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Honestly, they went so ham into trying to immediately scale the Y up after they decided they were done with that silly ol pandemic shutdown game that they probably didn't get a chance to actually build any quality into their processes. From what I can tell, they're largely separate lines. So you could probably buy a 3 right now and it'll be great, but a Y would be questionable.
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Westy543 posted:Honestly, they went so ham into trying to immediately scale the Y up after they decided they were done with that silly ol pandemic shutdown game that they probably didn't get a chance to actually build any quality into their processes. https://youtu.be/WQY6cVNMGrw Check the date
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Westy543 posted:Do you have a link for that thread? I'd like to see what things they change. I've seen some really detailed reviews on YouTube from last year when I put the car on my radar, but I'd be curious to see what's changed over time. I can't seems to find the original one I looked at but here's one: https://teslamodel3.fandom.com/wiki/Model_3_Production_Changes Also, here's a thread where they talk about these: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/comprehensive-list-of-model-3-updates.169317/ Here's a change log for Model 3 software: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vdCt-toHxtSxGqNgOu9Fngl1-01DfnZn-RklDj_IdHc/htmlview quote:
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YOLOsubmarine posted:https://youtu.be/WQY6cVNMGrw lmao I stand corrected. I guess this is what you get for making people work during a goddamn pandemic, Elon! Nostalgic Cashew posted:Model 3 changes Thank you! "04/18: Shiny to Matte Tesla Logo on Steering Wheel" THANK CHRIST. My Volt's Chevy logo is shiny, and I've been blinded a nonzero number of times going out to lunch. Well, before the pandemic anyway. That'd be really annoying if they stopped including the J plug adapter, those are pricey AFAIK.
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Yeah, the chrome trim looks great until you're driving in the general direction of the sun.
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Yeah, regardless of whether you think the M3 quality is better after 3 years of production or whatever, I wouldn't touch anything manufactured after the shutdown up through now.
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I don't know if they're fixing cars in the parking lot or in the tent, but it's not a great sign to have all these cars sitting around with doors missing and frunks open https://twitter.com/phoennix10/status/1273618870427766784?s=20
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YOLOsubmarine posted:https://youtu.be/WQY6cVNMGrw
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MomJeans420 posted:I don't know if they're fixing cars in the parking lot or in the tent, but it's not a great sign to have all these cars sitting around with doors missing and frunks open Yeah they definitely DO have ones at the factory with hosed up doors and poo poo in the outbound lot, but they're not where car hauler trucks come. I saw a silver (the color they discontinued) Model S there, it's on the west corner of the outbound lot. They have a 3 with a hosed up front fender too. They frequently leave doors, trunks, etc open. Sometimes I stroll by and go take a look. I was browsing jobs in the area recently, and Tesla is hiring hella quality engineers (like 3-5 open positions across different departments). So maybe they're aware? Hard to tell when there's a few months lead between cars being built and cars being delivered. Westy543 fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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MomJeans420 posted:I don't know if they're fixing cars in the parking lot or in the tent, but it's not a great sign to have all these cars sitting around with doors missing and frunks open This is from Electrek, which exists basically as a fluff publication to suck Tesla's dick, so them running pieces about new Tesla problems is probs not the beat sign.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:For the most part first year model issues with established manufacturers aren’t related to basic QC like “does the hatch close” or “are the back seats actually attached.” Those are things that should be a solved problem for a company that has been making cars for 10 years now. It’s another side effect of the idea that Tesla is a tech product not a manufacturing product. The most important thing is getting the release out the door, quality can be patched in later. Hatch closing and back seats come in update version 11.773.937.9
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My local Nissan dealer is selling the 2019 Leaf S Plus for $15k + fees and sales tax, net after Colorado and federal tax credits/rebates. That is one hell of a fuckin' deal. I still think my 2020 Bolt LT was a better deal at $21.5k for the CCS and batteries that don't commit suicide over time, but that Leaf price... you could drive it for a year or two and sell to Carmax/Carvana and get all your money back. Bernie Panders fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Bernie Panders posted:My local Nissan dealer is selling the 2019 Leaf S Plus for $15k + fees and sales tax, net after Colorado and federal tax credits/rebates. That is one hell of a fuckin' deal.
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Bernie Panders posted:My local Nissan dealer is selling the 2019 Leaf S Plus for $15k + fees and sales tax, net after Colorado and federal tax credits/rebates. That is one hell of a fuckin' deal. I dunno if you're asking, but buy it, the Leaf is a great vehicle.
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cakesmith handyman posted:There are dozens of other car manufacturers that do glass roofs, I don't hear about those leaking, there should be absolutely no path for water to get in if there isn't an opening panel of some kind. *laughs in Volkswagen AG*
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I had water pooling in my map lights (headliner) once, turns out the sunroof drains were clogged real good Golf IV TDI
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Bernie Panders posted:My local Nissan dealer is selling the 2019 Leaf S Plus for $15k + fees and sales tax, net after Colorado and federal tax credits/rebates. That is one hell of a fuckin' deal.  Is that used, or new old stock? CO has like a $5K discount or something right? Still, that would have changed some equations for me.
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Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:I had water pooling in my map lights (headliner) once, turns out the sunroof drains were clogged real good I discovered these drains existed after borrowing my parents Ford Explorer with a sunroof.. I had picked it up in the middle of a massive downpour. As I was coming to a stop at a traffic light, I suddenly had Niagara Falls coming from the roof console and all along handliner where it met the windshield. Ford later told him both drain tubes where clogged pretty badly, and they had to snake one out to get it unclogged.
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Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:I had water pooling in my map lights (headliner) once, turns out the sunroof drains were clogged real good
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Charles posted:It's been that way with every product launch they've had. To some extent I wouldn't want a first year car from any automaker. First Year Cars I or parents have bought that had zero QA issues: 1975 Honda Accord 1984 Honda CRX 2000 Toyota Echo (I still have this, 267,000+ trouble free miles) I sense a pattern here.
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All three cars were built before 9/11 
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Elviscat posted:This is from Electrek, which exists basically as a fluff publication to suck Tesla's dick, so them running pieces about new Tesla problems is probs not the beat sign. Apparently they've been posting more negative things recently, which is surprising because I have the same opinion about them
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I've got two Model S cars, both with the *operable* pano sunroof, never had a leak. One of those is a first year production car, other is a 2017. Where I DID have a waterfall, was from one of the seals on the taillights leaking, and filling the interior of the rear hatch with water, which then dumped into the back of the car when the hatch was fully open. They fixed that out of warranty for free. That said, some of those Model Y issues are laughably bad, and I can totally understand wanting to wait out this initial production/pandemic period.
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VideoGameVet posted:First Year Cars I or parents have bought that had zero QA issues: Conversely if you bought a Honda v6 automatic you'd be unhappy, same if you have one of the current 1.5L Earth Dreams turbo. 🤷🏻♂️
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All I'm hearing is don't buy cars with sunroofs
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gwrtheyrn posted:All I'm hearing is don't buy cars with sunroofs Obviously, all they do is take up head room.
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MomJeans420 posted:Apparently they've been posting more negative things recently, which is surprising because I have the same opinion about them Yeah, as I mentioned a few pages back, their head editor / author felt slighted by Tesla due to a price change, so he's no longer onboard the TSLA train. I don't think he's full TSLAQ, but he's totally willing to drag the company now.
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Russian Bear posted:Obviously, all they do is take up head room. and leak
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Sunroofs are a poor substitute for having an actual cabriolet 
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Sunroofs are fine, just dont wait 10 years to empty out the drains It's incredibly easy on the VW golfs, just play with the nipples (giggity) inside the door seams until crap falls out. If it fails, use compressed air to blow the crap out the other side.
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gwrtheyrn posted:All I'm hearing is don't buy cars with sunroofs  Westy543 posted:Yeah, as I mentioned a few pages back, their head editor / author felt slighted by Tesla due to a price change, so he's no longer onboard the TSLA train. I don't think he's full TSLAQ, but he's totally willing to drag the company now. This is actually somehow worse than just being cheerleaders in the first place. That place is a loving cesspool.
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Wibla posted:Sunroofs are a poor substitute for having an actual cabriolet Yeah if you put the top down it can’t leak.
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So, I was getting everything geared up to pick up my car next Saturday, had the VIN, insurance is ready, down payment is ready, financing is approved, etc. And then I get an email from my sales advisor that somehow the factory matched me to a car that is the wrong color... Fortunately they were able to match me to one that is the correct color (literally two cars difference off the line because the serial number is only different by 2), but unfortunately its in California and I'm in Wisconsin so it will have to be shipped halfway across the country and probably won't be here on time for Saturday. I politely asked who is the soon to be former employee responsible for this screw up.
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The way Tesla runs things is that they don’t even know who fucks up.
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Mistakes are unforgivable, and someone should definitely lose their livelihood in a pandemic for inconveniencing you, Karen.
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Loucks posted:Mistakes are unforgivable, and someone should definitely lose their livelihood in a pandemic for inconveniencing you, Karen.
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It was a joke, but I forgot this is the internet. Too bad they mixed it up with black, if it had been red I might have said I'd take it.
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its hilarious to me that everyone knows that the traditional OEM dealer model sucks 9 kinds of rear end but yet Tesla has managed to make an even more hosed up ordering and delivery process
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MrYenko posted:This is actually somehow worse than just being cheerleaders in the first place. That place is a loving cesspool.
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