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Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
so a few hours ago I mentioned the botched Houston drug raid that left two murdered by police hands, 4 police shot(likely by their own) and the officer responsible, Gerald Goines, now facing felony murder charges for fabricating this and virtually his entire career. well, we connected the timelines, he had arrested George Floyd previously in Houston.

https://twitter.com/stjbs/status/1267589620348391428?s=20

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PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

hobbesmaster posted:

I don't know what the height velocity curve looks like for a blackhawk but that seems likely to be in one of the "engine failure is unrecoverable" zones of it?

That's why the Blackhawks have two engines.

Depending on the conditions that can hover with one engine. And even if it can't hovet with that one engine it can fly away with one engine.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Hovering for extended periods is already a bad idea. Ask any helicopter pilot.

I don't know where you got this but it's incorrect. Source: I'm a helicopter flight engineer.

Also those rotors are producing so much downwash neither cardboard nor balloons would ever get near them. It's super dumb of them to be hovering below the rooftops in a city where poles and wires could be (especially at night), but that's about it.

hobbesmaster posted:

I don't know what the height velocity curve looks like for a blackhawk but that seems likely to be in one of the "engine failure is unrecoverable" zones of it?

The height/velocity curve for a slick blackhawk wouldn't be too bad and if they poo poo an engine they would be able to land relatively safely from that altitude, or depending on the area in front of them, get to safe single engine airspeed.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



BIG HEADLINE posted:

Hovering for extended periods is already a bad idea. Ask any helicopter pilot.

Certainly true for Hinds, anyway.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Riot Carol Danvers posted:

The height/velocity curve for a slick blackhawk wouldn't be too bad and if they poo poo an engine they would be able to land relatively safely from that altitude, or depending on the area in front of them, get to safe single engine airspeed.

I'm worried about that "land relatively safely" part because theres a packed street below them, buildings, powerlines, etc.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

Riot Carol Danvers posted:

I don't know where you got this but it's incorrect. Source: I'm a helicopter flight engineer.

Also those rotors are producing so much downwash neither cardboard nor balloons would ever get near them. It's super dumb of them to be hovering below the rooftops in a city where poles and wires could be (especially at night), but that's about it.

Cardboard balloons or what have you could still get up there because the rotor system is recirculating all that air.

A Black Hawk and a Lakota don't put it put out as much rotor wash as a chinook so it's a little different ballgame.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
just use lasers like any reasonable HK citizen :colbert:

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Fair enough about hovering - that low you'd be aided by ground effect.

Anyway, have an uplifting moment shared to me by a friend that I haven't seen posted yet: https://twitter.com/Unnamedinsider/status/1267415249197641730

EDIT: Evidently this is from a year ago. Time for me to check out because I'm getting punchy. Hope the world's still around ~5 hours from now.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jun 2, 2020

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Fair enough about hovering - that low you'd be aided by ground effect.

Anyway, have an uplifting moment shared to me by a friend that I haven't seen posted yet: https://twitter.com/Unnamedinsider/status/1267415249197641730

Thats from over a year ago.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

hobbesmaster posted:

Thats from over a year ago.

Ugh. -_-

Alaan
May 24, 2005

https://twitter.com/jackmjenkins/status/1267644542762864641?s=20

So mr. president jesus lover in his rush to have a great photo op tear gassed a priest of that church.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

Alaan posted:

https://twitter.com/jackmjenkins/status/1267644542762864641?s=20

So mr. president jesus lover in his rush to have a great photo op tear gassed a priest of that church.

Oh it's like he gives a gently caress. He got the photo he needed for his campaign, that's all he cared about.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

oh fun, lets get the catholics in as a player in all this

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Also, don't forget that Catholics are idolators to red-blooded gawd-fearin' 'Murican Krischtchins.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

my ex wife was baptist, im a catholic in as much as i was confirmed and got expelled from a catholic high school



i was treated like a wizard at her church events

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Gassing a priest sure is something

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Thought it was a episcopal church.

Alaan
May 24, 2005

It's definitely not Catholic because they have a female bishop. Catholics still believe since Jesus never EXPLICITLY said women could be priests that they can't.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Fallom posted:

Gassing a priest sure is something

as a lapsed catholic i experienced blinding rage the moment i read the tweet for an instant

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
It's episcopalian.

Catholic lite

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

episcopal are the catholics cool cousins

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

It's episcopalian.

Catholic lite

hey brah

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Be prepared
Fun Shoe
Twitter dump:

https://twitter.com/AllThingsNatSec/status/1267652027032588288?s=19
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1267603752938332163?s=19
https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1267645250102755330?s=19
https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1267462134528688133?s=19
https://twitter.com/BettyBowers/status/1267657625623240712?s=19
https://twitter.com/AlexWardVox/status/1267653772605566978?s=19

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Yeah it's an Episcopal church. I'm friends with a lot of Episcopals and they are piiiiiiiissed.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

I think Episcopals are mostly boomer libs these days so I doubt this will bother any Trump supporters.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1267646798761517058

The "double tap strike" tactics have made it state side.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Lapsed catholic here too. My exwifes' family was Southern catholic, which is in itself a whole different experience from the predominantly german style catholic torture fests I sat through as a child.

There is no god. I don't know how so many people don't see it, but there's a definite fog of dogma there with catholics, episcopalians, seventh day adventists, mormons, etc, etc (mormons are usually most chill).

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

PeterCat posted:

Cardboard balloons or what have you could still get up there because the rotor system is recirculating all that air.

A Black Hawk and a Lakota don't put it put out as much rotor wash as a chinook so it's a little different ballgame.

Dude I'm a flight engineer on an H-60. I've seen random pieces of debris get recirculated into the rotor system but it usually happens on the ground. In a hover the downwash is nuts.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Be prepared
Fun Shoe

shame on an IGA posted:

Well there it went we're all gonna get death squadded

:nms: but tweet embeds don't spoiler tag so don't click through unless you wanna see somebody plow through a dozen or so cops at speed

:nms:
https://twitter.com/YousefNH2/statu...ingawful.com%2F
:nms:

As a former LEO, I've watched this a few times, and I can't come away from it with anything but indifference. The heavy handedness, the attacking peaceful protesters, journalists... they've honestly brought this on themselves, and it honestly goes to show how much restraint people have that this hasn't happened more.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

@ crusty i know, and i hate everything the church has done to gently caress millions of people over

that being said the easiest part of my dad's death was the funeral itself. just because i knew the process and was in a place i felt was appropriate and fitting and it did give some relief to have that in place as a temporary break from dealing with poo poo

and my priest growing up was legit a really awesome person who was kind and fantastically interesting. i was as altar boy through 8th grade- none of the cassocks fit me or my youngest sister since we were both pushing 6 ft then and we towered over the 5'3 priest. He said he liked having bodyguards and would call me when i still lived in town to help him troubleshoot the churchbell computer system

my dad did k-12 in catholic school and did two years of college before going into the seminary for a year. pretty sure my older sister stopped that dream.

i got booted from an all boys private catholic high school sophomore year for weed and was punished by being allowed to wear jeans and see girls all day everyday

so yes. this is triggering.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007




I listened to this today and it was kind of an eye opener. I had read On Killing a number of years ago and didn't think it was terrible, but that was as far as I went with him. I remember him doing some yelling at clouds stuff about video games back when Jack Thompson was doing his thing, but I didn't know he'd gone full ~*sHeEpDoG*~ and was fronting that to LE. In hindsight I guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

Alaan
May 24, 2005

As the episode started I was like "Huuuh that name rings a bell. Wait did this guy write On Killing? Oh lord it is"

I'd generally heard it favorably referred to but uh yeah glad I never took a look after this episode. All his other ideas are "What if I did the OPPOSITE of what the consensus from psychologists and sociologists is"

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Be prepared
Fun Shoe

Midjack posted:

I listened to this today and it was kind of an eye opener. I had read On Killing a number of years ago and didn't think it was terrible, but that was as far as I went with him. I remember him doing some yelling at clouds stuff about video games back when Jack Thompson was doing his thing, but I didn't know he'd gone full ~*sHeEpDoG*~ and was fronting that to LE. In hindsight I guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

The only parts of that book that are useful (On Combat, or On Killing - there's a lot of overlap) are the parts about the science of Body Alarm Reaction, perceptual distortions during fight or flight scenarios, etc. And all of that is taken from other books and research by people who actually did scientific research - actual academics that study neurology, physiology, officer involved shootings, etc. Everything I read in both books on those topics was stated better elsewhere in books or academic journal articles.

The rest of the books were the sheepdog bullshit, terribly done research, the anti video game horseshit, and other random other poo poo I forgot about.

Maarak
May 23, 2007

"Go for it!"
Did his books ever explore the possibility of the sheepdog eating the sheep?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
https://twitter.com/PDPJ/status/1267676130984763393

Big CE Thread energy

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013
Do... do the guys at the top, Barr and Trump and the CJCS, do they actually believe there is an armed organized violent domestic terror group called Antifa? Like, that’s loving insane.

I live in MAGA country, and a well off part of it at that, so no real protests or demonstrations here. But.. people in my towns FB group seriously think there are Antifa soldiers (or often enough they call them socialists. VoV) living amongst us and waiting to kill and loot and rob.

It’s like everyone to the right end of the spectrum is just down for believing inane dumb bullshit.

AND WHO THE gently caress CAN SERIOUSLY DENOUNCE A GROUP THAT IS ANTI FASCIST? It’s good people on both sides when klansmen get outta line but there’s people going after klansmen and white nationalists? ANTIFA SUPER SOLDIER TERRORISTS!!!

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
remember the traitor obelisk in Birmingham that the nice archaeologist lady gave instructions on how to bring down? well protesters tried and failed, but damaged it enough that its being removed by construction crews this very minute

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1267684108064391170?s=20

Alaan
May 24, 2005

barr absolutely does not believe but is totally fine with the fiction to cement more power because he's an absolute monster.

Trump might. It's hard to tell when he's just being cynical and when he's dumb as a brick. It's mostly the latter but sometimes his manipulation/graft skill is functioning.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
It's okay Butts, we all recover at our own pace.


Weed helps.

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Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

It's okay Butts, we all recover at our own pace.


Weed helps.

im at peace with it, i consider myself a cultural catholic by upbringing and just figured id never know if god is real or not so why waste my time wondering and just be a good person morally


or at the very least not an rear end in a top hat

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