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Snow Cone Capone posted:I wouldn't say it scratches the Orville itch at all - the first episode wasn't bad but they're leaning way harder into the zany slapstick angle (something that Seth emphatically tried to move away from in Orville S2) Well Seth had to make S1 that way because it's what the Studio wanted and expected - maybe something similar is happening here and perhaps the creators want to try to do some serious stuff later when the studio is happy with what's going out.
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Thom12255 posted:Well Seth had to make S1 that way because it's what the Studio wanted and expected - maybe something similar is happening here and perhaps the creators want to try to do some serious stuff later when the studio is happy with what's going out. Nah, the pedigree behind the show makes it pretty clear it's gonna be sticking with the first episode theme of zany and high-speed jokes. Which is fine! But remember there's Strange New Worlds coming out, plus Disco S3 is supposed to be more upbeat and optimistic, so I don't think they're going to pivot this into the next She-Ra or Avatar, because they don't need to fill that niche. Again though, that's ok! Straight-up TNG: The Comedy Cartoon could be great too.
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Don't forget the Nickelodeon show, Prodigy. I don't think they've revealed much about that besides the name but it would be pretty cool if they ended up hitting the Avatar balance with it.
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Handsome Wife posted:Don't forget the Nickelodeon show, Prodigy. I don't think they've revealed much about that besides the name but it would be pretty cool if they ended up hitting the Avatar balance with it. i had A Take on Prodigy in the ST thread: Snow Cone Capone posted:As it is explicitly a kids' show, my faint glimmer of hope is that it pushes more of a "how do we mature and rise to the occasion like Starfleet people would" angle. Like, "we don't have Starfleet training, so we have to learn and grow (like kids), we can't Action Hero our way out of this" or whatever,
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I wouldn't say it scratches the Orville itch at all - the first episode wasn't bad but they're leaning way harder into the zany slapstick angle (something that Seth emphatically tried to move away from in Orville S2) Yeah I was lumping them together in the "Gang of dysfunctional morons thrown together on a spaceship have to stumble their way through weird scifi problems each week" bag
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My hopes for Prodigy delivering the full time adventures of Jake & Nog spinoff I've been waiting for for thirty years are... not high
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With a name like that, is Prodigy about Wesley Crusher?
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mllaneza posted:Alara was awesome, a real delight, and we'll miss her. And at least the character got to leave the crew on a good episode. Honestly, "Home" is great storyteling.
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Halloween Jack posted:I really wasn't expecting Funny Games starring the EMH and Dr. Phlox on the Star Trek homage show.
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I love how the crew reacts with glee when they find out they’re going to have first contact with that planet in ‘All the World Is Birthday Cake’. A nice little touch.
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TBH the thing I miss most about The Orville is how it's one of the few optimistic shows on TV these days. 
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Xerxes17 posted:TBH the thing I miss most about The Orville is how it's one of the few optimistic shows on TV these days. I think this is the main reason that Orville feels like classic trek, tng at least.
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Did anyone see the new Star Trek Lower Decks show? How does it compare to the Orville?
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I liked it. It's straight comedy, it's not lighthearted serious like The Orville. Since there are other serious Trek shows I don't think it'll transition to being more serious. The first episode had some overstuffed pilot issues but I think it's worth giving a chance to. It feels more like classic Trek than Disco or Picard do.
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I enjoyed Lower Decks and I really think there are two main reasons it feels so much like 90s trek than Discovery and Picard: that it's episodic, and the aesthetic. It very much looks like an animated version of 90s Trek, from LCARS and carpeted hallways to the colorful uniforms.
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Fame Douglas posted:Did anyone see the new Star Trek Lower Decks show? How does it compare to the Orville? It was trying way to hard.
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Halloween Jack posted:I really wasn't expecting Funny Games starring the EMH, Dr. Phlox, and a Vorta on the Star Trek homage show. Alara's mom played a Vorta on DS9  The absolute hard stop, record-scratch, what the gently caress moment in the kitchen was so beautifully played. Picardo is magnificent, taking his reaction from "oh, ha ha ha", to "wait, how can he be serious ?" to "oh gently caress, this is life and death". . One of his best scenes, with due credit to the director since the whole episode pivots on that scene.
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Fame Douglas posted:Did anyone see the new Star Trek Lower Decks show? How does it compare to the Orville? Lower Decks feels like it was made partially with contempt for the audience that likes old Trek. It's like Big Bang Theory is to nerd-dom. It did have some heart though, and didn't feel like it trying to do a hard edgy reboot like Disco was. The Orville doesn't really joke around too much about serious issues where Lower Decks already feels like any greater issue that they might stumble upon, like in the first episode the idea that the Federation is too mired in bureaucracy to effectively help alien races in need, is going to take a back seat and be nothing more than a footnote.
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mllaneza posted:Alara's mom played a Vorta on DS9 oh my god
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PaybackJack posted:Lower Decks feels like it was made partially with contempt for the audience that likes old Trek. It's like Big Bang Theory is to nerd-dom. I got a very different impression, but it's also pretty difficult to accurately judge a series by it's pilot
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Snow Cone Capone posted:oh my god MacFarlane is leaning hard in to hiring every Trek alumni he can get under contract, and I support him in this endeavor.
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The first episode of Lower Decks was good. I go a bit easy on shows in genres/series that I like, but I still laughed a bunch. It's not like The Orville at all though. Seth snuck The Orville in as a comedy and and then made it more serious. Lower Decks seems like it is going to stay a comedy for people who like references to old Trek.
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mllaneza posted:The absolute hard stop, record-scratch, what the gently caress moment in the kitchen was so beautifully played. Picardo is magnificent, taking his reaction from "oh, ha ha ha", to "wait, how can he be serious ?" to "oh gently caress, this is life and death". . One of his best scenes, with due credit to the director since the whole episode pivots on that scene. Yeah this was legit terrifying on first watch.
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PaybackJack posted:Lower Decks feels like it was made partially with contempt for the audience that likes old Trek. It's like Big Bang Theory is to nerd-dom. It did have some heart though, and didn't feel like it trying to do a hard edgy reboot like Disco was. Someone made the point that Below Decks is a Trek parody but The Orville is a trek homage, which feels accurate.
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The Orville is closer to pastiche, IMO. But at that point we're really just splitting hairs.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Someone made the point that Below Decks is a Trek parody but The Orville is a trek homage, which feels accurate. Below Decks isn't a parody though. It's a comedy set in the star trek world. I feel like that's a really different thing.
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Taear posted:Below Decks isn't a parody though. It's a comedy set in the star trek world. Better Call Saul to Breaking Bad, though BCS did swing back to drama hard it was supposed to be mostly comedy originally.
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You see, The Orville walks like this. And Lower Decks walks like this (slapstick falls down and references star trek).
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I'm tired of all these Star Wars
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how about a star skirmish then?
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Maybe a nebular conflict
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one of my favorite episodes in TNG was Lower Decks. was kinda expecting that, not rick and morty star trek
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I mean, I can understand your want, but did you really expect that after all the trailers, promos, and the fact that it's produced by a writer and producer of Rick and Morty?
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bull3964 posted:I mean, I can understand your want, but did you really expect that after all the trailers, promos, and the fact that it's produced by a writer and producer of Rick and Morty? Well, i oughtta elaborate. Yeah i mean i saw the trailer, and read up that it is produced by a writer of Rick and Morty, and the art certainly goes a little in that direction. It just reminds me of Lower Decks, the TNG episode and how great it was and i'd prefer that instead. So i guess what i'm trying to say is, I appreciate the Orville
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My 40th birthday is tomorrow, and my card from my kids had the receipt from preordering the XL sized Orville from Eaglemoss. I'm gonna swoosh that thing so loving hard.
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Arglebargle III posted:I'm tired of all these Star Wars Thank you
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