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Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Thanatosian posted:

Look, dude generally makes good videos; I'm definitely not endorsing everything he says (I don't buy a lot of what he has to say about holding and keeping power), but this video, his Brexit videos, and the several he did about electoral systems are all solid.

He just kinda sorta regurgitated “the Logic of political survival”/“dictators handbook” which is an actual academic theory that came from using game theory to make predictions about politics. It’s called selectorate theory.

Logic of Political survival is basically a giant math-y book that really lays it out while dictators handbook is a very easy to read summary of it but they cover the same concept and have the same authors.

I think it’s actually extremely important to understand because it directly undermines every authoritarian ideology and fascism in particular and explains exactly why they’re so bad. It’s a purely structural approach to political theory, which explains exactly why that (usually right wing but not always) dangerous belief that “if we just took power our character and morals are just so much better we’d fix all the problems.”

And basically, the logical conclusion of the theory is that if you want a prosperous and just society you need to decentralize and break up power and wealth whenever possible and ensure as many people as possible are as fully enfranchised as possible.

It also explains why the US is rapidly moving in the direction of for the average citizen becoming the shittiest of nations that can be considered actual democracies because of wealth inequality, voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering, and how disconnected voter preferences are from voter outcomes.

It’s a lot more nuanced than previous theories that basically boiled down to democracy good dictatorship bad
, because unlike previous binary ideas the logic applies equally, granularly and without having and arbitrary cutoff where the rules all change.

It also explains why revolutionaries behavior prior to taking power often has little to do with how they behave once they’re there.

Butter Activities has issued a correction as of 05:01 on May 28, 2020

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Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005

purple death ray posted:

You can tell because mickey has a 5 o clock shadow and is constantly smoking a big rear end joint

Oh, that's a different Mickey



Underground comix artists looooved trolling the poo poo out of Disney

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

SpaceSDoorGunner posted:

He just kinda sorta regurgitated “the Logic of political survival”/“dictators handbook” which is an actual academic theory that came from using game theory to make predictions about politics. It’s called selectorate theory.

Logic of Political survival is basically a giant math-y book that really lays it out while dictators handbook is a very easy to read summary of it but they cover the same concept and have the same authors.

I think it’s actually extremely important to understand because it directly undermines every authoritarian ideology and fascism in particular and explains exactly why they’re so bad. It’s a purely structural approach to political theory, which explains exactly why that (usually right wing but not always) dangerous belief that “if we just took power our character and morals are just so much better we’d fix all the problems.”

so its Machiavellis The Prince, but with math?

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Rutibex posted:

so its Machiavellis The Prince, but with math?

Mathiavelli was right there

duck.exe
Apr 14, 2012

Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/post_hog/status/1266093109164859392?s=21

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus



Thats a photoshop right? Right? :negative:

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde

Rutibex posted:

so its Machiavellis The Prince, but with math?

the idea is that in an organization where a lot of people have influence on who is in charge, the ruler has to uphold the common good to stay in power

whereas if only a few people have that influence, the ruler has to spend his resources buying them off, which means making GBS threads on everyone else

it's a more technical, developed theory though in that the character of a regime depends on the relative sizes of three groups:

the people who can vote, the people who's vote actually matters, and the people who actually keep the regime in power

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

The Dictator's Handbook is pretty good if your like me and can't Maths.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

https://twitter.com/LilyCardis/status/1266217997766504448

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology



i am not 100% sure this is real since i can't find it anywhere

their ceo is a complete idiot and suspected chud but still

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

cash crab posted:

i am not 100% sure this is real since i can't find it anywhere

their ceo is a complete idiot and suspected chud but still

All CEO's are chuds. Some use leftish rhetoric to sell poo poo and others are more honest about how hosed up they are.

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pictured, a Firewall, per my yearly training due to boomers being unable to understand basic computer security:

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005



Well why did the CNN news team antagonize the cops by...

*hacky checks notes gag*

Reporting accurately on their actions?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1266335781775380480?s=19

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Lmfao we're all fuckin doomed

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Lmao ok I'm out

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Cool this actually is the 28 Days Later timeline

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 243 days!

Shrecknet posted:

Well why did the CNN news team antagonize the cops by...

*hacky checks notes gag*

Reporting accurately on their actions?

you'd think, but they let a white reporter alone after he said he was a reporter

so no, these dumb shits who probably still haven't thought to turn the camera off yet literally arrested him for being black

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 243 days!

i think i saw this one- 28 days later, right? good movie, so glad we aren't in a bad film.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Hodgepodge posted:

i think i saw this one- 28 days later, right? good movie, so glad we aren't in a bad film.

I mean we have already kind of seen the rage zombies out with the chud rallys and what not.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Nature got a taste of just how much better things are when we stay indoors and these monkeys are the first wave of its insurgent force.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
In 28 days later the activists catch the virus from the monkeys...

The monkeys catching it from us is exactly what I'd expect from this timeline.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

The cops who arrested the reporter even talked about destroying the tape in the camera live on CNN.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


https://twitter.com/oliviasolon/status/1266419003087618048

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


vampires could simply buy blood from blood brokers

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


That's a million bucks per liter and would make me a bit nervous if I was a covid survivor

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNOzVkvRU1w

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

Welp CNN reporter gets arrested on live TV made me crack ping.

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



I'm guessing the cops singled out CNN because they see them as "that hippie left wing news outlet" and thought they were putting smug liberals in their place. They don't even realize they were loving with someone on their team.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Every week, planes drop 14.7 million sterilized screwworms over the rainforest that divides [Panama and Colombia]

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Koishi Komeiji posted:

I'm guessing the cops singled out CNN because they see them as "that hippie left wing news outlet" and thought they were putting smug liberals in their place. They don't even realize they were loving with someone on their team.

Didn't ask who they were. They got the only black and hispanic people there. Left the white reporters alone.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

aphid_licker posted:

That's a million bucks per liter and would make me a bit nervous if I was a covid survivor

It’s a figure that means that the average person is worth more dead than alive.

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 02:28 on May 30, 2020

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

I'm dumb how does dropping sterilized ones help? The other ones waste time mating with them?

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Platystemon posted:

It’s a figure that means that the average person worth more dead than alive.

FEMA places the average human life at $1.74 million, and and adult has somewhere between 4.5-5.5 liters of blood in them

So worth a whole lot more dead.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Cuntellectual posted:

I'm dumb how does dropping sterilized ones help? The other ones waste time mating with them?

Yeah. They have evolved to mate once, then die. A true self-own.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Cuntellectual posted:

I'm dumb how does dropping sterilized ones help? The other ones waste time mating with them?

Not just time - screwworm females can only mate once, so they produce 0 fertile offspring from 400ish eggs if they mate with a sterile male.

efb

Tulip has issued a correction as of 02:33 on May 30, 2020

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

withak posted:

Yeah. They have evolved to mate once, then die. A true self-own.

I'm going to live forever

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

quote:

He and his colleagues hiked up and down mountains, sometimes in pouring rain, to check traps baited with a chemical attractant called Swormlure.

“Swormlure” is a good name for a low fantasy setting.

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
You know, this is really starting to feel like the cyberpunk dystopia I was promised. Not enough neon though

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