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L0cke17
Nov 29, 2013

Context posted:

Does anyone know of a fun/decent tempo or casino mage deck? I don’t know where to find wild decks that aren’t outdated.

This is fun, the nerf to quest made it a touch slower, but it's still decent.

### Casino Mage
# Class: Mage
# Format: Wild
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (0) Elemental Evocation
# 1x (1) Evocation
# 2x (1) Magic Trick
# 1x (1) Open the Waygate
# 2x (1) Ray of Frost
# 2x (1) Violet Spellwing
# 2x (2) Book of Specters
# 2x (2) Licensed Adventurer
# 2x (2) Mana Cyclone
# 2x (2) Primordial Glyph
# 2x (2) Questing Explorer
# 2x (2) Sorcerer's Apprentice
# 1x (3) Chenvaala
# 2x (3) Flamewaker
# 1x (3) Stargazer Luna
# 2x (8) Mana Giant
# 2x (12) Arcane Giant
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net

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kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012
You literally posted the number one deck in the Wild Format. Not saying it isn't fun (I have never played it).

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Hosted a local Fireside gathering to open my packs, was easier than I thought it'd be. Got Golden Professor Slate(from my golden packs), Golden Jandice Barov(from regular packs), Star Student Selina, Speaker Gidra, Turalyon, Willow, Sphere of Sapiance, and Kel'thuzad. 8 legendaries in 90 packs is pretty good. I'll at least try out Jandice since I got her as golden.

By the way I didn't realize until now that you can open your packs with just spacebar. I knew you could actually open the packs with it but I thought you still needed the mouse to flip the cards.

Mr Beens
Dec 2, 2006

RatHat posted:

Hosted a local Fireside gathering to open my packs, was easier than I thought it'd be. Got Golden Professor Slate(from my golden packs), Golden Jandice Barov(from regular packs), Star Student Selina, Speaker Gidra, Turalyon, Willow, Sphere of Sapiance, and Kel'thuzad. 8 legendaries in 90 packs is pretty good. I'll at least try out Jandice since I got her as golden.

By the way I didn't realize until now that you can open your packs with just spacebar. I knew you could actually open the packs with it but I thought you still needed the mouse to flip the cards.

You get better legendary odds if you use the mouse and wiggle the pack first, then open the cards in a specific order

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

Mr Beens posted:

You get better legendary odds if you use the mouse and wiggle the pack first, then open the cards in a specific order

Don't forget to fire up your twitch stream for that bonus Streamer Luck!

Yoked
Apr 3, 2007


I opened only 4 legendaries on my iPad so this clearly checks out.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Mr Beens posted:

You get better legendary odds if you use the mouse and wiggle the pack first, then open the cards in a specific order

I flip them in ascending rarity and it actually annoyed me when they took that ability away from the mobile client.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I got 4 legendaries in 86 packs, Soulcioligist Malicia, Ace Hunter Kreen, Forest Warden Omu and Vectus. Definitely not the most I've gotten which was 6 or 7 I think and pretty sure with previous bundles I've gotten less legendaries overall but they were all ones I wanted whereas none of these were on the list. Ah well, you win some, you lose some. Still got the golden legendary when the set actually comes out, enough gold for 20 more packs and probably 20k dust when I dust the extras from Scholomance so should be able to make something fun.

NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

It is moderately annoying that Transfer Student will give you a 'dual class' card on the new board but the dual class cards aren't activated until Wednesday so you get... things. Reno the Relicologist and Twin Slice, for example.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Are you guys buying these preorders? Jesus

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Terror Sweat posted:

Are you guys buying these preorders? Jesus

Yeah we are. What of it?

NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

Terror Sweat posted:

Are you guys buying these preorders? Jesus
I have 130 packs worth of gold saved up but the set looks solid enough that I don't think I'll feel bad about grabbing one of the pre-orders. But I also (obviously) play way too much Hearthstone. I also don't really buy other games until they're several years old and on sale so spending $80 every four months doesn't usually make me feel ripped off -- unless it's Boomsday.

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

kaesarsosei posted:

You literally posted the number one deck in the Wild Format. Not saying it isn't fun (I have never played it).


Sure is boring to play against though, and it's loving everywhere.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

80 bucks just feels like way too much to spend on this many digital booster packs. Maybe im just used to Gwent and external

Yoked
Apr 3, 2007


NorgLyle posted:

I have 130 packs worth of gold saved up but the set looks solid enough that I don't think I'll feel bad about grabbing one of the pre-orders. But I also (obviously) play way too much Hearthstone. I also don't really buy other games until they're several years old and on sale so spending $80 every four months doesn't usually make me feel ripped off -- unless it's Boomsday.

This is pretty much my viewpoint too although I missed Boomsday so I guess I lucked out?

A lot of the new cards look really fun to play with. I am saving all my DH extras in case they turn out to be OP.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Terror Sweat posted:

80 bucks just feels like way too much to spend on this many digital booster packs. Maybe im just used to Gwent and external

Everyone has different budgets and different ways of spending their money. It may not be for you, but I expect to get way more per hour in play for the $50 invested and that's my value on money I spend on games.

orangelex44
Oct 11, 2012

Definition of orange:

Any of a group of colors that are between red and yellow in hue. Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Old Occitan, from Arabic, from Persian, from Sanskrit.

Definition of lex:

Law. Latin.
As I said, I've spent money on the game exactly twice: once for the starter bundle, and once for this one. Seeing as I probably average 15-30 minutes a day on this game, for a period of ~2 years, I'm still pretty far ahead on my investment. I just happened to like what this set had, plus I figured it was about time to give a little bit back for my entertainment.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

NorgLyle posted:

It is moderately annoying that Transfer Student will give you a 'dual class' card on the new board but the dual class cards aren't activated until Wednesday so you get... things. Reno the Relicologist and Twin Slice, for example.

It gives you a random class card right now, which isn’t too bad.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Terror Sweat posted:

Are you guys buying these preorders? Jesus

I buy them both every time. It's the absolute cheapest the packs will ever be. I know i'm going to end up with a full set or close by the time i'm done buying packs so I may as well spend less up front.

NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

Desert Bus posted:

I buy them both every time. It's the absolute cheapest the packs will ever be. I know i'm going to end up with a full set or close by the time i'm done buying packs so I may as well spend less up front.
My preorder (plus gold) ended up getting me a complete set of Ashes of Outland without crafting which was a nice surprise. It's one reason why I'm sitting on 47k dust right now.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Terror Sweat posted:

80 bucks just feels like way too much to spend on this many digital booster packs. Maybe im just used to Gwent and external

I'm used to physical magic the gathering so...its mostly comparable.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


PneumonicBook posted:

I'm used to physical magic the gathering so...its mostly comparable.

Compared to Magic, Hearthstone is downright cheap. Between spending the dollar equivalent of roughly one and a half booster boxes, the saved gold from the past 3-4 months, and the dust from a mass disenchant, I can get a complete playset of each expansion.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Also, pretty sure people who play physical-card MTG would LOVE a system where packs were guaranteed to not give them duplicate legendaries if they were collecting to play and not to immediately flip 'jackpot' mythics.

I never even played WoW, but Hearthstone's a game I can load up on my phone on my lunch break (after checking out said phone) and curse sotto voce at people when they pull off a bullshit win out of nowhere.

kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012
I've probably spent over £100 total on HS since Beta, but less than £20 in the last 2 years and I will never buy the expansion pre-orders unless they drastically change in value - to me, as someone who has spent quite a bit, the pre-orders are still a rip-off. I have no interest in BGs or skins for heroes either.

Once you get a complete Classic collection it helps - you end up gaining more dust. Also the new dupe protection rules help with collecting too.

Olpainless
Jun 30, 2003
... Insert something brilliantly witty here.
I've started buying the mid-tier pre-orders now that dupe protection is in place, because it pretty much just guarantees the core set and a lot of dust to get your preferred epics and legendaries. It always felt REALLY bad opening a triple of an epic.

kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012
My biggest problems were Epics, and specifically worrying about crafting a second one just to then open a dupe later. I often played decks with 1x specific Epics for that reason.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible
You could get by with just the 70-75 packs you would get from the gold doing if you do all of your dailies as long as you dust gold cards and stuff that rotate out. Legendaries for the most part haven't been that important. Galakrond/Kronx were given to everyone for free, and then DQA and Zeph were the main other core legendaries you needed for the last while.

This set is the first one in a while where you are going to want to get most of the legendaries.

Womyn Capote
Jul 5, 2004


Hi, it's me, a person that spends hundreds of dollars on hearthstone every year and only plays casual

Goons Are Gifts
Jan 1, 1970

Womyn Capote posted:

Hi, it's me, a person that spends hundreds of dollars on hearthstone every year and only plays casual

Let me tell you, doing this for reaching dad legend every month at best is not really the psychological catharsis either.

What I'm saying is, I have a problem

Edit: getting merch for participating small local events does not solve anything either btw

Goons Are Gifts fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 3, 2020

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Womyn Capote posted:

Hi, it's me, a person that spends hundreds of dollars on hearthstone every year and only plays casual

It's fine :) I've read about MtG players who routinely spend $400 a month on MtG. You can't even spend that much on Hearthstone!

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
Heh and then those losers have to seek out real friends to play their card game with in person

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
If you're a stone cold competitor you prob don't need to spend all that much.

Take a teir 1 deck and play the crap out of it.

When expansion hits, abuse suboptimal experiments as the meta settles.

When meta settles, craft just enough cards to continue or pivot to new best deck.

Maybe you can't be F2P and prob smart to avoid Highlander decks but there's almost always a cheap powerful option.

I didn't used to spend much on HS because I would play zoo or face aggro relentlessly. But now I like to dick around more and boy they make you pay for the privilege.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Xguard86 posted:

If you're a stone cold competitor you prob don't need to spend all that much.

Take a teir 1 deck and play the crap out of it.

When expansion hits, abuse suboptimal experiments as the meta settles.

When meta settles, craft just enough cards to continue or pivot to new best deck.

Maybe you can't be F2P and prob smart to avoid Highlander decks but there's almost always a cheap powerful option.

I didn't used to spend much on HS because I would play zoo or face aggro relentlessly. But now I like to dick around more and boy they make you pay for the privilege.

That's EXACTLY it. You actually don't need all those cards if you get a premium HSreplay account, use it, and read Viscous Syndicate for what's actually happening in the game. Get that deck, play it to death and there you are. I remember (again MtG) reading about some pros and they were saying they do not have any affinity to any color or card or card type. It's all numbers for them. Most of us are playing to also be entertained so it's hard to break down card games to that level.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




And all the while, you’re building up an eternal collection for Wild if that ever strikes your fancy.

orangelex44
Oct 11, 2012

Definition of orange:

Any of a group of colors that are between red and yellow in hue. Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Old Occitan, from Arabic, from Persian, from Sanskrit.

Definition of lex:

Law. Latin.
I found that if you limit yourself to 3 classes (and dust everything rare or better for everyone else) and do every daily quest, after a year or so you'll have enough to play just about whatever deck you want in one of those classes with a few epics missing in the other two. You'll also not have the "bad" legendaries. By the second year, when you have some wild stuff to dust, you'll have nearly everything for those three classes - but your neutral set will still be missing some stuff. Maybe now in year three, with even more to dust and the new advantages of duplicate protection, better monthly season rewards, and an entire "free" class in Demon Hunter I'll be able to expand to four or five.

In short: yes, if your goal is simply to be competitive then it's very easy not to spend a dime. If your goal is to screw around with neat toys, it's still possible but you need to be very limited in the classes you play.

Goons Are Gifts
Jan 1, 1970

Between expansions I usually do not buy anything with gold, the only exception this time was the 500g card back available, and I'm looking at around 8000 gold just from regularly playing as usual. 80 packs plus the regular free packs you get from brawls, occasional quests and the free packs you always get from other stuff once a new expansion launches should be enough to get you started on a new set of cards, too. That's even without touching any dust or limiting yourself to certain classes.

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

I usually save up 4-5000 gold, then just run Arenas for the first month or so of an expansion or until I run out of gold. By then I have enough cards/dust for a few meta decks to play on ladder while I save up for the next expansion. Honestly though I mostly just gently caress around in Wild with gimmick decks these days. Blizzard's been scummy enough lately I don't really want to give them money.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Isn't it more cost effective to buy from one set that you have the most cards of, then get a bunch of dust so you can craft whatever you want

Joink
Jan 8, 2004

What if I told you cod is no longer a fish :coolfish:

Terror Sweat posted:

Isn't it more cost effective to buy from one set that you have the most cards of, then get a bunch of dust so you can craft whatever you want

It is most cost effective to find happiness with having only a few cards from a new set and instead spending :10bux: on a lime martini to soften the blow from losing to meta decks repeatedly.

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gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
Few days late, but here's another reason Trump shouldn't be considered too boring to do a reveal stream:

https://twitter.com/TrumpSC/status/1182887804931629057?s=19

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