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I do have a conspiracy theory that I believe in, like, 75% unironically, that as soon as stores introduced self-checkout aisles they also started intentionally teaching baggers to bag groceries poorly.
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steinrokkan posted:I fundamentally disagree with the idea that if we abolished the lowest ranking, most pointless jobs, it would cause unemployment because companies wouldn't hire those people anymore. Capitalism is adverse to leaving too much excess labor unutilized, they would find other outlets. Those new jobs wouldn't be great either, but still probably better. lol if we actually wanted to get rid of pointless jobs we should start with management, not bagboys and gas jockeys.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lol if we actually wanted to get rid of pointless jobs we'd start with management. The many levels of management is one of the ways how society deals with the results of eliminating these pointless menial jobs. If we live in a system where everybody needs to have a job for some dumb reason, it's preferable to give them some stupid job where they pretend to watch numbers and read emails. In practice we would just let people do whatever, but the fact that this isn't currently feasible for political reasons doesn't mean we have to put up with jobs that only exist because people are cruel and selfish. steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 01:12 on May 10, 2020 |
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May 10, 2020 01:08
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lol if we actually wanted to get rid of pointless jobs we should start with management, not bagboys and gas jockeys. By having more cart-wranglers and bag-packers, managers justify their existence. The fewer people there are to manage, the fewer managers are needed. When only one person works at a garage, they can self-manage, if there are also a couple of gas jockeys, a toilet attendant, a slushy machine operator, a barista, etc, that's how you get two more managers in there.
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May 10, 2020 01:18
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sheng ji do you leave your shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot
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Well yeah, anyone who's paid attention to a classroom or something knows that both good or bad behavior spreads by proximity. The difference would be though that the police theoretically get to choose who is in their organization. Edit: but sometimes bad behavior spreads from the teacher downward and then all the students are hosed. Samurai Sanders has issued a correction as of 01:28 on May 10, 2020 |
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May 10, 2020 01:26
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steinrokkan posted:Are you loving making GBS threads me Have you been outside the US? Here in NZ and also in Australia they absolutely employ people to bring in trolleys often a few fill time positions depending on the size of the store. If not they will randomly send a checkout person to do it. Also people leaving trolleys just anywhere in the car park won’t inspire management to employ more of them. Instead they will just yell at them to bring them in faster and blame them for any cars which get dinged by a wild trolley. This whole argument goes back to the broken window fallacy.
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Varkk posted:Have you been outside the US? Here in NZ and also in Australia they absolutely employ people to bring in trolleys often a few fill time positions depending on the size of the store. If not they will randomly send a checkout person to do it. Also people leaving trolleys just anywhere in the car park won’t inspire management to employ more of them. Instead they will just yell at them to bring them in faster and blame them for any cars which get dinged by a wild trolley. This whole argument goes back to the broken window fallacy. OK, so it's not just US thing, it's an Anglo thing. As somebody not from the US, I assure you that nowhere in continental Europe will you find anything comparable. Once again, being an Anglo amounts to a crime against humanity that should be erased by nuclear fire.
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May 10, 2020 01:34
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yeah, how many countries even hyave these huge mega-markets instead of a bunch of smaller ones? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hypermarkets many
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Hypermarkets in many countries have nothing to do with the monstrosities you have. They are just supermarkets with some additional aisles that sell household items other than groceries.
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May 10, 2020 02:02
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steinrokkan posted:Hypermarkets in many countries have nothing to do with the monstrosities you have. They are just supermarkets with some additional aisles that sell household items other than groceries. Alot of them are, Carrefour is just as bad as Walmart or Target in alot of their stores.
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i put my cart away because i used to put carts away for a living and it sucked getting all the stragglers left all over the lot
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GoutPatrol posted:Alot of them are, Carrefour is just as bad as Walmart or Target in alot of their stores. Perhaps. But you can't take a list of "hypermarkets" and claim they are all just Walmarts.
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May 10, 2020 02:37
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this is my favorite derail in weeks
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also on weekends especially you'd definitely have one or two people on carts all day. this was at a regular supermarket (jewel). it was union at least, i got like $1 above minimum wage as a 16 year old with "i mow my neighbors lawn" as my resume, and you could actually legitimately move up and have a career
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THS posted:this is my favorite derail in weeks If you put the thread back on track yourself, you're taking away employment opportunity from the mods.
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Goon Boots posted:If you put the thread back on track yourself, you're taking away employment opportunity from the mods. 
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May 10, 2020 02:45
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literally the same argument as people who don't bus their table at Taco Bell because they're "stimulating the economy"
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May 10, 2020 02:48
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I know in Canada we're just as hosed as the US.
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Gripweed posted:I do have a conspiracy theory that I believe in, like, 75% unironically, that as soon as stores introduced self-checkout aisles they also started intentionally teaching baggers to bag groceries poorly. its because they hate their jobs op actually bagging was less poo poo when it was busy because sometimes you could feel like you were playing a real life tetris game for a few minutes, but it still sucked
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May 10, 2020 03:53
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Honestly it's great without the eh attempt to make it a biden meme Blessed video
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May 10, 2020 03:53
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I tried cross stitch today. Did two sides of a square to put things in and had an idea 
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May 10, 2020 04:04
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anecdotal but being a bag boy and cart bitch helped my family keep food on the table through high school i do not have strong feelings about the Shopping Cart Issue
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May 10, 2020 04:14
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Leaving my cart in the grass on the opposite side of the parking lot? Praaaxis~~
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Gripweed posted:Shopping carts were originally invented because a grocery store owner noticed that the time people spent in his store had a hard limit of when their arms got tired from holding their shopping basket. To fix that he could've hired more workers to carry people's shopping for them. Instead he put the labor onto his customers. If you don't understand why that's completely impractical you've never been a grocer that caters to rural folk Fuckers load their shopping carts pass the brim, you'd need half a dozen people to carry all their poo poo
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May 10, 2020 04:43
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"coworkers sometimes get hung up on things"
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Idc if you think you're making a political point by leaving your cart in the middle of the parking lot you're forcing me to leave my aisle to go collect it, and in that moment you're Hitler incarnate to me. Also cashiers at grocers will still push your cart out to your car for you, you just have to ask 
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May 10, 2020 04:47
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reading the glassdoor reviews for Venom Snakes diamond dogs outfit and being unimpressed by the promotion potential in your first 5
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May 10, 2020 04:48
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steinrokkan posted:The sad thing is, I've actually heard that argument about cooking for yourself used unironically on more than one occasion. “The only moral lifestyle is my lifestyle”, I continue to insist, as my lungs turn into overripe watermelon.
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idk my buddy in high school said the nicest thing you could do for grocery store workers was leave your carts all over the place because collecting them was the only task you could get that was chill also shut the gently caress up about shopping carts
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If you expropriate shopping carts off the property completely you could give them to homeless people, wheel an entire stack on down to the shelter
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Leaving my cart in the grass on the opposite side of the parking lot? Praaaxis~~ i get this is a joke but i never said this poo poo. Its like tipping, you can recognize a system sucks for both workers and customers and only benefits the owner without being an rear end in a top hat about it and not tipping. im not saying everyone should be a dick and leave your cart in traffic or something, just recognize this is another minor piece of normalizing replacing paid labor with guilting customers into doing it for free, like self checkout poo poo
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i get this is a joke but i never said this poo poo. Its like tipping, you can recognize a system sucks for both workers and customers and only benefits the owner without being an rear end in a top hat about it and not tipping. im not saying everyone should be a dick and leave your cart in traffic or something, just recognize this is another minor piece of normalizing replacing paid labor with guilting customers into doing it for free, like self checkout poo poo Lmao
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