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Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS

TommyGun85 posted:

I mean they also own a top military warship that 3 different governments just let them keep for no good reason. The legal battle over it in Book 3 is absurd as is the way in which its resolved.

How did the books resolve it (if it won't spoil anything not yet in the show)? The show so far just mentions that Avasarala made the legal trouble go away.

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Sarern
Nov 4, 2008

:toot:
Won't you take me to
Bomertown?
Won't you take me to
BONERTOWN?

:toot:

Slashrat posted:

How did the books resolve it (if it won't spoil anything not yet in the show)? The show so far just mentions that Avasarala made the legal trouble go away.

Pastor Anna gets a rich friend to buy it from Mars as a favor. It's gifted to the crew as payment for escorting Clarissa to Earth for trial. I think the show is well past that now.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Yeah, I just assumed the combination of them saving the solar system twice and MRCN decomissioning everything along with Avarsala advocating for them made Mars just say fine, keep it.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Its legitimate salvage

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Phi230 posted:

Its legitimate salvage

That line did so much heavy lifting it won an Ironman competition

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Phi230 posted:

Its legitimate salvage

I like how the show even had the visual gag over having the ornate plaque on the ship.

Also the loyal Rocci crew were just saving a piece of martian history given how a majority of MCRN got decommissioned after the Gate peace treaty.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
Every time I do a rewatch, it jumps out at me in the penultimate episode of season 3, Drummer's not got her smokey eye make-up when she wakes up with her busted back, but she does have it when Naomi comes to see her. Wonder if it's a simple continuity mistake or she's just that committed to the look that it was the first thing she did before trying to get back on her feet?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

davidspackage posted:

Every time I do a rewatch, it jumps out at me in the penultimate episode of season 3, Drummer's not got her smokey eye make-up when she wakes up with her busted back, but she does have it when Naomi comes to see her. Wonder if it's a simple continuity mistake or she's just that committed to the look that it was the first thing she did before trying to get back on her feet?

Look into heart, you know it's the latter.


Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
The latter falls within her character actions quite nicely

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!
I was really unhappy with Season 1, in part because Avasarala wasn't written or played as the foul-mouthed force of nature she is in the novels, but I'm glad I stuck with it. Season 2 was a huge step-up over season 1.

One thing that the books consistently do better than the show is the action scenes. You'd think they would be better in a visual medium but due to time and budget constraints the TV show's fight scenes are brief and serve to move the story along. For example, the Clarissa Mao/Naomi fight in season 3 is a quick two minute fight with no real consequences while in the book it's a vicious back and forth that takes place over 1549 words that leaves Naomi seriously wounded.

TommyGun85 posted:

e: also, Alex is reaaaallly underserved in the books, which is a shame. The actor has done a great job making him feel a part of the family because he is barely present in the books so far. Im hoping that changes moving forward. I have not read any of the short stories.
Generally the novellas flesh out a side of the world that the main novels don't focus on, e.g. Gods of Risk explains on what life is like on Mars for the average person, the Vital Abyss what life is like on basic (and introduces Cortozar), etc. They're obliquely referred to by later novels but aren't essential to understanding the narrative. I think The Churn is different as a significant part of book 5 depends on knowing what happened in the Churn.

I almost stopped reading the books after book 6's entire last ~200 pages were just downright boring, but the novella after it, Strange Dogs, was so weird and wonderful that I was motivated to read the last two.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
is the last book out?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

scary ghost dog posted:

is the last book out?

no, no release date other than "2020."

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
Cas Anvar is going a bit stir crazy from the quarantine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XgY7AlQv_s

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Cas Anvar is going a bit stir crazy from the quarantine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XgY7AlQv_s

Cas Anvar irl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKtBiIhrBM

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Am I crazy or didn't the show used to be in 4K? Because I'm watching it on Amazon Prime and it's in 1080P, and doesn't even seem to be in HDR.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

When I look on a web browser they actually have separate entries for the HD version and 4k version. It's like they are categorized as different shows. The Prime UI is so hosed.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Well that's good to know since I'm rewatching it with my partner!

She has noooo idea what she's in for, we just finished the ep where Holden and Miller get hit with the radiation and she was like "okay I think they're testing the bioweapon on all those people, and the radiation is them trying to find a cure so they can hold everyone ransom with this doomsday bioweapon" and I'm sitting there like :allears:

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Mu Zeta posted:

When I look on a web browser they actually have separate entries for the HD version and 4k version. It's like they are categorized as different shows. The Prime UI is so hosed.

Yeah, looks like I can find the 4K HDR versions on the US Prime website, but not on the Finnish one, so maybe the 4K versions are only available in some regions for some loving dumb bullshit reason.

And they wonder why people pirate poo poo.

CainsDescendant
Dec 6, 2007

Human nature




Johnny Truant posted:

Well that's good to know since I'm rewatching it with my partner!

She has noooo idea what she's in for, we just finished the ep where Holden and Miller get hit with the radiation and she was like "okay I think they're testing the bioweapon on all those people, and the radiation is them trying to find a cure so they can hold everyone ransom with this doomsday bioweapon" and I'm sitting there like :allears:

That's awesome, I remember how excited I got when I realized that it wasn't just some bioweapon.

Also yeah I also recently found out about the separate listing for 4k and I've been rewatching some eps to take advantage of it. It's absurd how many details they stuff into every scene. I went back and looked at all of the bios on Julie's space tinder and was not disappointed

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Don't forget Chrisjen's autocorrect on her phone thing

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Yeah I've been keeping an eye out for stuff that I missed on my other watches of the show



CainsDescendant posted:

That's awesome, I remember how excited I got when I realized that it wasn't just some bioweapon.

Yeah she missed the "we need to let it learn so we're can learn more about it" line I think and has noooo idea what's about to happen next ep :yum:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mu Zeta posted:

Don't forget Chrisjen's autocorrect on her phone thing

The best visual gag was the walk in closet one.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

etalian posted:

The best visual gag was the walk in closet one.

when was this?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

double nine posted:

when was this?

I think it was the most recent season in which this a quick shot in the background which shows she has a huge walk-in closet.

Tequila25
May 12, 2001
Ask me about tapioca.

double nine posted:

when was this?

S04E08 - The One-Eyed Man, while she is getting ready to give a speech about the outcome of the marine mission.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
I mean if the show wanted to make the point that Avasarala was completely out of touch with the common folk of Earth then their point got across.

TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013
Just finished Book 5 and I have to say it makes me excited for Season 5. The books up to that point were extremely light (almost non existant) when it came to characterization of the Roci crew, and much of what makes B5 interesting was already peppered throughout the first 4 season of the show to develop the characters. Im not sure how the pandemic is affecting production, but hopefully we'll get to see it.

kerwyn
Aug 21, 2007
They were in post when the pandemic hit so assuming all the VFX can be done remotely we'll hopefully get a season this fall/winter

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Yeah hopefully post can be done remotely. I'd bet it's more likely to delay season six since who knows when they'll be able to film again.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




My partner's various opinions on the best character:

episode 1: omg Holden is so hot. Amos? wtf he's weird.
episode 4: aww i really like Shed, he and Alex make a great team
episode 5: okay i'm on team Amos now
episode 7: :swoon: AMOOOOOOOOOOS
episode 8: okay look i didn't think Holden was THAT HOT at the beginning of the show, gosh he sucks
episode 10: :syoon: :swoon: AMOOOOOOOOOOS :swoon: :syoon:

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Grand Fromage posted:

Yeah hopefully post can be done remotely. I'd bet it's more likely to delay season six since who knows when they'll be able to film again.

The writers Twitter account said they are still getting completed shots sent to them on a regular basis so post is definitely being done remotely.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Johnny Truant posted:

My partner's various opinions on the best character:

episode 1: omg Holden is so hot. Amos? wtf he's weird.
episode 4: aww i really like Shed, he and Alex make a great team
episode 5: okay i'm on team Amos now
episode 7: :swoon: AMOOOOOOOOOOS
episode 8: okay look i didn't think Holden was THAT HOT at the beginning of the show, gosh he sucks
episode 10: :syoon: :swoon: AMOOOOOOOOOOS :swoon: :syoon:

my wife's progression was about the same except she never liked Holden and thought he was an idiot. It was more Naomi -> Alex -> Amos for 3.5 seasons.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009

Johnny Truant posted:

My partner's various opinions on the best character:

episode 1: omg Holden is so hot. Amos? wtf he's weird.
episode 4: aww i really like Shed, he and Alex make a great team
episode 5: okay i'm on team Amos now
episode 7: :swoon: AMOOOOOOOOOOS
episode 8: okay look i didn't think Holden was THAT HOT at the beginning of the show, gosh he sucks
episode 10: :syoon: :swoon: AMOOOOOOOOOOS :swoon: :syoon:

wait until she finds out that he is that guy

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




SpookyLizard posted:

wait until she finds out that he is that guy

She got soooo salty at Amos when it seemed like he was following Semi's orders when they got onto the Roci, still at Eros

Then when Amos domed him she was full on :gary:

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Johnny Truant posted:

She got soooo salty at Amos when it seemed like he was following Semi's orders when they got onto the Roci, still at Eros

Then when Amos domed him she was full on :gary:

~that guy~

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Johnny Truant posted:

She got soooo salty at Amos when it seemed like he was following Semi's orders when they got onto the Roci, still at Eros

Then when Amos domed him she was full on :gary:

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

OB_Juan
Nov 24, 2004

Not every day is a good day.


Dinosaur Gum
I love that look Morty has right at the end of that. A sudden realization.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

OB_Juan posted:

I love that look Morty has right at the end of that. A sudden realization.

The bar faceoff scene was amazing along with all the Amos one liners, "Are we still loving?"

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Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
For whatever reason I've never been a big fan of any of Elizabeth Mitchell's characters in anything I've seen her in but IRL its turns out she's adorable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sFQkNiuBGg&t=794s

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