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Symetrique posted:The Warthog isn't that great of a recommendation anymore. It's a seriously outdated product with a premium price. VKB and Virpil are both much better alternatives. Okay yeah, if you have money to burn on this hobby then the spec manufacturers are the place to go.
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Found a Reddit post comparing the Thrustmaster T-Flight X (older model) to the 4 (newer model). https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/47oe50/has_anyone_tried_the_tflight_hotas_4_any/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body It looks like the biggest improvement is the stick dead-zones.
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I'll be using the same joystick I used in 1997 to play this. It's only right. MS Sidewinder Precision Pro will never die.
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Xenomrph posted:I’m looking at the T-Flight in Amazon and there’s an $80 “for PC and PS4” model and a $58 “for PC and PS3” model. I assume the cheaper one is the older model, but it’s also rated higher than the new one and has 10x as many reviews. Is there an appreciable difference between the two, and is it worth spending the extra $25 for the newer model? It is, in fact, just a reskin - it was re-issued for Ace Combat 7 and branded as such. The cheaper one is basically the same stick (though uglier, I hate orange personally).
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:This is a woman actor who was dubbed. Old EU claims Horton Salm was in Rotj without a mustache but that’s a different Y-wing pilot/actor. Also I think some variant of this shot was my avatar onTFN. This pilot was a woman too? I only knew the A-Wing pilot who rammed the SSD at the end of RotJ was a dubbed-over woman. Lobok posted:I know they confirmed no third-person view, which I'm okay with, but what about a HUD-only view with no cockpit? It seems like cockpit field of vision is a balancing factor so probably not. There would be no advantage to playing with the cockpit on if you could play HUD only anyway and the geeky Star Wars pilot fantasy is a big part of this game’s draw.
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Jun 19, 2020 18:10
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I have the T1600m stock and throttle and really good Found a pretty good hype vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkpZU6imHAo
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George H.W. oval office posted:I'll be using the same joystick I used in 1995 to play this. It's only right. MS Sidewinder 3D Pro will never die. e: come to think of it the Sidewinder 3D Pro was a slight pain in the rear end with Tie Fighter because IIRC it needed a patch or some extra work to make sure it would calibrate correctly
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If people are looking for basic joysticks and don't want to spend a lot to get started I'd highly recommend the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro it's a really good basic stick and I used one for over a decade before upgrading to a VKB.
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Popete posted:If people are looking for basic joysticks and don't want to spend a lot to get started I'd highly recommend the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro it's a really good basic stick and I used one for over a decade before upgrading to a VKB. Yeah, I found one of these in a thrift store for $5. Works perfectly.
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Chillgamesh posted:It seems like cockpit field of vision is a balancing factor so probably not. There would be no advantage to playing with the cockpit on if you could play HUD only anyway and the geeky Star Wars pilot fantasy is a big part of this game’s draw. But not even in single-player? Doesn't seem all that different from other competitive games with real cars or planes that also have geeky appeal. Ace Combat 7 has HUD-only and 3rd-person you can use in MP. Might not be a deal breaker but I don't think I've ever used cockpit view when other views were available so that's the only thing so far tempering my hype.
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Joysticks? Sure, I had to use one for XvT and XvA but I would've preffered to use a mouse if I could, just like I did in Freespace. (I hear the original X-Wing actually did support a mouse, no idea why the followup games didn't)
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The cockpit itself and the visibility to the outside is a huge balancing factor.
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Some more info, here is a graphic on the current known play zones GameInformer has some info that says there will be no microtransactions/battle passes/games a service AS OF NOW quote:Are There Microtransactions? https://www.gameinformer.com/ea-play/2020/06/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about-star-wars-squadrons The Databank has some Squadrons related info: https://www.starwars.com/databank/titan-squadron Jerkface fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Kinda sucks that it’s a one and done if that’s to be believed.
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George H.W. oval office posted:Kinda sucks that it’s a one and done if that’s to be believed. It's entirely credible that EA have been burned enough times on making promises they can't keep e: also super loving dumb of them to keep on promising free content/season pass content into the release cycle of their own competing next game Alchenar fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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George H.W. oval office posted:Kinda sucks that it’s a one and done if that’s to be believed. my guess is the campaign will be decent call of dutyish length(8 to 10) with repeatability, and they are focusing on multiplayer replayability. but yeah, they are probably waiting to see if the game takes off and starts making bank before putting more money behind it. my hope is it becomes the next big multiplayer game or at least pretty popular.
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Jun 19, 2020 19:08
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One of the biggest scourges on gaming is this idea that if there isn't a patch or update on the horizon, a game no longer has value. Adding more stuff to the game into the future is great! But it shouldn't be expected for every single product.
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George H.W. oval office posted:Kinda sucks that it’s a one and done if that’s to be believed. I think its nice to not immediately have to worry about MTX or a battle pass. I'm sure if the game is popular it will receive support. This game was apparently pitched as a labor of love by the dev team, it wasn't something EA made people develop. Makes sense they don't have big commercial plans for it.
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jivjov posted:One of the biggest scourges on gaming is this idea that if there isn't a patch or update on the horizon, a game no longer has value. Adding more stuff to the game into the future is great! But it shouldn't be expected for every single product.
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Space sims are still super niche, this is dipping a toe into the water to see if there's a market. If people buy then we'll get future games. e: \/\/ oh yeah, you need terrain in your space sim otherwise it's just a fish tank. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Jerkface posted:Some more info, here is a graphic on the current known play zones Interesting that for at least 4 of 6 debris is a key feature. Keeps capital ships in certain areas of the map and like a terrestrial flight sim it has that element of danger in a dogfight where you need to be mindful of your surroundings. Can't just be chasing radar blips on your screen.
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Huh. Not a Star Wars fan, but I played Tie Fighter ages ago and remember being startled how good it was. Definitely keeping an eye on this.
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i hope they add the other 2 trilogies to this game. Hopin for at least 30 ships total by the time its all said and done. I realize that this is a pipe dream tho
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Just OT era is fine, but sure Clone Wars would be fun to have if you're making a dream list. Really no value in adding the sequel trilogy though lol.
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Add a proper trench run and trench run 2.0 you cowards. The dream is the entire battle of endor.
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George H.W. oval office posted:Add a proper trench run and trench run 2.0 you cowards. the last mission on XWA always crashed on my gateway 2000 right after I blew up the reactor core. I played that mission a hundred times trying to get the final cutscene years later I went and watched it on youtube
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Chomp8645 posted:Just OT era is fine, but sure Clone Wars would be fun to have if you're making a dream list. Fuckin' seriously, it's an absolute crime the best the sequel trilogy could come up with is "Fighters that look very slightly different from the originals." Meanwhile I'd kill for an ARC-170 or a Naboo Starfighter, those things were rad as hell.
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thinkin really hard about getting battlefront 2 because I want to star war The game is "half off" on Steam right now but it's the bullshit version that's padded with a billion cosmetics, how often does the actual game go on sale? And is the playerbase currently a healthy size or nah? Acebuckeye13 posted:Fuckin' seriously, it's an absolute crime the best the sequel trilogy could come up with is "Fighters that look very slightly different from the originals." Meanwhile I'd kill for an ARC-170 or a Naboo Starfighter, those things were rad as hell. ARCs and LAATs loving rock. I like V-Wings a lot too. The Droid fighters aren't super exciting though imo.
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There are many, many things that are wrong the with Prequels. The production design is not one of them. drat near every single design and sound effect is a home run in the prequels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK7DRK2qMEQ The most beautiful sounding gunship ever made.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Fuckin' seriously, it's an absolute crime the best the sequel trilogy could come up with is "Fighters that look very slightly different from the originals." Meanwhile I'd kill for an ARC-170 or a Naboo Starfighter, those things were rad as hell. Yeah the more I think about this the more I get pissed off at the staggering dearth of imagination when it came to the sequels' aesthetics. Even if you really, really wanted Rebels vs. Empire 2.0, at the absolute least maybe you could come up with something more exciting than literally TIE Fighters again, but this time with the paintjob inverted. I did like the First Order Star Destroyers though -- they seemed like a logical evolution of the OT-era warships like how the F-15 design evolved into the F-22. And then for the ultimate final battle JJ just farted out "uh, they're literally just Imperial IIs again, but this time with a big tube welded on the bottom"  EDIT: yeah the prequel spaceship designs own hard. I love how the Republic ships gradually got more and more Imperial-looking.
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ninjahedgehog posted:Yeah the more I think about this the more I get pissed off at the staggering dearth of imagination when it came to the sequels' aesthetics. Even if you really, really wanted Rebels vs. Empire 2.0, at the absolute least maybe you could come up with something more exciting than literally TIE Fighters again, but this time with the paintjob inverted. yeah, i get it. if were are going in universe and what writers/artists, the new republic/resistance stuff looks alright if overly utilitarian especially the resistance, since they are basically using 30 plus year old tech and random civilian ships. the first order are basically weird nostalgic nazis. make the tiger tank but this time its bigger, make the tie fighters better and give them hyperdrive.
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Chillgamesh posted:thinkin really hard about getting battlefront 2 because I want to star war Prett sure the Celebration Edition is just how the game is sold now.
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I want a cloud car bespin level. v wing airspeeders (canon?) vs cloud cars. why do I still have all this star wars lore in my head edit; I guess if the old XWA ships are showing up in some of the concept art, (like the skipray blastboat?) they'll reintroduce ships from the old EU that haven't shown up again after disney buyout happened? does that make sense haven't really kept up with star wars but I love spaceship games A MIRACLE fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Sekenr posted:I already have my hotas + VR nerd equipment, so I can think of very little reasons that would stop me from buying this. Imagine if you will, that you had a Millennium Falcon, but were driving from the center instead of from way off to the side of its center of mass. And then you had two turrets in addition to the main forward-mounted guns so that if you wanted to you could just focus on evasion and giving your gunners an angle to focus their fire. I guess if you're just doing a game where you're out in the void of space and don't have to avoid scraping the ground or hitting a wall, it's fine to stick your cockpit in a weird position, but that shot of flying a U-Wing where you're over to the side instead of centered was still disconcerting to me. Personally I prefer 3rd person perspectives like in Rogue Squadron, but those games aren't as legendary as the original Tie Fighter was at the height of the popularity of spaceship games. Somewhere in a closet there's the Rogue Squadron series collection remake that they were making for the Wii, and it's never going to see the light of day.
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A MIRACLE posted:I want a cloud car bespin level. v wing airspeeders (canon?) vs cloud cars. why do I still have all this star wars lore in my head Battlefront the first/third had something close. On the Bespin level for Fighter Squadron both sides could choose a cloud car instead of their team's usual fighters if they wanted. Appropriately, almost nobody ever did because the cloud car was an enormous piece of poo poo and basically a death trap.
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George H.W. oval office posted:Add a proper trench run and trench run 2.0 you cowards. They mentioned in an interview the campaign starts "after the destruction of alderan" for the prologue, then jumps forward to after endor, which gives me a sneaking suspicion the games campaign may open with the original death star battle, but who knows. I'd love to see one of these 'fleet battle' type modes at the death star, with the imperial side having to hold off the rebels for 10 minutes or whatever for it to get in range, and the rebels having to try and blow it up before the time limit is reached. I mean, in an ideal world I'd love to see the game get a ton of post release support, pre/sequel trilogy settings and ships, expanded single player campaigns, a million playable ships, etc, but if the "monkey's paw" of a genuine new X-Wing game being made is "eh, its kinda short and light on content" gently caress. I'll take it. If thats the only downside we got off lucky. Tom Guycot fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:There are many, many things that are wrong the with Prequels. The republic gunships mini death star turrets are dumb bullshit and the worst type of fan service
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SlothfulCobra posted:Imagine if you will, that you had a Millennium Falcon, but were driving from the center instead of from way off to the side of its center of mass. And then you had two turrets in addition to the main forward-mounted guns so that if you wanted to you could just focus on evasion and giving your gunners an angle to focus their fire. Essentially, when in cockpit mode it was like being in an FPS - you were a floating invisible point in space with a HUD. Even though XWA let you look around the cockpit, everything around you had no mass or collision physics, like the player’s visible body in an FPS. The U-wing being “off center” is a byproduct of the cockpit seating two people side by side. Real life cars are the same way, but most cars intuitively handle as if you’re driving from the “middle” of the cabin unless it’s exceptionally wide. Granted real life cars can’t do barrel rolls, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the game “cheats” and has the view appear to pivot around the player’s centered POV rather than the actual nose of the ship. Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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