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Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

CODChimera posted:

if trump and biden both die to corona then all of this might have been worth it

Our house and senate is full of people who are 80+ with a laundry list of Co-morbidities and not a single one has even been hospitalized.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Thoguh posted:

Our house and senate is full of people who are 80+ with a laundry list of Co-morbidities and not a single one has even been hospitalized.

OTOH, BoJo managed to get it so there's hope

Pump Jockey
Mar 15, 2019

i believe in love
So Xfinity waived everyone’s data caps through June 30 because of the pandemic, and that ends in uhh.. 8 days. Good thing I don’t need to upload instructional videos and stream office hours for summer school in two weeks then.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


CODChimera posted:

if trump and biden both die to corona then all of this might have been worth it

The real Third Way

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Did rand paul or some other dork get this poo poo

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



Google Butt posted:

Did rand paul or some other dork get this poo poo

and used senate facilities while he was waiting for his results lol

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

Google Butt posted:

Did rand paul or some other dork get this poo poo

Yes, and his subsequent actions are as dumb as you’d imagine

elaboration
Feb 21, 2020

lmao this kicks rear end

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

quote:

In an interview with JAMA editor-in-chief Howard Bauchner Tuesday, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases questioned the "durability" of candidate vaccines.

“If you look at the duration of protection when you recover from one of the several benign coronaviruses that cause the common cold, the durability of infection is only measured in a year or less as opposed to the other infections where you can get 15 to 20 years of protection,” he said.

Dr. Greg Poland, director and founder of Mayo Clinic Vaccine Research Group, said natural immunity from coronaviruses SARS-CoV-1 and MERS can be detected two to three years after recovering from infection. However, immunity for seasonal coronaviruses can last as little as 80 days to several years in some people.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/06/03/coronavirus-vaccine-dr-anthony-fauci-questions-long-term-immunity/3133660001/

Queue goons saying "but you can't get the same virus twice!!!"

Fame Douglas has issued a correction as of 10:36 on Jun 22, 2020

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012



You understand that that statement is based off of other coronaviruses and not sars-cov-2 right?

CleverHans
Apr 25, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Stereotype posted:

One of the two unnaturally old rich white men might die, and we get someone random

Or two of two... President Pelosi

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Fame Douglas posted:

Remember dummies in this thread jumping all over me for saying there's no guarantee of long-lasting immunity with this virus, which is why any "herd immunity" strategy is pretty dangerous?

ha, if true that would be really bad, had we not already beaten the virus

thank god there's no possibility we could be facing an endless cycle of death because we didn't contain it

anyways its pretty nice outside in arizona, i think i'll take a victory walk to the mall

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Until we actually see at least a single case of a reinfection im not gonna stress about immunity being short-lived.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Thoguh posted:

Until we actually see at least a single case of a reinfection im not gonna stress about immunity being short-lived.

Pretty much the only evidence we have that it's even possible is lower levels of antibodies in the blood which tests primarily for one type of immunoglobulin which according to some studies isn't even that effective at fighting of the roni.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Grundulum posted:

The average CSPAM poster seems unlikely to go for #3.

:confused:

What do you think this place is?

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

Dumb Lowtax posted:

:confused:

What do you think this place is?

Oh, I think the average CSPAM poster would like for it to happen. They would just prefer other people do all the heavy lifting/shooty bits so they can keep shitposting.

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



Grundulum posted:

That’s a tall order. Once it got out of China, it relied on individual countries to all make exactly the right difficult decisions. Someone was bound to gently caress up even if the US somehow hadn’t, unless billions of dollars and tens of thousands of hours of expertise were donated to help countries that couldn’t afford it. And just :lol: if you think a G20 nation that wasn’t willing to stop it spreading internally would have spent anything to help other countries.

Edit: that said, please don’t go completely brokebrained. It’s gonna suck for a while, and for some individuals it won’t end well, but humanity as a whole is going to make it through this as long as it doesn’t escalate to a shooting war. At the very least don’t snap until after November. We need to vote the current set of rear end in a top hat oligarchs out of office and replace them with slightly better rear end in a top hat oligarchs.

Honestly, America’s best chance of having a sane response to the Corona would have been if we were approaching the end of the 2nd term of President Mitt W. Romney. If Hillary or Bernie was Prez, they’d have had the same economic forces trying to force them to Open ‘Er Up (although Bernie would have tried and failed to resist) and the CHUD backlash would have been 100x worse. At least Romney would
be wearing a mask.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Since there's a bunch of new outbreaks among young people right now I guess we're about to get a lot of new data about what the real risks are or aren't for people in their teens and twenties.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Thoguh posted:

Since there's a bunch of new outbreaks among young people right now I guess we're about to get a lot of new data about what the real risks are or aren't for people in their teens and twenties.

The Zoomer wheezes while the Boomer leaves us

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
I called home today and my stepdad is getting convinced by TV again that both sides are twisting the process of counting cases to match their own narrative.

This makes me think, why are we letting the media frame the conversation this way? Why fixate on a number that no one is counting correctly? Why is it about the number of cases at all?

All of us should instead make sure the COVID conversation is about the total lack of mitigating factors. There is nothing in place to prevent the virus from spreading to the whole population. That's the important part! What does it matter what today's *current* cases are if that's the endgame? There's a train coming down the tunnel and we're too busy counting how many tracks away it is to get the gently caress out of the tunnel.

If they try to argue that there's no train, point out the half million that are already dead globally. Let them explain that many people dying of a spreading lung infection any other way. If they try to argue that the train's not coming, ask them what's going to stop it. We're not in lockdown. We're not taking any countermeasures as a society. We're standing on the tracks where half a million people just died. We're going to get hit.

Letting them frame this to be about numbers in the first place is something we should have never allowed.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Grundulum posted:

Oh, I think the average CSPAM poster would like for it to happen. They would just prefer other people do all the heavy lifting/shooty bits so they can keep shitposting.

The "heavy lifting" required is a general workers strike, literally sitting on your rear end and not coming in to work for capital. Kind of like what's going on right now, for anyone who's responsibly in quarantine so they don't infect others.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Grundulum posted:

Oh, I think the average CSPAM poster would like for it to happen. They would just prefer other people do all the heavy lifting/shooty bits so they can keep shitposting.

there's also the fact that we don't live in an action movie to consider

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

Pump Jockey posted:

So Xfinity waived everyone’s data caps through June 30 because of the pandemic, and that ends in uhh.. 8 days. Good thing I don’t need to upload instructional videos and stream office hours for summer school in two weeks then.

You don't get unlimited data on home broadband?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Thoguh posted:

Until we actually see at least a single case of a reinfection im not gonna stress about immunity being short-lived.

We've seen multiple, but that alone isn't evidence. We'll know in a while is the real answer.

susan b buffering
Nov 14, 2016

alphabettitouretti posted:

You don't get unlimited data on home broadband?

lmao

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Pump Jockey posted:

So Xfinity waived everyone’s data caps through June 30 because of the pandemic, and that ends in uhh.. 8 days. Good thing I don’t need to upload instructional videos and stream office hours for summer school in two weeks then.

Oh that's nothing, LA's eviction waiver ends on that day, June 30. Everybody in the city gets a notice on the door and then a visit from the sheriff at once!

Also on the same day, the CARES act 600 dollar payments end for everyone nationwide!

Also around the same day, we find out if the Netherlands BCG study managed to prevent COVID or if that vaccine is hopeless!

Big day coming up in 8 days! I predict icy weather

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

CARES ends at the end of July. Theoretically it could get extended but that'd require sanity that Congress has yet to evince.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Oh. Could the 600 payments functionally be already over though? Some states seem to have run out of money.

I'm in California and they're a month late paying me lately. I read something about that being the case for the whole state. California offered all property owners relief on their property tax (at least the late fees) then never budgeted for actually processing the requests.

Meanwhile for other states, we've got the 9 hour long line to talk to one person in the unemployment line in KY, if they didn't budget for handling that then they certainly aren't flush with money to pay out millions of new unemployment claims plus the 600.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
Ronafi my COVIDhole.

facetoucher cat
Dec 20, 2013

by sebmojo
https://twitter.com/DeplorableChoir/status/1274771070034358274

*takes a long drag from a cigarette* I just don't know if we should keep this "society" thing going or not, I mean

CrimsonWolf
Aug 4, 2007

Update from my casino job. Multipal coworkers took trips to Florida including one going just this week to Universal Studios. Also a player threatened to shoot a floor supervisor for making him keep his mask over his mouth and nose.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

facetoucher cat posted:

https://twitter.com/DeplorableChoir/status/1274771070034358274

*takes a long drag from a cigarette* I just don't know if we should keep this "society" thing going or not, I mean

having genuine innocent fun at a trump event

it really is just a completely different reality

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Oh. Could the 600 payments functionally be already over though? Some states seem to have run out of money.

I'm in California and they're a month late paying me lately. I read something about that being the case for the whole state. California offered all property owners relief on their property tax (at least the late fees) then never budgeted for actually processing the requests.

Meanwhile for other states, we've got the 9 hour long line to talk to one person in the unemployment line in KY, if they didn't budget for handling that then they certainly aren't flush with money to pay out millions of new unemployment claims plus the 600.

Theoretically the states couldn't have run out of the Bernie pbuh Bucks but that doesn't mean they aren't going to gently caress people over by making it harder to get unemployment. The cash isn't something the state is supposed to touch just we have X people on unemployment we need $600 * X and the government gives it to them to distribute. Genuinely, it is one of the only successful bipartisan attempts to help unconditionally that's happened in most of our lifetimes.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


CrimsonWolf posted:

Update from my casino job. Multipal coworkers took trips to Florida including one going just this week to Universal Studios. Also a player threatened to shoot a floor supervisor for making him keep his mask over his mouth and nose.

I worked for a casino hotel in Vancouver briefly and they never allowed facial coverings or even hoods. Wonder how that's going to go.

Of course it's still shut down by the government because they aren't suicidal.

Adjectivist Philosophy
Oct 6, 2003

When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
Have there been any recent developments on antibody testing? Last I heard all the tests kind of blow, but I can't find news articles more recent than May

Bruce Hussein Daddy
Dec 26, 2005

I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God

Adjectivist Philosophy posted:

Have there been any recent developments on antibody testing? Last I heard all the tests kind of blow, but I can't find news articles more recent than May

That's because it was over in may, hello?

Bruce Hussein Daddy
Dec 26, 2005

I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
I can feel the mental health of my household slipping recently as things open up and more of our friends who were taking things seriously stop doing so and this just extends out for months with no end in sight.

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Raine
Apr 30, 2013

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