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Sharkie posted:i am trying with all my might to not post what i'm thinking and feeling right now.  like really what is the worst that could happen
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Phi230 posted:Does anyone know if that journo at Vice is doing a followup about this saga? They reported on the FYAD chuds before once or twice and I think this is even bigger.
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Jun 25, 2020 18:55
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BULBASAUR posted:i will never stop posting
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Glad she's getting out, I honestly thought she might end up going back after the Facebook video. Mad props to Literally a Bird.
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BULBASAUR posted:i will never stop posting amen brother
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twoday posted:Try not to panic, everyone. Just do your best to stay in contact with the body of posters you like. Join discords, offsites. PM your posting pals. There are many links being posted in various subforums. As long as the community is more or less in coherent and complete pieces we will figure out a way to move forward. Try to be patient, it may not happen overnight. SA is more than lowtax, and more than the ramshackle code we are using right now. Don’t worry, we will work it out somehow. im not gonna do the discord thing but i follow at least a few of you on twitter, twitter handle is my name, see yall when this shakes out.
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Phi230 posted:Does anyone know if that journo at Vice is doing a followup about this saga? They reported on the FYAD chuds before once or twice and I think this is even bigger. yeah they are. i DMed him asking if he knew about it and he said 5 people already messaged him and he's looking into it lol
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Jun 25, 2020 19:05
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Mods, please play this in the background of this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4
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Finicums Wake posted:yeah they are. i DMed him asking if he knew about it and he said 5 people already messaged him and he's looking into it lol lmao and I'm saying that as an editor and writer
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Jun 25, 2020 19:18
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OpenSourceBurger posted:Mods, please play this in the background of this thread
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Jun 25, 2020 19:19
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LAB it too good for us Ill miss her birds.
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Jun 25, 2020 19:23
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:new announcement It's pretty cool to release an announcement to say nothing. Well, I suppose confirming Logan got/is getting out is something big as not everyone will have seen that. Still. It almost feels like admins & mods just like secrecy for secrecy's sake.
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nikosoft posted:I don't know about you all, but I'm trying to think through what it would be like to just step away from everything completely. I've spent over 20 years on stuff like POE, metafilter, or SA, and while I appreciate having a community that doesn't seem to exist in the same way offline, maybe it's healthier to give it all up and find different pursuits. If you stop posting lowtax wins
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forkboy84 posted:It's pretty cool to release an announcement to say nothing. Well, I suppose confirming Logan got/is getting out is something big as not everyone will have seen that. Still. It almost feels like admins & mods just like secrecy for secrecy's sake. Yeah definitely reads like they're trying to cook up a slapped together forum so they can hold dominion over it Also makes sense why they haven't stepped down - they have access to forums-wide communique. That's a valuable asset when trying to set up your fiefdom Explains why Reene felt it necessary so silence some folks
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forkboy84 posted:It's pretty cool to release an announcement to say nothing. Well, I suppose confirming Logan got/is getting out is something big as not everyone will have seen that. Still.
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forkboy84 posted:It's pretty cool to release an announcement to say nothing. Well, I suppose confirming Logan got/is getting out is something big as not everyone will have seen that. Still. It almost feels like admins & mods just like secrecy for secrecy's sake. haha they've been like that forever, why would they change now during the end of days
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:that is the #1 most important thing archive and leak the mod forums
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forkboy84 posted:It's pretty cool to release an announcement to say nothing. Well, I suppose confirming Logan got/is getting out is something big as not everyone will have seen that. Still. It almost feels like admins & mods just like secrecy for secrecy's sake. ill translate the annoucement: we need you to update your email because its likely any neoSA successor site will be sent to you there
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Jun 25, 2020 19:27
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forkboy84 posted:It's pretty cool to release an announcement to say nothing. Well, I suppose confirming Logan got/is getting out is something big as not everyone will have seen that. Still. It almost feels like admins & mods just like secrecy for secrecy's sake. There are probably legitimate reasons not to make concrete-but-incomplete plans public til they're ready to go but yeah it's frustrating. (For them as well, I'm sure!)
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it's very nice and good that Renee (and others) are updating the forums regularly.forkboy84 posted:It's pretty cool to release an announcement to say nothing. Well, I suppose confirming Logan got/is getting out is something big as not everyone will have seen that. Still. It almost feels like admins & mods just like secrecy for secrecy's sake. there's pretty good reason for secrecy when this involves legal issues and minors and businesses and money etc. you can't just take over someone's business, even when they're a shithead, unfortunately
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:ill translate the annoucement: we need you to update your email because its likely any neoSA successor site will be sent to you there Harvesting the e-mail list of this forum for personal use is definitely not cool/legal. They'd be wise not to gently caress with PII but they are not wise
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Jun 25, 2020 19:30
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Crusty Nutsack posted:there's pretty good reason for secrecy when this involves legal issues and minors and businesses and money etc. you can't just take over someone's business, even when they're a shithead, unfortunately yup
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Crusty Nutsack posted:there's pretty good reason for secrecy when this involves legal issues and minors and businesses and money etc. you can't just take over someone's business, even when they're a shithead, unfortunately Sometimes I forget the revolution hasn't come and we can't just expropriate the means of producing shitposts. Alas.
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Jun 25, 2020 19:32
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why not simply leave a trail of ambien from his doorstep into a large cage, or pit.
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Sharkie posted:why not simply leave a trail of ambien from his doorstep into a large cage, or pit.
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quote:So that's why walking away, for us right now, is not an option. If we actually worked for Lowtax that would be a different matter, but frankly, we don't. Each of us feels beholden above all else to the community here and right now our priority is protecting that community, and we can't do that if we just skip town. If it comes to it the modmin team is ready to collectively walk away, but I don't think any of us want to do that if we don't have to. We don't want to watch our spaces and our communities disintegrate, which is what will happen if each space shatters into half a dozen offsites. This is some shameful coward bullshit right here. "I have to keep this web forum run by the abuser I've defended in the past alive. Not for myself, but for the ~~community~~ of posters in a truly selfless act of devotion. We're totally ready to walk away. But we're not going to do that. Because we're cowards who don't want to give up our comfortable little bullshit nests and can just sort of put that whole domestic abuse thing in the backs of our minds. Donate to RAINN."
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Harvesting the e-mail list of this forum for personal use is definitely not cool/legal. They'd be wise not to gently caress with PII but they are not wise im sure thats all being considered but personally i do not give a poo poo about the wife beating absentee landord of this websites Propert Rights
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quote:So that's why walking away, for us right now, is not an option. If we actually worked for Lowtax that would be a different matter, but frankly, we don't. Each of us feels beholden above all else to the community here and right now our priority is protecting that community, and we can't do that if we just skip town. If it comes to it the modmin team is ready to collectively walk away, but I don't think any of us want to do that if we don't have to. We don't want to watch our spaces and our communities disintegrate, which is what will happen if each space shatters into half a dozen offsites. This is some shameful coward bullshit right here. "I have to keep this web forum run by the abuser I've defended in the past alive. Not for myself, but for the ~~community~~ of posters in a truly selfless act of devotion. We're totally ready to walk away. But we're not going to do that. Because we're cowards who don't want to give up our comfortable little bullshit nests and can just sort of put that whole domestic abuse thing in the backs of our minds. Donate to RAINN."
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my ideal scenario is finding a way to keep something awful but without lowtax, even if that means buying him out. a "shattering" would be devastating and SA's greatest advantage is its breadth
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Crusty Nutsack posted:it's very nice and good that Renee (and others) are updating the forums regularly.  forums udpated
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Emacs Headroom posted:This is some shameful coward bullshit right here. Gotta be honest, I wouldn't want to go to a new version of SA run by the same band of moderators/admins. The insane amount of secrecy about every decision in the past 2ish years etc, and the obvious clinging to a modicum of power. It's just gross.
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Also Renee is accusing everyone involved in BnR of being a sexpest
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:im sure thats all being considered but personally i do not give a poo poo about the wife beating absentee landord of this websites Propert Rights It's not just his rights - using a cache of e-mails for promotion that wasn't explicitly signed off on (e.g, e-mails used for login poo poo) is I'm pretty damned sure a felony. That's why all the sites that harvest your data have you click through a privacy policy. If any of that data belongs to European citizens it's even worse. Do not gently caress with PII you can go to jail if you don't know what you're doing
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Emacs Headroom posted:This is some shameful coward bullshit right here. why are you still posting on the abuser’s website if the entire place disgusts you so much?
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RaySmuckles posted:my ideal scenario is finding a way to keep something awful but without lowtax, even if that means buying him out. i still maintain this will never happen because 1) yes, lowtax, known for his many achievements and talents, is going to move on confidently to his next project after decades of barely being involved with a web forum that generates his entire income 2) even assuming he hit his head and had a personality shift and decided to sell the place, my prayers would be with the Ernst and Young accountants who tried to figure out the finances of somethingawful llc. A $100k IRS bill isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of standard accounting and finance practices
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Kaedric posted:Gotta be honest, I wouldn't want to go to a new version of SA run by the same band of moderators/admins. The insane amount of secrecy about every decision in the past 2ish years etc, and the obvious clinging to a modicum of power. It's just gross.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:why are you still posting on the abuser’s website if the entire place disgusts you so much? good point. gently caress this place
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