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pmchem posted:They should just force the entire NFL to quarantine then go together to a place like New Zealand and do the season there. With enough testing and post flight isolation you could ensure the season was COVID free. That would be so cool but literally no player would agree to do it even if it was logistically possible. Also games would need to be tape delayed.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That would be so cool but literally no player would agree to do it even if it was logistically possible. Also games would need to be tape delayed. How will it work for the Pat's if the tapes are delayed?
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Jul 11, 2020 01:54
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pmchem posted:They should just force the entire NFL to quarantine then go together to a place like New Zealand and do the season there. With enough testing and post flight isolation you could ensure the season was COVID free. Because the teams require a literal army of personnel to support them, and the players are not going to agree to be away from their families for 8 months, which means they need a couple armies to support the families as well.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:02
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pmchem posted:They should just force the entire NFL to quarantine then go together to a place like New Zealand and do the season there. With enough testing and post flight isolation you could ensure the season was COVID free. Why the gently caress on Earth would New Zealand let them in?
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Jul 11, 2020 02:03
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Skwirl posted:Why the gently caress on Earth would New Zealand let them in? Billions of dollars and incredible PR. To be clear, they have a stellar quarantine protocol.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:14
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Thaddius the Large posted:Because the teams require a literal army of personnel to support them, and the players are not going to agree to be away from their families for 8 months, which means they need a couple armies to support the families as well. Let’s face it, it’s basically a 5 month dislocation for a bunch of millionaires. It could be done. The NFL could put up for housing, they can afford it. NZ surely has plenty of empty hotels and rental properties right now, it’s a pandemic and their winter season. If the choice is doing this or a cancelled season and nobody getting paid, the players would do it. So would owners. Staff would need to be taken care of with something extra.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:18
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Skwirl posted:Why the gently caress on Earth would New Zealand let them in? New Zealand let in the Avatar production crew because of the supposed economic benefits. In theory the same could apply to the NFL, they would just need to pay for two weeks of quarantine. Once they're out of that, it's business as usual. E: New Zealand has had no cases in the community for about a month, and the last case acquired in the community was two months ago. We have a handful (25 maybe) that have been picked up through mandatory testing as part of quarantine for anyone entering the country.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:21
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pmchem posted:They should just force the entire NFL to quarantine then go together to a place like New Zealand and do the season there. With enough testing and post flight isolation you could ensure the season was COVID free. The wealthy in America run this country with the help of the uselessly stupid that they're not much smarter than.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:22
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Jono C posted:New Zealand let in the Avatar production crew because of the supposed economic benefits. In theory the same could apply to the NFL, they would just need to pay for two weeks of quarantine. Once they're out of that, it's business as usual. You're talking about an order of magnitude fewer people between Avatar cast and crew and the entire NFL even assuming none of them brought family.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:44
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Skwirl posted:You're talking about an order of magnitude fewer people between Avatar cast and crew and the entire NFL even assuming none of them brought family. True, but New Zealand used to be heavily dependent on tourism to survive and that industry is dead, so there should be plenty of hotels up for the task. The bigger problem would likely be the players being bored out of their minds and getting up to mischief.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:50
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Jono C posted:True, but New Zealand used to be heavily dependent on tourism to survive and that industry is dead, so there should be plenty of hotels up for the task. 1760 bored athletes away from all their friends, family and spouses, in an unfamiliar country with a healthy drinking culture, I don't see how that could raise any problems.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:58
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Lolling at the idea of the NFL literally destroying an entire loving country so people can pretend We're Back
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Jul 11, 2020 03:07
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Where the gently caress do they even play? How many Rugby and Soccer fields does New Zealand have and how willing would the teams that currently use them be willing to share?
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Jul 11, 2020 03:16
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There are plenty of rugby stadiums in NZ that could easily be modified to suit NFL games. The NFL is generally in rugby's offseason, so clashes there would be minimal.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:20
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Skwirl posted:Where the gently caress do they even play? How many Rugby and Soccer fields does New Zealand have and how willing would the teams that currently use them be willing to share? and how many of those fields would be rendered unplayable for months after 2 NFL games? The medical facilities that teams are used to having would likely be more than NZ's hospital system has for their entire population. Hell going by https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s,12%20sponsors 65 players 30 coaches 35 members of the front office (player personnel, PR, digital media, operations) 15 equipment staff 12 sponsors 8 security agents 6 training staff 5 members of the radio crew 4 doctors X 32 5,760 in just loving staff
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Jul 11, 2020 03:24
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LOTR is basically an enduring footage roll for tourists and football would be like fifteen seconds of tony romo saying how great the golf is in NZ and maybe a blimp shot on MNF.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:24
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New Zealanders are a nice and good people and it would be a total rear end in a top hat move to send them Tom Br*dy, noteworthy piece of human poo poo, for them to have to deal with for an extended period of time.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:30
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Has anyone seriously suggested this or are we kicking the can around spitballing about something that will never happen? If it's the second I'd be for giving it a shot and think the fields would be fine and medical care could be figured out. NZ would have to figure out strict procedures about quarantining early on, which they've been doing but probably not on this level. If it's the first...yeah the owners need to be convinced they'd make money off of it because that's the
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Jul 11, 2020 03:31
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Imagine going back on a Forums Time Machine to January and telling TFF that in 6 months we would be discussing the NFL fleeing to *checks notes* New Zealand, to be able to play some wack version of the NFL season. lol.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:34
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Also why pay NZ a billion dollars when you can get a tax cut and a free stadium from somewhere in texas/florida/arizona and not actually have to deal with any actual quarantining.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:34
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hifi posted:Also why pay NZ a billion dollars when you can get a tax cut and a free stadium from somewhere in texas/florida/arizona and not actually have to deal with any actual quarantining. Again, the "where would the play" issue comes up. Florida at least has made it very clear their college stadiums are gonna be used by college students.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:38
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Arizona and florida could probably convert all their baseball spring training fields into fooball fields.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:44
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hifi posted:Arizona and florida could probably convert all their baseball spring training fields into fooball fields. When I think of safe places to travel to right now Arizona and Florida are definitely on the top of the list. Man the NBA is hosed. e: I haven't been paying attention, what is the NHL planning? Do they have a central location or are they just going hog wild?
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Jul 11, 2020 03:45
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hifi posted:Arizona and florida could probably convert all their baseball spring training fields into fooball fields. Isn't the MLB also foolishly pushing forward with reopening? I bet they don't want their fields for next spring training torn to shreds, especially since they'll probably be breaking in a bunch of rookie players.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:46
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they're all doing spring training in their home cities. I think with the diamondbacks specifically it's at chase field too. the cost of the fields is whatever and they'd have like... months to fix it
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hifi posted:they're all doing spring training in their home cities. I think with the diamondbacks specifically it's at chase field too. When does spring training start? It's before Spring actually starts, I know that.
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Grittybeard posted:When I think of safe places to travel to right now Arizona and Florida are definitely on the top of the list. Two hubs. One in Vegas and one in Toronto I think
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Jul 11, 2020 03:53
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The NHL is all in Canada now so they might actually pull it off.
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Skwirl posted:When does spring training start? It's before Spring actually starts, I know that. feb 12 but you'd think the super bowl would automatically be at the cardinals or some florida team's stadium
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hifi posted:feb 12 but you'd think the super bowl would automatically be at the cardinals or some florida team's stadium So they'd have a month and a half assuming all the post season games are played at universities who lost too many students to covid to continue the season.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:and how many of those fields would be rendered unplayable for months after 2 NFL games? The medical facilities that teams are used to having would likely be more than NZ's hospital system has for their entire population. I'm pretty sure a country with 5 million people has sufficient capacity for a fraction of 5760
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Grittybeard posted:When I think of safe places to travel to right now Arizona and Florida are definitely on the top of the list. They're doing 2 hub cities; Edmonton and Toronto, they're doing a Round Robin play-in for the playoffs There will be like 6 hockey games per day, 3 in each hub city.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:59
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Skwirl posted:So they'd have a month and a half assuming all the post season games are played at universities who lost too many students to covid to continue the season. they've fixed sod on bye weeks. poorly, but a month and a half gives you a lot of time to fix the mistakes.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I'm pretty sure a country with 5 million people has sufficient capacity for a fraction of 5760 Bed capacity sure. Imaging equipment at the stadiums? I'm saying the high dollar poo poo that would normally be reserved for the horribly injured but is available if you have the money in America
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Jul 11, 2020 04:18
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The NFL is banking on this going away and will start the season. When high profile guys get sick they’ll be forced to make a decision about the number of games 2020 is going to join 1982 and 1987 as an asterisk year when you look at stats
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Jul 11, 2020 04:31
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The NFL's budget is obscenely large, as will be the loss in player salaries and owner profits if no season is played. With that kind of money on the table, people need to think a little more creatively about making things work. You don't need billion dollar stadiums to play football this season. You need a handful of fields that are 100 yards long, lots of sod, poles to string cameras from, and isolation. This is easily doable if people have the willpower to make it happen. You could even do it in some random part of the midwest -- there's plenty of goddamn land -- if the NFL and NFLPA can be strict enough about quarantine procedures. The hard part about picking a random part of the USA that can successfully be quarantined (i.e., no cities) is simply finding housing for all the people needed. New Zealand solves that problem.
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Jul 11, 2020 04:34
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Keith Atherton posted:The NFL is banking on this going away and will start the season. When high profile guys get sick they’ll be forced to make a decision about the number of games High profile guys you say?
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Jul 11, 2020 04:40
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:
I think in context the statement meant "Jews aren't our enemy" which makes a lot more sense. Bad phrasing but heart in the right place imo.
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Jul 11, 2020 04:43
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Skwirl posted:High profile guys you say? I don’t think the owners give a poo poo about each other and he’s a billionaire so he’ll be fine. Won’t affect their policy IMHO
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Keith Atherton posted:I don’t think the owners give a poo poo about each other and he’s a billionaire so he’ll be fine. Won’t affect their policy IMHO I dunno, some of what I've read suggests that if you draw the short straw with COVID-19, no amount of money saves you at this point.
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