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Khablam posted:You're missing the greater point. This is all assuming that RP paid Merc for blueprints for the entire car. They bought the blueprints for the brake ducts in 2019 because they were allowed to. You can't "unlearn" that knowledge for your 2020 copy. This is the basis for Renault's protest, that RP was using the old (now illegal) blueprints on the car. If Merc had sold them the blueprints for the entire car, then they would also be going against the rules, and Merc isn't going to do anything to jeopardize a title for their precious baby boy. The majority of the aero surfaces are visible so I do believe that RP could just outright copy it from photographs. All you need to know is the size of a real world reference (like the tyres), the focal length of the lens, and the distance to the object (or another photo of the same point from a different angle) and from there you can calculate the actual dimensions of anything from a photograph. Not that RP would need to do that because they probably bought every available photo of the 2019 Merc from all of the photographers wandering around the paddock.
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Aug 7, 2020 16:47
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Slotducks posted:Ehhhh but didn't the brake ducts they bought last year also contain valuable data not surrounding the brake ducts itself but the things it mated with? you can read the whole thing here: https://www.fia.com/news/f1-renault-protest-decision don't see anything about that This bit made me LOL though:  "Well the rules are ambiguous so we have to default to French law and thus Renault wins"
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Aug 7, 2020 16:52
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Wonder how large that check was lol
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Aug 7, 2020 16:55
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Lamo the sound Sebs engine makes when it let's go is fantastic https://streamable.com/f79nnr
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Aug 7, 2020 17:26
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Now that racism has been seconded, will F1 be voting on racism with a yea/nay show of hands?
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Aug 7, 2020 17:33
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Renault will still lose and i will still lmao
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Now that racism has been seconded, will F1 be voting on racism with a yea/nay show of hands?
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Aug 7, 2020 19:25
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Racism costs you 2 points but further racism will only result in a reprimand, they feel it unreasonable to ask teams to suddenly stop being racist in the middle of the season.
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Aug 7, 2020 19:31
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Teams are limited to a sliding scale of sensitivity training hours depending on last year's constructors standings
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Aug 7, 2020 19:35
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You can pay the FIA undisclosed amounts of money off the books in order to settle secret tribunal decisions on your racism
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Aug 7, 2020 20:05
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GramCracker posted:Lamo the sound Sebs engine makes when it let's go is fantastic you can see that he went wide on that corner before the engine died, i refuse to believe that car is so bad thats undrivable
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Aug 7, 2020 20:37
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https://twitter.com/f1/status/1291818166449053699 the storyline of this season will be the tracing point saga
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Aug 7, 2020 20:57
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Frank Prisinzano, a very accomplished New York chef, has gone on a rant about using cast iron because idiot hipsters keep asking him about it. "This is really comical to me because we’re way past cast-iron now."
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Aug 7, 2020 21:14
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Zeta Acosta posted:https://twitter.com/f1/status/1291818166449053699 Unclear to me is, are they appealing because the decision was not strong enough or go far enough or is it because they think it was too harsh and should be lessoned or reversed?
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Aug 7, 2020 21:14
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TheBacon posted:Unclear to me is, are they appealing because the decision was not strong enough or go far enough or is it because they think it was too harsh and should be lessoned or reversed? maybe the bit about banning photographic copying, which seems unenforcable
"This will prevent teams from using extensive part of photos to copy whole portions of other cars in the way that Racing Point has done. "We will still accept individual components to be copied in local areas, but we don't want the whole car to be fundamentally a copy of another car."
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Aug 7, 2020 21:22
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I think they think it’s not harsh enough because they got a penalty last year for their engine, and they had to stop using it. So, maybe the appeal is to ask why Racing Point can continue to use the brakes, while they weren’t allowed to keep using their engine.
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Aug 7, 2020 21:42
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God forbid a team become competitive in F1. We can’t have that lmfao
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Aug 7, 2020 21:49
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Pragmatica posted:I think they think it’s not harsh enough because they got a penalty last year for their engine, and they had to stop using it. So, maybe the appeal is to ask why Racing Point can continue to use the brakes, while they weren’t allowed to keep using their engine. Ferrari had months to redesign their engine. Racing Point has two days until the next race. What the gently caress do people expect the FIA to do? Ask Racing Point to go make a design that's more crap? Like how are they supposed to unlearn what they've already learned about the 2019 Merc design? Even if the RP20 is banned from competition for 2021, and RP have to make an all new version I bet you anything the car they come up with is going to look quite a bit like the old one. They now have a design philosophy that works, they can continue to make evolution's on it that is 100% their own work and research but still be fundamentally a 2019 Merc as it's basis. [edit] Rebus, please correct me if my assumptions are wrong. I can only guess at how engineering at this level works. MustardFacial fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Aug 7, 2020 21:55
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MustardFacial posted:Ferrari had months to redesign their engine. Racing Point has two days until the next race. What the gently caress do people expect the FIA to do? Ask Racing Point to go make a design that's more crap? ban racing point and jail toto wolff or let ferrari bring back the special engine
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Aug 7, 2020 21:56
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renault has united the entire paddock to rally behind racing point. lmfao good job frogs
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Aug 7, 2020 21:57
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If I understood correctly, they can continue using the car as is because this was a sporting violation (they copied), not a technical violation (every part is within legal parameters). And they were given some leniency because it was arguably a grey area (which they should have made sure to clarify).
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Aug 7, 2020 21:59
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Oh I know. This is going to blow up spectacularly in Ferrari’s face if this is their angle.
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Aug 7, 2020 22:02
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https://www.humblebundle.com is giving away pc copies of F1 2018. Fernando Alonso is in the game. The game is set in the year 2018. Guillermo del Toro wins Best Picture for The Shape of Water even though Pan's Labyrinth is a much better movie.
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Aug 7, 2020 22:09
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AYYY DEY NEVAH LEMME RUN A DA PESTO INJECTAFOGLIO NO MORE *appeals racing point decision*
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Aug 7, 2020 22:09
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Is this the same Ferrari who cheated for half a season and then made a backroom deal with a former employee to keep the fact they cheated quiet ?
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Jolo posted:https://www.humblebundle.com is giving away pc copies of F1 2018. Fernando Alonso is in the game. The game is set in the year 2018. Guillermo del Toro wins Best Picture for The Shape of Water even though Pan's Labyrinth is a much better movie. F1 2019 is now on GamePass
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MustardFacial posted:Ferrari had months to redesign their engine. Racing Point has two days until the next race. What the gently caress do people expect the FIA to do? Ask Racing Point to go make a design that's more crap? Pretty accurate. 95% is evolution or optimising of existing ideas to achieve a target (e.g. fix a drop out in a certain condition, eliminate a flow separation on a piece of bodywork/wing, etc). Totally new ideas are generally dealt with toward the start of a new set of regs, or if there is something massively wrong with the car when you go to testing.
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Aug 7, 2020 22:31
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FAUXTON posted:AYYY DEY NEVAH LEMME RUN A DA PESTO INJECTAFOGLIO NO MORE *appeals racing point decision* 
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Aug 7, 2020 22:37
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this is not about the rp brakes but about the wolff, stroll relationship. shady things going on between mercedes and aston martin
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Aug 7, 2020 23:09
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Ferrari's protest of this decision is going to end up getting Haas retroactively banned from every season they've competed in because Ferrari are just that catastrophic right now.
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Aug 7, 2020 23:09
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Tsaedje posted:Ferrari's protest of this decision is going to end up getting Haas retroactively banned from every season they've competed in because Ferrari are just that catastrophic right now. Wollf did bring that up in an interview that the first Haas car was a 1:1 Ferrari copy but that nobody complained about it because they weren't very competitive anyways.
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Aug 7, 2020 23:12
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Khablam posted:Frank Prisinzano, a very accomplished New York chef, has gone on a rant about using cast iron because idiot hipsters keep asking him about it. you'll notice he didn't give an endorsement for teflon pans either, but you left that bit out
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:you'll notice he didn't give an endorsement for teflon pans either, but you left that bit out The case for Teflon pans does not hinge on “it’s what the professionals use”. The case for cast iron does.
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the corona quid posted:The case for Teflon pans does not hinge on “it’s what the professionals use”. The case for cast iron does. i've never made that point
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Aug 7, 2020 23:18
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FAUXTON posted:AYYY DEY NEVAH LEMME RUN A DA PESTO INJECTAFOGLIO NO MORE *appeals racing point decision* 
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Aug 7, 2020 23:33
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Pragmatica posted:Oh I know. This is going to blow up spectacularly in Ferrari’s face if this is their angle. Yeah I kinda want the appeal to end up with "after further investigation and deliberation, and considering Shitteria Failrarri's appeal, we are amending our decision regarding the RP20 to 200k fine, and no points loss. We would also like to take this opportunity to remind certain teams that the FIA did a secret deal with them due to how much they were cheating, and let them go scot free, so don't push it"
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just make them keep vettel but make sure binotto is drunk every race
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