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Cyrano4747 posted:That said the mixed drinks section has some stuff that I kinda want to try. 
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Cyrano4747 posted:I don’t even know where this should go but I figure people here might enjoy it. M Is that kinda of pizza available in modern day or is it basically deep dish pizza now? It looks delish and I want it in my tummy right now.
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quantumfoam posted:I would say being a member of any nations ammo transport team during WW2 must have been one of the worst/most horrible jobs in existence, 24/7/365. Why is that, can you tell me more about that role? I would have guessed that ammo transport would try to avoid coming under fire as much as possible, except when delivering to an active battle.
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Chamale posted:Why is that, can you tell me more about that role? I would have guessed that ammo transport would try to avoid coming under fire as much as possible, except when delivering to an active battle. It's not just small arms, it's stuff like ship and artillery rounds. And it's the 1940s, so that stuff is goddamn volatile and also moved by muscle power. You carry around heavy explosives, carefully, while being yelled at to go faster so the real soldiers can fight. Day in, day out, for the whole war.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Fauld_explosion Stuff just used to explode.
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Alchenar posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Fauld_explosion  It's not often you can express a chemical explosion using kT.* *ugh, I mean usefully, pendants
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Alchenar posted:Stuff just used to explode.
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Can't believe that they felt the need to specify that the Hefeteig is to be made nach Vorschrift, how else would you be making it, Genosse?
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HEY GUNS posted:solid contender for the next thread title Do it. Anyway, was there any particular method to naming RAF bases back in the day? My family and I were confused that my Grandfather's flight log had Hastings to Waterloo in 20 minutes back in 1942 before realizing it was referring to RAF bases in Sierra Leone and it got me curious.
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Oh god after 1,000 years of dissertation work I'm free. If anyone has any questions about the formation, culture, or fighting of the Polish communist army and guerrillas on the Eastern Front of WWII, feel free to ask any questions. Otherwise I just wanted to post in joy in a thread I've taken many a needed break with over the years. Tank destroyer-type arguments helped keep me sane in the darkest days.
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Could we built a tank-destroyer battleship. Like a battleship with a fixed forward gun, to take out other battleships?
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Raenir Salazar posted:Could we built a tank-destroyer battleship. Like a battleship with a fixed forward gun, to take out other battleships? So, a bigger ironclad?
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So we got into a deep discussion of American food at breakfast today, and I went on a long unprompted soliloquy about the great American tradition of co opting the foods of oppressed people and making it into what middle American white folks eat on a regular basis while simultaneously ripping on immigration and borders and whatnot. My daughter asked "what about Native American food" and I was a bit at a loss...while slave food and Chinese food et al have become staples of modern American culture, I couldn't think of any immediate examples of NA food culture having widespread popularity in the US. Then my wife, who was probably trying to get me to stop talking, said "Mexican food, idiot" and went back to her coffee. I think she's probably right, but I don't really know enough about either actual Mexican food nor NA food to have a strong opinion on this. Do you think it is accurate to say that NA food is broadly represented in modern American Tex-Mex, and if so, does that make it the MOST popular oppressed people food?
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bewbies posted:So we got into a deep discussion of American food at breakfast today, and I went on a long unprompted soliloquy about the great American tradition of co opting the foods of oppressed people and making it into what middle American white folks eat on a regular basis while simultaneously ripping on immigration and borders and whatnot. I would say New Mexican food is probably closer to Native American food than Tex-Mex. It's also worth pointing out that a lot of what's eaten on reservations nowadays is not based on traditional diets such as the "Three Sisters", ie beans, squash, and corn, but rather on the usually lovely rations that the government gave out in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.. Thus, frybread, which in modern times is a staple, only came about because the flour the gov't issued was poor-quality and frying it was one of the only ways to make it palatable. Edit: Posole for sure seems to have pre-Columbian origins. Beardless fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:Could we built a tank-destroyer battleship. Like a battleship with a fixed forward gun, to take out other battleships? Have you met USS Vesuvius?
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Xotl posted:Oh god after 1,000 years of dissertation work I'm free. If anyone has any questions about the formation, culture, or fighting of the Polish communist army and guerrillas on the Eastern Front of WWII, feel free to ask any questions. Otherwise I just wanted to post in joy in a thread I've taken many a needed break with over the years. Tank destroyer-type arguments helped keep me sane in the darkest days. Congrats, but I can't comprehend your enthusisam. Speaking only for myself, after finishing and submitting my manuscript on the pre-WW1 Royal Navy I never want to hear Jackie Fisher's name again let alone answer questions about the subject. Not without dinner and drinks first, at least, and  makes that essentially impossible.
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bewbies posted:My daughter asked "what about Native American food" and I was a bit at a loss...while slave food and Chinese food et al have become staples of modern American culture, I couldn't think of any immediate examples of NA food culture having widespread popularity in the US. Think of of the foods that are traditionally associated with Thanksgiving. These were the foods of the Eastern Woodland Native Americans. They've become so integrated with contemporary American cuisine that we forget that we Corn, squash, beans (the big three), turkey, pumpkins, potatoes, (native) cranberries, cornbread, etc.
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I feel like there's probably native american foods that slipped into the modern american diet that have had their origins mostly erased, since there's been many waves of trying to erase native influences throughout the US in addition to erasing the people themselves. Although there's also an aspect of how native cuisine would've been revolutionized by the foods brought by Europeans just like how the old world was transformed by potatoes and peppers, so it can be hard to sort out. Hawaiian food is technically native, but it's very tightly squeezed between influences from the US and Japan.  Hawaiian as the day is long. Cyrano4747 posted:I don’t even know where this should go but I figure people here might enjoy it. M I think that's up the Anti-Food Porn thread's alley, of you want to put it some place that's more specialized for that sort of thing. SlothfulCobra fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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bewbies posted:So we got into a deep discussion of American food at breakfast today, and I went on a long unprompted soliloquy about the great American tradition of co opting the foods of oppressed people and making it into what middle American white folks eat on a regular basis while simultaneously ripping on immigration and borders and whatnot. I can't speak to Mexican food but I can talk about some other influenced foods. Fried Green Tomatoes was a Native American food before being adopted by the South. Much of New England cuisine is Native American in it's roots. The various forms of succotash are based on NA dishes. Same for the clam bake. The modern baked beans we eat are a variation on Native American recipes. The original recipe being beans, maple syrup and fat, often bear but other fats would work. The modern adaptation is molasses and pork fat. Corn fritters also introduced to us by the Native Americans. And of course Maple Syrup.
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bewbies posted:My daughter asked "what about Native American food" and I was a bit at a loss... Raw Foods
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The lowly potato is a pretty strong contender.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Congrats, but I can't comprehend your enthusisam. Speaking only for myself, after finishing and submitting my manuscript on the pre-WW1 Royal Navy I never want to hear Jackie Fisher's name again let alone answer questions about the subject. Not without dinner and drinks first, at least, and It helps that there's no comparable Jackie Fisher figure in my narrative. I've seen the phenomenon you mention a lot, of course, and even commented to myself a week ago that I'm surprised I still like this stuff. The only part I'm actually tired of is the Jewish component--not because of the usual reasons, but because Poland and the Jews (and then communism on top) is such an enormous minefield full of deep-bench hyperspecific research, moral argumentation, and cherry-picked datasets that every sentence you write on it has to be workshopped 37 ways from Sunday to ensure you haven't inadvertantly committed yourself to Judeo-Bolshevism (or believing in Judeo-Bolshevism) in someone's eyes. Basically like trying to write on the Israel-Palestine issue in any sort of detached, unbiased fashion, I would guess. It's a small portion of my overall dissertation, but took as much work as any full chapter, and now I basically have PTSD attacks any time I have to consider the topic. Learned a lot of neat stuff about the hows and whys of Jewish guerrillas and communist Polish guerrillas fighting together, though.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Could we built a tank-destroyer battleship. Like a battleship with a fixed forward gun, to take out other battleships? Well not a battleship, but they did put a 12" gun on a sub. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_M1
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bewbies posted:I think she's probably right, but I don't really know enough about either actual Mexican food nor NA food to have a strong opinion on this. Do you think it is accurate to say that NA food is broadly represented in modern American Tex-Mex, and if so, does that make it the MOST popular oppressed people food? OH GOD DID SOMEONE SAY MEXICAN FOOD, I'VE BEEN SUMMONED! So at it's most basic level, Tex-Mex is a weird hybrid of cowboy food, NA food, Spanish food and Mexican food, all combining to form it's own thing. This is most obvious in the usage of cumin, large quantities of cheese, and things being served on cast-iron skillets. The biggest indicator of native cuisine in North American food will be the appearance of the humble tomato and the chili, the former of which was first cultivated in Central Mexico around 500 BC and most likely moved north as far as the Pueblo people long before the Spanish conquest of the New World, and the latter being a Thing in the new world ever since ancient Mesoamericans first domesticated it in 6,000 BC. In Mexico proper there is still tons of NA foods being eaten, by simple virtue of the populations being larger during the colonization period. In Mexico City you can still find places serving traditional aztec taco fillings like corn smut/ant larvae, and that doesn't even go into the fact that I don't think there's a taboo protein source in the country except maybe cats, as the Mexica people were not known for being picky eaters. Honestly outside the obvious new world foods like tomatoes, potatoes and chili peppers, I think the major NA food you see everywhere in North America is maple syrup, the Northeastern tribes were using maple syrup and maple sugar for so long I don't think we have any hard numbers for when they first started draining tree sap and boiling it down. SlothfulCobra posted:I feel like there's probably native american foods that slipped into the modern american diet that have had their origins mostly erased, since there's been many waves of trying to erase native influences throughout the US in addition to erasing the people themselves. my lunch today involved Japanese noodles, spam, a broth that was derived from a Chinese soup and kalua pork and no one here would bat an eye at that combo.
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Where I live, the Native Americans ate salmon, salmon, and more salmon. So that would be native food.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Like I don’t want their pizza but they still know how to make tasty apple pastries. Making a tasty pastry is pretty much required to be German as I understand it. My neighbour back home grew up in Germany during the war and she's an incredible baker.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I feel like there's probably native american foods that slipped into the modern american diet that have had their origins mostly erased, since there's been many waves of trying to erase native influences throughout the US in addition to erasing the people themselves. We can still look at more recent stuff to see that there's still some stuff to discover. For one, we should look more into blue corn since there are some good drought-tolerant varietals. For another recent one, fry bread keeps bouncing back and forth; it's now a Tex-Mex ingredient c/o chalupas, which is not just some goofy Taco Bell thing. If anybody's looking for an excuse to try Native American food around the 4th of July then I suggest this web page that could have come from the 90s as an inspiration: http://www.cookingpost.com/recipes.htm You know it's good because they'd rather cook food and sell ingredients than make a web site. Also, I have nothing to do with New Mexico but I know there are a few people on here that do and I'm amazed (a-maized?) they haven't taken over the thread for two pages on this. Actually, I'm kind of depressed that it hasn't happened but I suppose the ancient history thread would be a better home. Before I finish this derail, I'd just like to point out that posting random stuff from cookbooks isn't entirely fair because they get padded out with some crazy-rear end poo poo. I slowly accumulate random cookbooks local to areas of cuisine I'm interested in and a lot of them are community fundraiser things that have some pretty bizarre stuff in them. If I have some time--since Cyrano posted that into the pizza thread--I was going to go skimming through them for pizza recipes to show that Americans can gently caress it up too. Somebody PM me if they have some crazy Louisiana cookbook that is 50% etouffee recipes.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Also, I have nothing to do with New Mexico but I know there are a few people on here that do and I'm amazed (a-maized?) they haven't taken over the thread for two pages on this. Actually, I'm kind of depressed that it hasn't happened but I suppose the ancient history thread would be a better home. corn pork chili nuclear research
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HEY GUNS posted:it's me i'm the new mexican, hope you enjoy: You and your... your... CUMIN!
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HEY GUNS posted:it's me i'm the new mexican, hope you enjoy: If your mercenaries were to make the ideal 30 Years War pseudo chili, what would it look like?
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Arbite posted:Do it. RAF bases were generally just named after the nearest settlement - in the UK it was usually the parish the base was in (or the parish the entrance was in, if the base was large enough to cross boundaries). Sometimes they'd opt for a different name if that method would result in a station name that already existed, was too long or was obviously going to be the butt of jokes. There was one RAF airfield built in the 1930s where the residents of the village it was actually next to insisted on the base being named after a more distant hamlet to stop their property prices being affected! Waterloo and Hastings are both places in Sierra Leone, so it's more a case of "British colonists naming places after military victories and bits of southern England they miss" which then gave airfields put next to them. There was a bit more flexibility when it came to naming satellite airfields and emergency landing grounds, which officially were just off-sites of the parent base and had dull numeric designations. They were usually given themed codenames. The dispersal fields of RAF Mingaladon at Yangon, Burma, were all named after brands of Scotch whiskey.
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bewbies posted:So we got into a deep discussion of American food at breakfast today, and I went on a long unprompted soliloquy about the great American tradition of co opting the foods of oppressed people and making it into what middle American white folks eat on a regular basis while simultaneously ripping on immigration and borders and whatnot. You could take a look at the different foods they serve at the National Museum of the American Indian: http://www.mitsitamcafe.com/content/menus.asp Also, chocolate is pretty popular these days, particularly with young people like your child. And chocolate is an indigenous food from the Americas. Rocko Bonaparte posted:
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Idle chatter at a tin soldier store today: The finns weren't "without empathy", since they could have destroyed the railway station at Murmansk during Silberfuchs but didn't. I thought the finns simply failed to reach it.. which is true?
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The Finnish passivity on the Leningrad front is itself sufficient argument for the lack of enthusiasm in their alliance with Hitler. In Murmansk they tried early in the war but didn't try again. I don't see what empathy has to do with anything though. Fangz fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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Tias posted:Idle chatter at a tin soldier store today: The finns weren't "without empathy", since they could have destroyed the railway station at Murmansk during Silberfuchs but didn't. I thought the finns simply failed to reach it.. which is true? Both, kinda. The Finnish forces encountered serious resistance, which stalled operations, but they got things moving again at the beginning of November, thanks to German reinforcements. However, the US exerted diplomatic pressure, which caused the Finnish high command to order the Finnish offensive to stop in mid-November. However, there is no guarantee they could have achieved their goals even if they had continued the offensive.
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drgitlin posted:You could take a look at the different foods they serve at the National Museum of the American Indian: http://www.mitsitamcafe.com/content/menus.asp Maple syrup and peanuts are other staples of the modern American diet native to America. In addition to the three sisters there's also a range of produce from the east that don't get as much attention: concord and muscadine grapes, highbush blueberries, pawpaw, ramps, serviceberries, and of course the range of mushrooms, many of which would be familiar to European colonists, like morels and boletes.
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drgitlin posted:There’s a whole Cajun and Creole thread in goons with spoons. Speaking of, Cajun was what I was going to post re: foodways that've had a lot of influences from indigenous people. There was a huge amount of daily trading and cultural mixing between the french acadians settling in backwater louisiana, freed/escaped slaves, and local tribes, and the resulting food is a mishmash of all three. The really famous example of this is probably the still-common practice of adding filé (ground, dried sassafras leaves) to gumbo as a thickener/flavoring, which local Choctaw groups were doing for other foods well before Europeans settled the area. eke out fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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Interestingly enough, my (Danish) dad cooked gumbo and jambalaya for me since I was a kid. He's a blues musician and picked it up in New Orleans. The field between African, French and NA cooking is just magical - I was fortunate enough to get some in Florida when I went there in 2015.
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Tias posted:The field between African, French and NA cooking is just magical - I was fortunate enough to get some in Florida when I went there in 2015. My wife grew up in Trinidad, in the West Indies. Their food is a mix of African, Native Caribbean, Indian, and Chinese food. It is amazing.
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Ensign Expendable (or anyone), do you have any interesting trivia or hard facts on the rear facing turret machine guns on especially Soviet (but also others - Japanese?) tanks (BT-7, KV, IS)? Like what philosophy were the designers following with these decisions (and why didn't other tanks have them)? How useful were they considered in practise? And did any tank crews MacGyver themselves some type of jury rigged Nahverteidigungswaffe for explosive close defence? Nenonen fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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