I don't think so. When they first introduced Briscoe back in season 3, it felt like they wanted him to have a sketchy background and history. However, that seems to have been toned down fairly quickly, so while he had issues having been an alcoholic and working with seemingly dozens of corrupt officers, Lennie was generally a good cop. Fontana seemed to be them trying to go back to the sketchy character, hence his flashy aspects and odd references to whatever happened back in Chicago, but they seemed to bail on that as well. Fontana didn't get a good introduction, and that didn't help matters, plus the whole replacing Lennie Briscoe weight. Season 15 also suffered with Southerlyn getting replaced by Borgia midway through, who was basically bland and forgettable save for her eventual fate a season later, and the Nick Falco episodes. Season 16 with Fontana and Green was better, and I think by that point they'd gotten solid, but still kinda weaker overall.
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May 9, 2020 01:40
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Koalas March posted:What the gently caress. Did he consent to that or was it after he died? What a loving creep Maybe he consented before he died but I doubt it. Chain of events: - Amanda Palmer fakes suicide and records it - Breaks up with boyfriend - Boyfriend commits suicide like 6 months later - Amanda Palmer uses recording in a song! - Amanda Palmer apologies for this since she was "only a kid" (31)
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May 9, 2020 01:44
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fartknocker posted:Also, if we’re talking the original Law & Order and SVU’s John Munch, you may wanna look up Homicide: Life on the Street. They crossed over two or three times during the late 90s, and while I haven’t seen much of it in forever since it’s not in syndication like L&O, I recall it generally being good too. Yeah, Homicide is very good. It's the prelude to the Wire, basically.
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May 9, 2020 01:48
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Arivia posted:Yeah, Homicide is very good. It's the prelude to the Wire, basically. It also had one of the best title translations into Hebrew: "Murder from Red to Black"
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May 9, 2020 01:51
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On good Law and Orders. Will second anything with Jerry Orbach is worth watching, (or at the least having on in the bacground), but I have a soft spot for the seasons with Anthony Anderson and the guy who played the girlfriends brother in Six Feet Under. I can't really justify it, but I liked that pairing.
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May 9, 2020 02:26
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fartknocker posted:Fontana didn't get a good introduction, and that didn't help matters, plus the whole replacing Lennie Briscoe weight. Season 15 also suffered with Southerlyn getting replaced by Borgia midway through, who was basically bland and forgettable save for her eventual fate a season later, and the Nick Falco episodes. Season 16 with Fontana and Green was better, and I think by that point they'd gotten solid, but still kinda weaker overall. While he was no Lenny I definitely thought Fontana was the best detective brought in after Orbach left. Probably helped that Dennis Farina was an IRL cop for 18 years. I think one more Green/Fontana season could have been really good, and that's not just because of how much of a wet fart Cassidy was. BrigadierSensible posted:On good Law and Orders. Anderson was decent but Lupo always seemed like he was on the verge of falling asleep. Dude just has permanent snooze face. Arivia posted:Yeah, Homicide is very good. It's the prelude to the Wire, basically. As an added plus it had Andre Braugher as one of the lead detectives. Just imagine it's Captain Holt: The Early Years. Mr Luxury Yacht has a new favorite as of 02:30 on May 9, 2020 |
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May 9, 2020 02:28
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:While he was no Lenny I definitely thought Fontana was the best detective brought in after Orbach left. Probably helped that Dennis Farina was an IRL cop for 18 years. I think one more Green/Fontana season could have been really good, and that's not just because of how much of a wet fart Cassidy was. I liked Fontana too. I may be misremembering things or some of the timing, but it felt like everyone absolutely hated him in season 15 when it was originally airing, and honestly it wasn't until those seasons hit syndication that I started hearing positive reactions to the character.
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May 9, 2020 02:35
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Pick posted:Maybe he consented before he died but I doubt it. While it doesn't change much, the "only a kid" remark is about the fake suicide itself which she was something like 18. She was 31 when she put it in an album
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May 9, 2020 03:01
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It’s funny watching the first season of Brooklyn 99 and watching Andre Braugher learn how to act comedically. It’s like Data learning how to tell jokes in The Next Generation except in real life. And then you get to give B99 fans who only know him as Holt loving whiplash by showing them Pembleton extracting a knowingly false confession to prove a point. You want to see cop dramas that really show ACAB, look at Homicide and The Wire.
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May 9, 2020 03:06
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Garrand posted:While it doesn't change much, the "only a kid" remark is about the fake suicide itself which she was something like 18. She was 31 when she put it in an album TBH I think it makes it worse because now there's an extra 13 years of self-reflection that obviously didn't happen.
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May 9, 2020 03:07
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christmas boots posted:TBH I think it makes it worse because now there's an extra 13 years of self-reflection that obviously didn't happen. I completely agree. If she had released that recording at 18, it would have been a hosed up thing to do, but it would also have been the hosed up poor decision of an 18 year old who didn't know better. (This is being extremely generous to her,) But by releasing the recording as an adult, she is clearly thinking, "Hey, I did a stupid, hurtful, and hosed up thing when I was a teenager. Let's use that to further my career now. He's dead, so he can't sue." Which cannot be explained away by youth, naivete, or stupidity. It is straight out hosed up. Not to be "that guy", but I never liked Amanda Palmer. But this was before I knew what a bad person she is. I didn't like her because she, and her public persona always seemed to me to be performatively twee, and extremely pretentious.
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May 9, 2020 03:27
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Arivia posted:It’s funny watching the first season of Brooklyn 99 and watching Andre Braugher learn how to act comedically. It’s like Data learning how to tell jokes in The Next Generation except in real life. The best part of B99 is that now in the last season or two it’s clear that Holt is by far the craziest person on the squad
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May 9, 2020 03:33
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oldpainless posted:The best part of B99 is that now in the last season or two it’s clear that Holt is by far the craziest person on the squad He can't help it his brain is hard.
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May 9, 2020 04:00
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christmas boots posted:Last I checked there were dozens (maybe even up into the hundreds?) of shows that had been folded in and John Munch was responsibility for a staggeringly large number of them. It’s hundreds of shows and now it’s taking over movies too. St. Elsewhere -> Homicide -> Arrested Development (through Munch) -> Avengers: Infinity War (Tobias Funke appeared in the background as an easter egg) -> the rest of the MCU
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May 9, 2020 04:22
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christmas boots posted:IIRC there was a musical number that was pretty cringey, but well-intentioned cringe is hardly on the same level as some of the scummy stuff lovely people get up to. Per an interview with Clemmons: quote:
Bear in mind this was when people were still being arrested for sodomy, and an arrest like that would have killed the show. Clemmons has said that Rogers wasn’t homophobic, but didn’t want to get pulled off the air.
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May 9, 2020 04:40
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Per an interview with Clemmons: A recent biography claims that Fred Rogers offered to set him up on dates with gay dudes he or his friends knew if Clemmons promised to look for a relationship that would end up in lifelong monogamy like a marriage would. I mean, it was the 60s, when it was considered radical for Fred and Clemmons to put their feet together in the same inflatable pool while on television. Fred Rogers: a true radical willing to smush his feet together with a gay black cop. But I guess we can’t judge him too hard for the last thing, since Officer Clemmons was only pretending to be a cop.
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May 9, 2020 04:48
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haha it is loving RICH to see people like us litigate the slightest potential character blemishes of other people
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May 9, 2020 04:49
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I'm pretty sure John Munch appeared in The Wire once which was kind of off-putting.
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Pick posted:haha it is loving RICH to see people like us litigate the slightest potential character blemishes of other people I think it’s remarkable that a person even older than my parents was able to not end up a loving horrible bigot when I’m positive that the only reason my parents were terrified of gay people and black people and I’m not is that I had gay and black friends as a kid and they didn’t. Mister Rogers was better than me.
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May 9, 2020 04:53
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:A recent biography claims that Fred Rogers offered to set him up on dates with gay dudes he or his friends knew if Clemmons promised to look for a relationship that would end up in lifelong monogamy like a marriage would. Yeah, Rogers was pretty radical for the time and to his credit he wasn’t even one of those people who are radical for their time but then stay where they are as the world moves around them, from what I understand he was still growing through the end of his life. I hear what Pick is saying, but I find it really encouraging that I can try and nitpick Rogers’s flaws and find that he still holds up almost perfectly.
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May 9, 2020 05:23
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I think it’s remarkable that a person even older than my parents was able to not end up a loving horrible bigot when I’m positive that the only reason my parents were terrified of gay people and black people and I’m not is that I had gay and black friends as a kid and they didn’t. Mister Rogers was better than me. Dude was so nice that car thieves stole his car and returned it when they found out it was his. In Philly. The city known for sports fans that whip batteries at Santa during Hockey season and had a dude arrested for intentionally vomiting on a child.
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May 9, 2020 05:23
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Dude was so nice that car thieves stole his car and returned it when they found out it was his. In Philly. The city known for sports fans that whip batteries at Santa during Hockey season and had a dude arrested for intentionally vomiting on a child.
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May 9, 2020 05:41
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mind the walrus posted:Pittsburgh, and the story is pretty apocryphal. Awwww, disappointing. Though giving Philly some poo poo made being wrong worth it.
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May 9, 2020 05:56
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Kitty Pryde loves finding excuses to say the n-word. It lands exactly as flat every loving time: I'd like to point out that I'm in no way excusing that stupidity, but I have to wonder how many people did try to excuse it with, "Excuse me, but you do know that she's Jewish."
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May 9, 2020 06:04
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I'd like to point out that I'm in no way excusing that stupidity, but I have to wonder how many people did try to excuse it with, "Excuse me, but you do know that she's Jewish." Oh, so on top of all that she's a shonda?!
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May 9, 2020 06:06
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May 9, 2020 06:09
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Welcome to the desert of the real.
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May 9, 2020 06:20
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Henchman of Santa posted:I'm pretty sure John Munch appeared in The Wire once which was kind of off-putting. Munch cameos on the wire despite being based off of Jay Landsman who was already a character on the show and also the actual real life Jay Landsman shows up playing a different character.
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May 9, 2020 06:37
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rodbeard posted:Munch cameos on the wire despite being based off of Jay Landsman who was already a character on the show and also the actual real life Jay Landsman shows up playing a different character. That's a bit too Munch!
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May 9, 2020 06:38
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Pick posted:shes not a real person. she's imaginary actually Yes, but a real person wrote her so someone's still a sinner. Absurd Alhazred posted:That's a bit too Munch! That's too Munch, man!
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Zaroff posted:Did they explain what his deal was? I remember there was a point made about how he seemed to have a lot more money than a cop should, driving flashy cars and so on, but don't remember any explanation as to why (IIRC there were rumours of him being paid off by the mob?) He was in the not-Chef Boyardee family and embarrassed about where the money came from.
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Sir Lemming posted:Wow more like Kitty Prejudice Kitty Pryde, more like Kitty Prejudice should be the new thread title and it’s not even close.
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May 9, 2020 10:23
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I'd like to point out that I'm in no way excusing that stupidity, but I have to wonder how many people did try to excuse it with, "Excuse me, but you do know that she's Jewish." Considering this is X-Men we're just lucky her superpower isn't something like, she's able to light menorahs with her mind or some poo poo
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oldpainless posted:The best part of B99 is that now in the last season or two it’s clear that Holt is by far the craziest person on the squad That show has (had?) serious problems with Flanderisation. Barely got through a single season before characters became tedious "Greatest Hits" caricatures of themselves.
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May 9, 2020 12:36
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artsy fartsy posted:The main thing I remember is a scene where one of the nerds was either hacking a computer or trying to stop their computer being hacked by pounding away at a keyboard, but they weren't doing it fast enough, so another nerd started typing on the same keyboard at the same time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ
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Tiggum posted:Oh, you mean the best scene there has ever been or will ever be on any TV show ever? I personally think it's rivaled by the scene in CSI where they're interrogating a suspect in an MMO, and the character's avatar makes a break for it, so they have a chase scene. In the MMO.
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rydiafan posted:I personally think it's rivaled by the scene in CSI where they're interrogating a suspect in an MMO, and the character's avatar makes a break for it, so they have a chase scene. In the MMO.  Also, I realised that I forgot about this absolutely incredible explanation of IRC from Numb3rs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
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