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Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

If you're looking at 2020 models then yeah, the M340i is a lot more car than the 330

3.0-liter inline 6-cylinder at 382 HP compared to a 2.0-liter inline 4-cylinder at 255

Plus lots of Ms and color stripes all over everything, of course

The M340i also has the advantage of not looking anything like the 2021 M3!

Right, the reviews I've read/watched are saying basically 'it's as close to an M3 as we can get until the new M3 drops'

Also from looking around the available tune's for it are now 460 - 510 stage 1-2 respectively

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jink
May 8, 2002

Drop it like it's Hot.
Taco Defender

thealphabetsez posted:

The local Cars & Coffee I help with restarted this past Saturday; I took the E92 out to mark the occasion and on the way back decided to lump in the weekly grocer trip where I snapped a pic while in queue. As I was waiting I received notification of a USPS delivery, turns out it was a USSR delivery via Moscow Post, heh :ussr:
The Slon DCT covers had arrived! I'm very much looking forward to installing these and while the side cover may take a bit more, "motivation" considering the work involved to gain access to the top bolts, I'm eager to not worry about any seeping. Crested 15.5k miles while out too!









Obvious comment about your amazing M3 aside, the DCT cover looks great! I have a 335is (DCT) and have been considering a cover from BMS or the one you linked... but I am still in the process of swapping the M3 rear end (2.56 -> 3.15 ratio) and custom driveshaft in the car. Can't convince myself to spend close to a grand on these covers until the car is running again; this work started in DECEMBER... :(

HOWEVER I am very interested in hearing feedback about the cover!

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Blue On Blue posted:

Right, the reviews I've read/watched are saying basically 'it's as close to an M3 as we can get until the new M3 drops'

Also from looking around the available tune's for it are now 460 - 510 stage 1-2 respectively

why would you buy this car and not wait for the new M3 (other than the awful grille)

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

why would you buy this car and not wait for the new M3 (other than the awful grille)

price mainly, as I imagine the new M3 will be at least 10-20k more than a fully loaded M340i

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
its gonna be worth the additional money, almost certainly, and will retain value better

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Honestly I can't imagine owning a car with that grille on it. If I were in the market for a sedan I'd get a gently used M340i in a year or two when people start trading em in for the new M3

thealphabetsez
Jun 1, 2004

jink posted:

Obvious comment about your amazing M3 aside, the DCT cover looks great! I have a 335is (DCT) and have been considering a cover from BMS or the one you linked... but I am still in the process of swapping the M3 rear end (2.56 -> 3.15 ratio) and custom driveshaft in the car. Can't convince myself to spend close to a grand on these covers until the car is running again; this work started in DECEMBER... :(

HOWEVER I am very interested in hearing feedback about the cover!

Hell yeah! Your project sounds far more fun than anything I've got going on. A bit of an eye opener, the 2.56 gearing and all, although seems appropriate given the low-end torque output of the N55. What are you expecting for changes to daily driving? RPM @ 60MPH now vs. 3.15? That ratio jump is sizable, I'd expect you'll be far more inclined toward smoke shows. Get back in the garage! ;)

Something that makes the Slon cover stand out is the inclusion of a pick-up spacer which accommodates that additional internal depth. I'm debating about picking up an SSP filter to throw in while draining the fluid to install the cover. Still waiting on the loc-tite liquid gasket any way.

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Honestly I can't imagine owning a car with that grille on it. If I were in the market for a sedan I'd get a gently used M340i in a year or two when people start trading em in for the new M3

Grille grossness aside, it'll be interesting to watch the second-hand market for turbo-charged M cars over the next 5-7 years. The F8X is still too young to have found any real appreciation, heck E9X is only just ticking up for some configurations, but when it does, to what extent? Or do we see something different? Next-gen M3/4 is similar power plant, with new tech, different packaging/styling, but ultimately it's iPhone X --> 11. What will be the next I-4 --> I-6, or I-6 --> V8 moment?

Pr0kjayhawk
Nov 30, 2002

:pervert:Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers:pervert:

thealphabetsez posted:

Grille grossness aside, it'll be interesting to watch the second-hand market for turbo-charged M cars over the next 5-7 years. The F8X is still too young to have found any real appreciation, heck E9X is only just ticking up for some configurations, but when it does, to what extent? Or do we see something different? Next-gen M3/4 is similar power plant, with new tech, different packaging/styling, but ultimately it's iPhone X --> 11. What will be the next I-4 --> I-6, or I-6 --> V8 moment?

Until the M3 goes back to having an actual unique engine, it’s not going to have that kind of impact. The next M3’s engine debuted first in a drat SUV.

Every generation loses something that made previous ones great. Some people care, some don’t. Personally, I stopped caring around the time the V8 and hydraulic steering went away. Everything is just too drat fast now.

Excuse me I have some youths to yell at.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

the fact that newer BMW drivers accept numb steering is insane to me.

Alarbus
Mar 31, 2010

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

the fact that newer BMW drivers accept numb steering is insane to me.

It bothered me for about two weeks then I stopped noticing it. I did notice the fixed rate steering on my Dad's non adaptive steering F30, but uh, Stockholm Syndrome?

jink
May 8, 2002

Drop it like it's Hot.
Taco Defender

thealphabetsez posted:

Hell yeah! Your project sounds far more fun than anything I've got going on. A bit of an eye opener, the 2.56 gearing and all, although seems appropriate given the low-end torque output of the N55. What are you expecting for changes to daily driving? RPM @ 60MPH now vs. 3.15? That ratio jump is sizable, I'd expect you'll be far more inclined toward smoke shows. Get back in the garage! ;)

Something that makes the Slon cover stand out is the inclusion of a pick-up spacer which accommodates that additional internal depth. I'm debating about picking up an SSP filter to throw in while draining the fluid to install the cover. Still waiting on the loc-tite liquid gasket any way.

Very true... I'd love to stick with 2.56 but the ultimate goal is M3 GTS software on the TCU. There were efforts in 2018 that I was a part of (on SpoolStreet forums) to convince the non-M DCT to change programming modes. This first entailed the GWS (interior shifter) along with VO changes but the community realized that the TCU has a lookup table for shift points based on final drive. Long story short, the 3.15 is the easiest way to hit the TCU's desired range, but a 10% variance is also allowed via an 8 series R&P to achieve 2.81.... Will see how bad it is on my N54 but the car is now a weekend car as the i3 is my DD... The smoke show is certainly on my mind as well as any long range cruising that has to be done. I found a way to fix this in the future via https://diffsonline.com/bmw-e9x-m3-dct-transmission-differentials.html but the project needs to work before dumping more cash (same reason I am waiting to pull trigger on DCT upgrades). This car is also getting rebuilt Ohlins from 3DM. :D

[Edit] Forgot to include a teaser video that the big brain OG poster came up with... IT RIPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDN5ZgKqVUw

Awesome to know about the Slon! The extra fluid certainly comes in handy for maintaining temps. I think you posted about the group-buy previously? I am curious about installation and how the filling procedure goes. It looks like a bear.
How are your clutches handling life? Any desire to go with Dodson or similar clutchpack upgrades?

jink fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jul 11, 2020

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

the fact that newer BMW drivers accept numb steering is insane to me.

My F30 is my spacious, reliable kid-hauling DD. Basically an Accord except it also has RWD, a nicer interior, and is considerably faster. The numb steering is more than made up for by the fact that it’s at 90k miles with nothing broken and still feels almost new. But yeah when it finally goes I’m going to let the mask drop and replace it with a Prius or CUV or something. Got a Miata for when I want to feel the road I’m driving on.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Luckily I've never sat in a BMW other than my own so I dunno what Numb Steering means

Sounds bad though!

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Luckily I've never sat in a BMW other than my own so I dunno what Numb Steering means

Sounds bad though!

Wait, you haven’t tried the N button yet?

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
I get the impression that driving enthusiasts have moved on from buying new BMWs.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Residency Evil posted:

I get the impression that driving enthusiasts have moved on from buying new BMWs.

At least with the non-M cars, I think so. The regular 3-series is a lot less of a sporty driver's car than it used to be, and a lot larger.

It's still sharper and faster than most other comfortable, practical 4-door daily drivers so it still has that going for it, but it's a low bar. BMW sells a shitload of them though, I doubt they are lamenting the loss of the handful of purists.

But also I think, as usual, the most vocal internet enthusiasts aren't the ones buying new cars of any kind.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Residency Evil posted:

I get the impression that driving enthusiasts have moved on from buying new BMWs.

They continue to segment the market further and more granularly. And I think a lot of the traditional enthusiasts as we think of them are buying other stuff or used stuff, or other used stuff.

I don’t regret moving to the G90 four years ago when I had a 100 mile each way freeway commute, and I absolutely don’t regret coming back into the F90 now that I drive once a week for maximum smileage.

How is the new 2GC selling anyways? I would guess we all unilaterally hate it here, but its probably selling to the target audience...

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
I have a parking buddy at work today!



If you're driving any gen BMW after that you're driving a bloated, soulless, pile of poo poo.

I'll try to get some less lovely pictures later.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

fknlo posted:

I have a parking buddy at work today!



If you're driving any gen BMW after that you're driving a bloated, soulless, pile of poo poo.

I'll try to get some less lovely pictures later.

Yeah I agree everything since the E30 is garbage

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

fknlo posted:

I have a parking buddy at work today!



If you're driving any gen BMW after that you're driving a bloated, soulless, pile of poo poo.

I'll try to get some less lovely pictures later.

Yeah man you should tell that to the stupid rear end in a top hat with that f whatever ahaha

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
It's definitely fun seeing how much larger my car is than the E30 in person. Like you know it's way bigger but until you put them next to each other it's hard to really quantify.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

fknlo posted:

It's definitely fun seeing how much larger my car is than the E30 in person. Like you know it's way bigger but until you put them next to each other it's hard to really quantify.

Then you crash sideways into a tree at 120 and walk away and go 'lol wow' and the E30 guy crashes into a large dog at 45 and is killed, which isn't that hard to quantify

I own a bunch of stupid old cars that are 'fun' and "full of soul" but if I am going to have a serious accident I'd rather be in my bloated E92

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

the joke about the e92 is that it's pretty safe for the occupants but insanely unsafe for pedestrians.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

fknlo posted:

I have a parking buddy at work today!



If you're driving any gen BMW after that you're driving a bloated, soulless, pile of poo poo.

I'll try to get some less lovely pictures later.

e34
e36
e46 too tbh, more boat but still fun
clownshoe

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Ether Frenzy posted:

Then you crash sideways into a tree at 120 and walk away and go 'lol wow' and the E30 guy crashes into a large dog at 45 and is killed, which isn't that hard to quantify

I own a bunch of stupid old cars that are 'fun' and "full of soul" but if I am going to have a serious accident I'd rather be in my bloated E92

Yeah, for my purposes I made the right decision. I'm sure I'll end up with an E92 or E46 M3 at some point as well of course but the F80 is a really good DD. I just wish I'd been able to wait another year to buy as the prices have absolutely cratered on the early model years as they go out of warranty.

PabloBOOM
Mar 10, 2004
Hunchback of DOOM
Say what you will about the n54, but I am still stoked that I got my e93 for $5700.

(No I still haven't spent the time to find out where the oil leak is coming from)

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

fknlo posted:

I have a parking buddy at work today!



If you're driving any gen BMW after that you're driving a bloated, soulless, pile of poo poo.

I'll try to get some less lovely pictures later.

please fix your potato camera

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

BraveUlysses posted:

please fix your potato camera

I have no idea what's up with my phone camera right now. All the pictures I took came out some degree of lovely. It's a Pixel 3 so it's not some ancient thing either.

fknlo fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 12, 2020

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
Every new release of Android breaks something on Pixel phones

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Just when we thought we had seen the peak of wagon madness on BaT this thing shows up

:jiggled:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2017-bmw-328d-xdrive-sports-wagon-individual-package/

the important bits:
17k Miles
2.0-liter Turbodiesel Inline-Four

Eight-Speed Automatic Transmission
xDrive All-Wheel Drive
BMW Individual Rallye Green
Black SensaTec
M Sport & Premium Packages
Technology & Lighting Packages
Driving Assistance Package
Adaptive LED Headlights
Head-Up Display
Navigation
Apple CarPlay
Cruise Control
Automatic Climate Control
Heated Front Sport Seats
Manufacturer's Literature
DCS Report
Clean Carfax Report

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug
Sad we don't get to hear from the maniac that ordered the car that way, also sad that it's left Seattle to be destroyed in the Northeast (unless a goon rescues it).

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
That thing is going to go for way, way too much money. I'm guessing you'll almost be able to get an M3 or M4 of the same year for what it sells for.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
40k

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005


That’s basically the price of any used BMW these days.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
theres an Imola E39 M5 on BAT that is gonna sell for like, $35K plus which is giving me hope if I ever want to sell my somewhat rattier example

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

I think the last one went for like, 50k+. And it was brown. I was prepared to pay 35ish.

The most lol thing is I just bought a "demo" new E450 with 2k miles on it for 59k.

Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jul 14, 2020

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

An E30 M3 with 8,000 miles is already at $120K with 8 days left.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-bmw-m3-99/

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
269 photos

And each one of them is porn

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

Mr. Apollo posted:

An E30 M3 with 8,000 miles is already at $120K with 8 days left.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-bmw-m3-99/

Looks like $35k invested in the DJIA in 1988 would be worth...about $460k.

Hope those 250 miles/year were fun at least.

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rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Residency Evil posted:

Looks like $35k invested in the DJIA in 1988 would be worth...about $460k.

Hope those 250 miles/year were fun at least.

The current seller has put 640 miles on it since 2010, which is even sadder tbh

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