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Nonsense posted:Looks like COVID isn't over and is in fact even more dangerous in the summer heat christ 
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1271820444132421635 its hard to believe US healthcare is real to me thats like reading that the hospital executed him with a bazooka
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Nonsense posted:na im loving around, i broke my leg and my hospital bill was 1 week stay $220,000. Without insurance I guess my leg would have just gangrened and fallen off, no need for hospital easy peazy I’d ignore a cop just to slug an insurance CEO
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Nonsense posted:Looks like COVID isn't over and is in fact even more dangerous in the summer heat christ Its been known for 3 months that a/c is a huge part of spreading it and absolutely no one wanted to address that
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In Training posted:anybody have text on this, i'd like to read the full wapo story. you can use the umatrix extension on most browsers to disable the poo poo that blocks the wapo articles and basically gives you a plain text version of the web page Tension built for days between Florida Department of Health supervisors and the department’s geographic information systems manager before officials showed her the door, she says, permanently pulling her off the coronavirus dashboard that she operated for weeks. Managers had wanted Rebekah Jones to make certain changes to the public-facing portal, she says. Jones had objected to — and sometimes refused to comply with — what she saw as unethical requests. She says the department offered to let her resign. Jones declined. Weeks after she was fired in mid-May, Jones has now found a way to present the state’s coronavirus data exactly the way she wants it: She created a dashboard of her own. “I wanted to build an application that delivered data and helped people get tested and helped them get resources that they need from their community,” Jones, 30, said of the site that launched Thursday. “And that’s what I ended up building with this new dashboard.” White House coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx praised Florida’s official coronavirus dashboard in April as a beacon of transparency. But Jones has asserted that the site undercounts the state’s infection total and overcounts the number of people tested — with the official numbers bolstering the decision to start loosening restrictions on the economy in early May, when the state had not met federal guidelines for reopening. The competing opinions about how to frame Florida’s data underscore the importance of access to accurate information about the virus’s spread as the state continues to lift restrictions on public life. Among other data-related controversies, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) came under heavy scrutiny after Jones first alleged publicly that the health department was manipulating statistics to support his desire to reopen. The Florida governor’s office and the health department did not respond Friday to an email seeking comment on Jones’s new dashboard. In a previous statement, a spokeswoman for the governor said Jones “exhibited a repeated course of insubordination during her time with the Department, including her unilateral decisions to modify the Department’s COVID-19 dashboard without input or approval from the epidemiological team or her supervisors.” More than 100,000 Americans have died. This is how they lived and what was lost. Jones’s allegations about other managers’ requests are serious. She claimed they asked her to delete data showing that some residents tested positive for the coronavirus in January, even though DeSantis assured residents in March that there was no evidence of community spread. Jones also alleged that she was asked to manually change numbers to wrongly make counties appear to have met metrics for reopening. Despite the differences between the two dashboards, the site that Jones launched Thursday relies on the health department’s data. She said she wrote code that pulls information from various reports on the department’s website and presents the data in a way that she believes adds more context. Her dashboard also incorporates data from hospitals and from a volunteer organization that maps coronavirus testing sites. On Jones’s dashboard, the number of people tested is significantly lower than the official figure. She said the state’s number is actually a tally of the number of samples taken — not the number of people tested. Her dashboard said Florida had tested 895,947 people as of Friday evening, whereas the state dashboard listed the number of people tested as more than 1.3 million. Jones’s death toll is slightly higher because she counts nonresidents who died while they were in Florida, while the state does not. States take varied approaches in accounting for nonresidents who die there, as well as for residents who die while out of state. The case count on Jones’s dashboard is also higher because it includes people who have tested positive for antibodies, or proteins that indicate that the virus has been in someone’s body. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has warned that antibody tests are not foolproof and that a higher percentage of positive results may be incorrect in areas where few people have had the virus. In Jones’s eyes, the divergences from the state’s data site were necessary. “If you’re creating something that simply presents a very narrow view of a situation that’s complex and nuanced but affects everybody’s lives, then you’re not enabling them to take action, to take some semblance of control over what they’re going through,” she said of the state health department’s dashboard. Jones said she plans to keep her dashboard running, from her home in Tallahassee, for as long as it seems to be useful for residents and she can afford to do so. If a vaccine is developed, she said she wants her site to include information about distribution. The project has been neither easy — Jones said she has been working 12-hour days — nor cheap. To launch the site, Jones said she bought a new computer, upgraded her hard drive and licensed the software that she uses to create the maps. A GoFundMe page had raised nearly $27,000 for her as of Friday evening. While Jones said she is open to talking with the health department about selling her dashboard to the state, she insisted that she did not launch the project out of spite or revenge. “It really is because I had to stop feeling sorry for myself and what happened to me, as unfair as it was, and get back to doing what I wanted to do in the first place, which was help people,” she said. Jacqueline Dupree contributed to this report. Egg Moron has issued a correction as of 17:07 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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Egg Moron posted:*snip* thanks, rebekah is a hero
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Mr. Pizza posted:what an amazing time to be alive not for long
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SKULL.GIF posted:https://today.tamu.edu/2020/06/12/texas-am-study-face-masks-critical-in-preventing-spread-of-covid-19/ Will be interesting to see Texas chuds trying claim that this A&M study is a liberal plot.
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Marx Headroom posted:you ever tried giving yourself a haircut? the back of my head looks like the chaz garden who the gently caress cares what you look like in a pandemic, embrace the apocalypse-chic fosborb posted:we zoomed with our family hair person last night and she walked me through an undercut for my wife and it turned out better than not doing anything! this is an excellent alternative though, presuming you live with someone to help with the cut
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every time I leave my apartment I look like an absolute crazy motherfucker. I consider this me doing my part to remind everyone around me that This Is A loving Pandemic
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gently caress COREY PERRY posted:every time I leave my apartment I look like an absolute crazy motherfucker. I consider this me doing my part to remind everyone around me that This Is A loving Pandemic I've been attending Black Lives Matter protests in this suit 
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Mr Hootington posted:We still here? 2nd wave? the first wave never ended
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Communist Thoughts posted:its hard to believe US healthcare is real Mr Hootington posted:We still here? 2nd wave?
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SKULL.GIF posted:I don't think that that's surprising. Remember the study a few months ago that found that the virus persisted for a long time on smooth metal surfaces but died quickly on cardboard? Not having read the study at all I suspect the lower levels measured from cotton (and cardboard, etc) are at least partly due to porous natural fibres being a bit difficult to efficiently extract nucleic acids from compared to the other materials. Cotton in particular is great at capturing nucleic acids (hence its frequent use for collection swabs) but tends to be reluctant to release them into solution (which is why swabs used for some high sensitivity testing have moved to specialised synthetic materials). In general non-porous materials like metal or plastic are easy to sample from, so give a more "honest" measure. Cottons not useless as PPE, but I doubt its +4 to COVID slaying.
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I live right next to the U of Minn. (second biggest university in the country) and lol https://www.startribune.com/with-campus-reopening-ok-d-u-president-lays-out-plan-for-social-distancing/571228582/ quote:In partnership with state health officials, U leaders determined it’s safe for students to live together because roommates essentially become a “family unit.”
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Solarin posted:drat that's a lot of other Camp diseases were the biggest cause of death in basically every war until world war 2
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Google Butt posted:I ordered 4 noish n95s for $60 so I guess I'm just gonna cycle through them throughout the week and pray or something whatever I don't know gnc's are starting to carry n95's ive noticed all their little signs they put on the lawns everywhere
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Clearwater is a city located in Pinellas County, Florida, United States, northwest of Tampa and St. Petersburg. To the west of Clearwater lies the Gulf of Mexico and to the southeast lies Tampa Bay. Estimate (2019)[2] 116,946
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mastershakeman posted:Its been known for 3 months that a/c is a huge part of spreading it and absolutely no one wanted to address that well poo poo i think my favourite pro-mask warrior is naseem taleb who, as always, isn't afraid of just insulting anyone and everyone online who he thinks is a moron. a true posting guru. https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1271494465446871046 Dreylad has issued a correction as of 17:35 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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actionjackson posted:I live right next to the U of Minn. (second biggest university in the country) and lol
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In Training posted:anybody have text on this, i'd like to read the full wapo story. Tension built for days between Florida Department of Health supervisors and the department’s geographic information systems manager before officials showed her the door, she says, permanently pulling her off the coronavirus dashboard that she operated for weeks. Managers had wanted Rebekah Jones to make certain changes to the public-facing portal, she says. Jones had objected to — and sometimes refused to comply with — what she saw as unethical requests. She says the department offered to let her resign. Jones declined. Weeks after she was fired in mid-May, Jones has now found a way to present the state’s coronavirus data exactly the way she wants it: She created a dashboard of her own. I wanted to build an application that delivered data and helped people get tested and helped them get resources that they need from their community,” Jones, 30, said of the site that launched Thursday. “And that’s what I ended up building with this new dashboard.” White House coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx praised Florida’s official coronavirus dashboard in April as a beacon of transparency. But Jones has asserted that the site undercounts the state’s infection total and overcounts the number of people tested — with the official numbers bolstering the decision to start loosening restrictions on the economy in early May, when the state had not met federal guidelines for reopening. The competing opinions about how to frame Florida’s data underscore the importance of access to accurate information about the virus’s spread as the state continues to lift restrictions on public life. Among other data-related controversies, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) came under heavy scrutiny after Jones first alleged publicly that the health department was manipulating statistics to support his desire to reopen. The Florida governor’s office and the health department did not respond Friday to an email seeking comment on Jones’s new dashboard. In a previous statement, a spokeswoman for the governor said Jones “exhibited a repeated course of insubordination during her time with the Department, including her unilateral decisions to modify the Department’s COVID-19 dashboard without input or approval from the epidemiological team or her supervisors.” Jones’s allegations about other managers’ requests are serious. She claimed they asked her to delete data showing that some residents tested positive for the coronavirus in January, even though DeSantis assured residents in March that there was no evidence of community spread. Jones also alleged that she was asked to manually change numbers to wrongly make counties appear to have met metrics for reopening. Despite the differences between the two dashboards, the site that Jones launched Thursday relies on the health department’s data. She said she wrote code that pulls information from various reports on the department’s website and presents the data in a way that she believes adds more context. Her dashboard also incorporates data from hospitals and from a volunteer organization that maps coronavirus testing sites. On Jones’s dashboard, the number of people tested is significantly lower than the official figure. She said the state’s number is actually a tally of the number of samples taken — not the number of people tested. Her dashboard said Florida had tested 895,947 people as of Friday evening, whereas the state dashboard listed the number of people tested as more than 1.3 million. Jones’s death toll is slightly higher because she counts nonresidents who died while they were in Florida, while the state does not. States take varied approaches in accounting for nonresidents who die there, as well as for residents who die while out of state. The case count on Jones’s dashboard is also higher because it includes people who have tested positive for antibodies, or proteins that indicate that the virus has been in someone’s body. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has warned that antibody tests are not foolproof and that a higher percentage of positive results may be incorrect in areas where few people have had the virus. In Jones’s eyes, the divergences from the state’s data site were necessary. “If you’re creating something that simply presents a very narrow view of a situation that’s complex and nuanced but affects everybody’s lives, then you’re not enabling them to take action, to take some semblance of control over what they’re going through,” she said of the state health department’s dashboard. Stay safe and informed as the United States reopens with our free Coronavirus Updates newsletter Jones said she plans to keep her dashboard running, from her home in Tallahassee, for as long as it seems to be useful for residents and she can afford to do so. If a vaccine is developed, she said she wants her site to include information about distribution. The project has been neither easy — Jones said she has been working 12-hour days — nor cheap. To launch the site, Jones said she bought a new computer, upgraded her hard drive and licensed the software that she uses to create the maps. A GoFundMe page had raised nearly $27,000 for her as of Friday evening. While Jones said she is open to talking with the health department about selling her dashboard to the state, she insisted that she did not launch the project out of spite or revenge. “It really is because I had to stop feeling sorry for myself and what happened to me, as unfair as it was, and get back to doing what I wanted to do in the first place, which was help people,” she said.
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:The American Civil War represents a landmark in military and medical history as the last large-scale conflict fought without knowledge of the germ theory of disease. Typical American solipsism. The ACW wasn't even the biggest war of the 1860s. Heck, General Robert E. Lee wasn't even the best General Lee of the 1860s.
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actionjackson posted:I live right next to the U of Minn. (second biggest university in the country) and lol hahaha yeah dorm bathrooms, exactly like you were just back home with your family also, all of these studies conveniently ignore all non traditional and poor local students who are not living on campus at all
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Dreylad posted:well poo poo Big surprise https://twitter.com/johnmcclean_ie/status/1271501705562243072?s=21 Country’s hosed lol
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actionjackson posted:I live right next to the U of Minn. (second biggest university in the country) and lol Makes perfect sense. After all, it isn't like all of those students go out every day and interact with dozens of people each that are outside of the people they live with or anything.
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indigi posted:tell your kid that their mom is going to die if they go to the party I just wanted to point out that the mod who gave out this probation is a very stupid person, and is emblematic of the problem the US faces. "Don't tell someone to traumatize a child" Or put another way, don't tell the truth if it will upset people. This is what's being done at every level and its why we will never beat this thing. The mother in that story should be shamed for her stupidity, and yes her kids should know she's putting lives in danger. WorldsStongestNerd has issued a correction as of 17:54 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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