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David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
Hey do we have a thread for Sci-Fi books yet? Because I could use some recommendations.

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Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

David D. Davidson posted:

Hey do we have a thread for Sci-Fi books yet? Because I could use some recommendations.

yeah here

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
AT-AT on Titan :mrgw:

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Sally posted:

AT-AT on Titan :mrgw:

this only works if you pronounce AT-AT the george lucas way, not the correct way :colbert:

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


I'm just gonna pronounce 'Attack on Titan' wrong from now on

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdF52zJcfo

also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHHPrnVojV0




Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

I remain incredibly disappointed that Attack on Titan, did not in fact, feature an attack on the moon Titan.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Hunter Noventa posted:

I remain incredibly disappointed [in] Attack on Titan

Musluk
May 23, 2011



Hunter Noventa posted:

I remain incredibly disappointed that Attack on Titan, did not in fact, feature an attack on the moon Titan.



Vanisheerrrrrr!!!

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008
Musluk is our new IK for the month!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm tempted to have a thread about the idea of sexy aliens and that while I'm inordinately fond of your horribly cliched yet fun horny space babes, I do reckon the universe has more room for say, bi-curious space himbos and whatever the hell, rather than just your usual creepy ugly space monsters. (Mind you, from what I've heard if the tentacled space monsters did start demanding human women for their unspeakable violation they'd probably get a fair amount flat out lining up for it)

Am reminded that 'Earth Girls Are Easy' might as well be called 'Summer of my Martian soldier'

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm tempted to have a thread about the idea of sexy aliens and that while I'm inordinately fond of your horribly cliched yet fun horny space babes, I do reckon the universe has more room for say, bi-curious space himbos and whatever the hell, rather than just your usual creepy ugly space monsters. (Mind you, from what I've heard if the tentacled space monsters did start demanding human women for their unspeakable violation they'd probably get a fair amount flat out lining up for it)

Am reminded that 'Earth Girls Are Easy' might as well be called 'Summer of my Martian soldier'

https://youtu.be/XU_9ucFfhdI

Hell I was thinking about doing a thread dedicated to characters that gently caress myself.

David D. Davidson fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Aug 31, 2020

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Feels like it would just be an open invite for people to be creepy.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

David D. Davidson posted:

https://youtu.be/XU_9ucFfhdI

Hell I was thinking about doing a thread dedicated to characters that gently caress myself.

This sounds like an amazingly terrible idea, and I don't understand why saying over and over over again, "XCharacter fucks," is so funny.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Roth posted:

I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Feels like it would just be an open invite for people to be creepy.

This 100% will happen. I'd give it maybe a day or two before it's closed.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17h5tlYSsS0

nut
Jul 30, 2019

You guys ever heard of this Han Solo? I like to call him Haha solo, like laughing because he’s a joke. Or sometimes I call him ham solo, cuz he’s a big ham, I don’t know what that means but whenever my aunt Judy calls someone a ham she definitely doesn’t mean it in a good way. Maybe hand solo? Like I could beat him with just one hand because haha he’s a ham? Jan solo and he’s Scandinavian or or wait hm maybe gran solo an old grandma ham solo wait I got more

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a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

As much as I love the original Star Wars Trilogy, and the battle with the first Death Star...now adays I just can’t help but notice how when writing the battle they just didn’t consider certain tactics.

IE they showed the Death Stars Turbolasers weren’t really that great at Deterring the Rebels Starfighters and had to get extremely lucky to even hit one(If they did hit it was definitely a goner though).

Also after the initial wave of Tie Fighters is dealt with the only active Ties seem to be Vader and his Escort. As all the other scenes seem to just suggest Luke and everyone is just hanging up out of effective range of the Turbolasers with no fighters threatening them.

So basically, why didn’t they do what Han did a lot earlier? IE after Gold Squadron got taken out from behind, have the next group start its run. Then when Vader and his fighters move in, the second set of Rebel fighters swoops in behind them and takes them out.
It makes a lot more sense than them just hanging around watching their friends die so they can get in line for an attack from behind next.

I do realize though that given the timeframe of the original Star Wars they may not have had the film budget to have more Ties harassing the rebels, thus keeping them from logically moving in to support their allies when Vader attacks.(Since from my understanding Lucas and company had to make do at times with what they had.)

Since if you want to keep Han set up as the surprise hero who comes back to help out. That is what they would have needed still, more fighters pressuring the rebels to keep them from assisting the Trench Runners. Then Han swoops in past unexpectedly to save Luke and Wedge so Luke can blow up the death star like how it already plays out.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

a.lo posted:

As much as I love the original Star Wars Trilogy, and the battle with the first Death Star...now adays I just can’t help but notice how when writing the battle they just didn’t consider certain tactics.

IE they showed the Death Stars Turbolasers weren’t really that great at Deterring the Rebels Starfighters and had to get extremely lucky to even hit one(If they did hit it was definitely a goner though).

Also after the initial wave of Tie Fighters is dealt with the only active Ties seem to be Vader and his Escort. As all the other scenes seem to just suggest Luke and everyone is just hanging up out of effective range of the Turbolasers with no fighters threatening them.

So basically, why didn’t they do what Han did a lot earlier? IE after Gold Squadron got taken out from behind, have the next group start its run. Then when Vader and his fighters move in, the second set of Rebel fighters swoops in behind them and takes them out.
It makes a lot more sense than them just hanging around watching their friends die so they can get in line for an attack from behind next.

I do realize though that given the timeframe of the original Star Wars they may not have had the film budget to have more Ties harassing the rebels, thus keeping them from logically moving in to support their allies when Vader attacks.(Since from my understanding Lucas and company had to make do at times with what they had.)

Since if you want to keep Han set up as the surprise hero who comes back to help out. That is what they would have needed still, more fighters pressuring the rebels to keep them from assisting the Trench Runners. Then Han swoops in past unexpectedly to save Luke and Wedge so Luke can blow up the death star like how it already plays out.

You could come up with lots of in universe rationales for this...
But the real reason is that is the way it happened in Dambusters, the film Lucas took the scene from.

Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

Is there a label/category for that particular genre of 70s/80s pulp fantasy sci-fi mashup seen in stuff like Masters of the Universe, Marvel's Thor/Asgardian stuff (to differing degrees depending on writer though Thor Ragnarok, for example, leans into it pretty hard), the old iOS games Infinity Blade and particularly God of Blades (they had faux novel covers of various novels in 'the God of Blades universe' which was amazing), uh.... I'm struggling to think of other examples off the top of my head. Everything Gloryhammer has done feels like a loving parody/homage to the type of stuff I'm talking about where you have space knights that include a barbarian and a cyborg fighting an evil Space Wizard.

Sword and sorcery meets lasers with a sometimes-but-not-always post-apocalyptic vibe? I guess?

I don't know if I'm chasing a genre as much as an aesthetic which is irritating to find more stuff like it. Dune and Warhammer 40K both have medieval-culture-with-ancient-tech things going on, but neither of them remotely fit what I'm talking about for example.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
science fantasy?

i slot the original star wars into there since A New Hope at least was a mish mash of a bunch of sword and sorcery/samurai/western/war genres.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
I don't know if the genre has a name, but the touchstone they're all coming back to is Barsoom. Often as not more Frazetta's Barsoom illustrations than Burroughs's actual writing.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

Mode 7 posted:

Is there a label/category for that particular genre of 70s/80s pulp fantasy sci-fi mashup seen in stuff like Masters of the Universe, Marvel's Thor/Asgardian stuff (to differing degrees depending on writer though Thor Ragnarok, for example, leans into it pretty hard), the old iOS games Infinity Blade and particularly God of Blades (they had faux novel covers of various novels in 'the God of Blades universe' which was amazing), uh.... I'm struggling to think of other examples off the top of my head. Everything Gloryhammer has done feels like a loving parody/homage to the type of stuff I'm talking about where you have space knights that include a barbarian and a cyborg fighting an evil Space Wizard.

Sword and sorcery meets lasers with a sometimes-but-not-always post-apocalyptic vibe? I guess?

I don't know if I'm chasing a genre as much as an aesthetic which is irritating to find more stuff like it. Dune and Warhammer 40K both have medieval-culture-with-ancient-tech things going on, but neither of them remotely fit what I'm talking about for example.

What you’re describing is often referred to as Sword and Planet or Planetary Romance. but really most pre 1980s sci-fi falls into this category as the distinction between sci-fi and fantasy is really a recent trend.

Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

Bucnasti posted:

What you’re describing is often referred to as Sword and Planet or Planetary Romance. but really most pre 1980s sci-fi falls into this category as the distinction between sci-fi and fantasy is really a recent trend.

Yup, digging into both of those is getting me the sorts of results I was looking for, thanks a ton!

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I always think of superhero comics for that, because when those go into space, the setting doesn't have to maintain the premise of being contiguous, planets can be as wildly varied as possible because it's easily plausible that they have nothing to do with each other across the light years. That feels to me like the spirit of a pulp story where there's a new entry at regular intervals but at any time it could get passed off to another author who has no idea what's going on.

I was actually trying to revisit Wander Over Yonder just the other day, which feels like it's in the same region but much less aggressive and much more friendly. Only it's not on a convenient streaming service.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Superhero comics are more crossovers of genre fiction, both because some of them predate strict genres but also because they started out mashing a ton of genres together as the Comics Code caused such a brutal contraction of a traditionally diverse medium.

Plantery Romance is a different thing; usually used to describe settings like Barsoom, Flash Gordon and even Dune that take place mostly on a single planet and tend to show it in more detail than say, Star Wars or Star Trek does.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Sally posted:

science fantasy?

i slot the original star wars into there since A New Hope at least was a mish mash of a bunch of sword and sorcery/samurai/western/war genres.

I will die on the hill that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci-fi, but normies insist that space ships = sci fi and horses = fantasy and that's that

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Star Wars is a bit of a mix since the genre trappings aren't really convention 'future' sci-fi, being outright treated like WW2, and the 'fantasy' elements are mostly restricted to the Jedi and Sith characters.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Star Wars has some fantastical elements, but I feel like they're pretty restrained compared to some other works. Much like how Lord of the Rings had relatively little magic from its wizards despite inventing the fantasy genre. There's definitely less magic in Star Wars than in like the Avengers.

I always felt like the spaceships and settings of Star Wars felt really grounded and realistic from being beaten up and dirty instead of shiny and amazing. It's definitely not speculative, and it's not intended to put you in awe of the future, but I don't think of sci fi as exclusively either of those anyways.

Although generally fretting about taxonomic borders, limitations, and restrictions of genres is for losers anyways,

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Roth posted:

I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Feels like it would just be an open invite for people to be creepy.

the power of prophecy

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Might be time to change the thread title? Not that it's less true, but it's a bit heavy for light-hearted chat.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

josh04 posted:

Might be time to change the thread title? Not that it's less true, but it's a bit heavy for light-hearted chat.

A new thread title and perhaps consolidating some of the information in the stickied threads is something I've been meaning to propose. I'd like it of our stickies were more a showcase for user content and regularly changed.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Star Chat Thread: Jeffrey Is The Senate

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Prequeldome, stickied for a thousand years. An index of prequeldome posts. A prequeldome hall of fame. Prequeldome heroes, on both sides.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


I am curious what percent of Sci-fi Wi-fi the prequeldome makes up

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
any percent is too much...

OTdome rise up...

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
(sequeldome dont bother showing up)

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Star Chat Thread: Jeffrey Is The Senate

CainFortea posted:

I am curious what percent of Sci-fi Wi-fi the prequeldome makes up

By page count it's just over 45% of the first page currently.

Fantastic Foreskin fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Oct 10, 2020

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Some Goon posted:

By page count it's just over 45% of the first page currently.

So maybe 1/3rd total sounds about right.

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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

CainFortea posted:

So maybe 1/3rd total sounds about right.

1/3 of the forum, 1/3 of the Star Wars Saga. What’s so special about the prequels again?

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