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I guess my vow not to play any more this league doesn't prevent me from spending half an hour screwing with pob like a rubik's cube on someone else's build. Take a look at https://pastebin.com/bVJW1dsU. You're getting 30-40% more dps for a tiny dip in life by prioritizing attack over crit, which especially makes sense if you're ditching the power charge clusters. Making crits your primary damage contributor is one of those things that just doesn't pay off until you have a lot of points and decently tuned gear all contributing toward it. It can be very strong past that tipping point, but you're definitely not there yet. I also threw in arrow dancing with a spare point. I'm not entirely sure it's a great pickup for cobra lash because I've never played it, but generally you're way more threatened by volleys of ranged attacks than getting swarmed in melee.
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Aug 10, 2020 19:31
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please knock Mom! posted:Weapons which drop in a t16 map shouldn’t be allowed to drop with 2-5 flat phys rolls I would love it if items would only roll the highest tier modifiers they can roll and not t10 mods.
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Aug 10, 2020 19:32
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search engine posted:Yeah apart from tooling around a bit on my remaining living characters I'm definitely done. If there's anyone out there still playing hc I can dump a decent amount of random gear/currency and about a thousand maps on you. I usually give HC trade a go once a league or so. If you wanna drop some stuff on me I'll see if I can make it to maps again. Any build recommendations?
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Aug 10, 2020 19:44
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Is there a good guide to blight encounters? I have no clue how to do them properly. I've gotten some oils from a couple but I fail most of them.
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Aug 10, 2020 19:45
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Rallos posted:I usually give HC trade a go once a league or so. If you wanna drop some stuff on me I'll see if I can make it to maps again. Any build recommendations? Hmm, I'm not sure any of my leftover junk will resolve to a particular build, but I'll take a look once I'm on. Can drop by in about a half hour if you're online. Whats your in-game name? edit: Hamelekim posted:Is there a good guide to blight encounters? I have no clue how to do them properly. I've gotten some oils from a couple but I fail most of them. It's a harder to do them with some builds than others, but the random ones you encounter in maps should almost always be winnable. Mainly it's about locking down one set of lanes with towers and handling another set of lanes yourself. Plays a lot like tower defense. Look for choke/convergence points where your towers will have a lot of targets in range, and then focus your resources there. Preferences differ but an easy generic combo is level 1 fireball, shock, chilling all grouped together and then as points come in, upgrade them one at a time to meteor, arc, cage in that order. You usually won't get them all done before the encounter is over. Can build a couple of random chilling towers on the lanes you're handling yourself to help keep mobs bunched up. Blighted maps are a different story. Some builds are really pretty screwed on those. search engine fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Aug 10, 2020 |
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Aug 10, 2020 20:00
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Hamelekim posted:Is there a good guide to blight encounters? I have no clue how to do them properly. I've gotten some oils from a couple but I fail most of them. Here's one idiot's opinions: *Sucks to be you if you're melee. Ranged and minion characters can usually dump all over Blight encounters without even moving no problem while melee has to run around like a chicken with its head cut off. *Icons over the top of the portals indicate what those monsters are resistant to, not weak against. Not terribly intuitive. *Generally, it's about creating chokepoints. One tower handling 3 lanes is usually better than 3 towers handling 1 lane. *My usual strategy is to put minions by the portal(s), fireball further back and empowering to cover both of them. If I can build anything more in the empowering's radius it'll most likely be a chilling. In case of resistances, sub minion for chilling, chilling for seismic and fireball for minion. Shock nova really only comes out if bosses show up. *Best position for you is a toss-up. Moving by the different portals means you're quicker to upgrade towers. Closer by the pump means you can serve as the last line of defense. Which one is best usually depends on your build. *When bosses show up, you need to be on them ASAP as they are pretty much all tanks. Your towers alone probably won't be able to stop them. *Don't forget to anoint rings to buff your towers. *If the game puts 3 portals and only 1 tower spot within 5 feet of the pump, that just means you haven't given Chris Wilson enough of your money. Take a hint.
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Aug 10, 2020 20:15
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Hamelekim posted:Is there a good guide to blight encounters? I have no clue how to do them properly. I've gotten some oils from a couple but I fail most of them. so what i've started doing is stack "increased range of scout drones (max level minion towers)" on my ring annoints, and build a ton near the spore
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Aug 10, 2020 20:16
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Hamelekim posted:Is there a good guide to blight encounters? I have no clue how to do them properly. I've gotten some oils from a couple but I fail most of them. If you have a good ranged build, you can't go wrong with setting up a buff tower next to the pump and debuff towers everywhere else. Not the most effective way to do it, but you'll never see blight portals that are immune to debuff towers.
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Aug 10, 2020 20:19
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There is an anoint that makes it so that frost bolt towers affect freeze-immune enemies, I use that one plus the “frost bolt towers fire more projectiles” and spam those. But really it just comes down to DPS in my experience
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Aug 10, 2020 20:22
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Jay Rust posted:There is an anoint that makes it so that frost bolt towers affect freeze-immune enemies, I use that one plus the “frost bolt towers fire more projectiles” and spam those. I could be wrong, but since that anoint says "Your Freezebolt Tower deal full damage to Cold Enemies" I don't think it freezes them.
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Aug 10, 2020 20:25
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Thanks for the tips. I didn't care about the encounter until I found out I could anoint an amulet to get a skill tree node anywhere on the tree which would be super useful. Now I need to do all of them to find the oils I need.
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Aug 10, 2020 20:26
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oils are cheap as hell this league. golden is under 30c
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Aug 10, 2020 20:32
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^^ yeah Harvest has made oils really easy to obtain. I have 4 goldens in my stash SSF. Corpse explosion or any other means of chaining kills are super good for blight. As for tower types, I find it hard to go wrong with level 3 shockwave towers with level 3 empowers, with additional damage towers (meteor/arc) as a luxury afterward. Be wary of fire type lanes, they can spawn lines of enemies that will all shoot fireballs at you. It tends to hurt.
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Aug 10, 2020 20:33
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Speaking of which, the POB community fork now has the option to highlight the strongest notable for a specific stat, which is super useful for anointing.
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Aug 10, 2020 20:36
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Speaking of ring anoints, after doing a ton of blighted maps I finally tried the meteor burning ground anoint and I wish I'd known earlier how good it is. The burning ground dot basically insta-kills any normal mob that runs into it, which shores up the weakness meteors have in crowd control. Since then I've been running t16s as a melee character using 90% meteor towers and just a few arcs and cages to stop stragglers.
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Aug 10, 2020 20:38
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Don't feel too bad since I think that's one of the new ones they added with indigo oil
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Aug 10, 2020 20:40
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Oh I misread I thought you were talking past leagues but yeah I like that one + meteor towers always stun
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Aug 10, 2020 20:42
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search engine posted:I guess my vow not to play any more this league doesn't prevent me from spending half an hour screwing with pob like a rubik's cube on someone else's build. Thanks a bunch! Yeah, that'd definately be the way to go, but I'm out of regret balls due to switching to Mistwalker. Ah well, I might switch that way piece by piece when I get some more (assuming I don't die before that)! Might also just see if I can't make the crit stuff work if I manage the eternal lab + get some power charge stuff.
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Aug 10, 2020 21:11
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search engine posted:Hmm, I'm not sure any of my leftover junk will resolve to a particular build, but I'll take a look once I'm on. Can drop by in about a half hour if you're online. Whats your in-game name? All of my characters are Rallos_<something> Are you in the goon guild?
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Aug 10, 2020 22:14
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Nah I haven't bothered since the chat doesn't cross over. I'm on as ol_dick_sizzler at the moment.
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Aug 10, 2020 22:37
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I thought guild chat does go over HC/SC, and it's the global channel that doesn't?
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Aug 11, 2020 00:42
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Yes, guild chat connects everyone. It's globals that are segregated between HC and SC.
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Aug 11, 2020 00:45
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Next patch will (supposedly) fix the "oh god why is everything covered up by a black box?" issue. Preview notes
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Aug 11, 2020 01:21
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Wait is that new. Wasn't there some 5555 channel specifically to get around it
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Aug 11, 2020 02:37
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search engine posted:Wait is that new. Wasn't there some 5555 channel specifically to get around it The 5555 channel doesn't cross leagues, but it lets goons in Softcore who aren't in the guild talk with other goons. It's ended up doing a lot to drive HC goons out of the conversation but has definitely made it easier for people who are in small guilds with friends to chat with other goons in the same league.
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Aug 11, 2020 02:40
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5555 was created because we cant fit all the goons in one guild
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Aug 11, 2020 02:48
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search engine posted:Wait is that new. Wasn't there some 5555 channel specifically to get around it It's been like that forever. What those two said is why 5555 exists.
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Aug 11, 2020 02:56
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Well guys, I think I have to accept the fact that I don't actually suck at this game  Did I play it super duper safe since after level 85? Yes Was Zana a jerk for never giving me an Untainted Paradise to help me out? Absolutely Was Oshanti an even bigger jerk for not giving me any Physical Exalts so I could actually craft a better axe than my ilvl 54 one? Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep This calls for a scotch and a ~month hiatus from the game.
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Aug 11, 2020 03:03
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whypick1 posted:Well guys, I think I have to accept the fact that I don't actually suck at this game
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Aug 11, 2020 03:09
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whypick1 posted:Well guys, I think I have to accept the fact that I don't actually suck at this game Congrats bro
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Aug 11, 2020 03:10
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Pretty decent league. At first I didn't want to play because of the league mechanic but I didn't have much else to do. Started 2 weeks late in the end. Overall I'm very satisfied about what I achieved. I always try to do something different each league. Since the endgame revamp I haven't made it past yellow maps because I got bored. This time around I wanted to focus on learning conquerors + sirus. I also thought it might be a good idea to get a bit more into crafting and playing an ES character for the first time (1100 hours played). Chaos dot trickster was really fun for mapping, however boss damage was lacking. I stubbornly stuck with spellslinger ED/cont all the way, with self cast blight + wither totem. I hit a bit of a rough patch between 90-92 when I wanted to just blast maps but needed to get some better gear. I pretty much only played during weekends and stuck to this one character. Ended up at a 95.4 this time around which I think is my 5th 95+ character overall. My 2 cents on xp penalty on death. I like playing softcore and I feel it has its place. Even though a lot of my deaths feel out of my control I think playing around that is possible. What I personally do after I hit 90-92 is I blast all maps and dont reroll nasty mods at all, mostly for atlas completion. I dont care too much about deaths at that point. When I get to around 40-50% into a level I start playing more safe and usually finish the level off in delve. I never die in delves for some reason. After I hit 95 I just completely stop caring, play sloppy and it's just whatever. In the end I got to know conqueror mechanics pretty well because of how slow my build was at killing bosses. Killed sirus at a6, failed a8 because I was playing badly. Got to 24 challenges and called it a league. The league mechanic itself was 7/10 for me.
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Aug 11, 2020 09:50
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I've played pretty continuously, but branching out on build experiments this league led me to learn a lot more about the conqueror fights too. Warlord always feels like a pushover regardless of how long he takes, and hunter is pretty safe so long as you bring some decent chaos res or just move around during the snake phases. The redeemer, I'd never realized how much of a pain in the rear end she can be on a short range character. Near death she spends the majority of her time hanging out unreachable in the tornado yelling about how I suck and throwing ice at me. Crusader is in a league of his own by a couple grade levels though. I've played a stupid amount of this game and I still have a hard time dealing with the speed that he can hurl the volleys of aoe explosions out. Normally I'd just back off and play more cautiously but that means frolicking in the 90% of the arena coated in mana drain runes that apparently also explode after you stand on them long enough? Even with builds that I felt were pretty solid overall, I'd clear him once to say I'd done it and then swap over to my lacerate gladiator for any subsequent encounters. I really have no idea how to deal with that guy in a way that doesn't feel like a dps race on par with shaper.
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Aug 11, 2020 13:35
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The gear this league is absurd and it's going to be such whiplash next league lol
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Aug 11, 2020 13:39
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search engine posted:I've played pretty continuously, but branching out on build experiments this league led me to learn a lot more about the conqueror fights too. Warlord always feels like a pushover regardless of how long he takes, and hunter is pretty safe so long as you bring some decent chaos res or just move around during the snake phases. The redeemer, I'd never realized how much of a pain in the rear end she can be on a short range character. Near death she spends the majority of her time hanging out unreachable in the tornado yelling about how I suck and throwing ice at me. He does it on a regular beat, you gotta get in the rythym
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Aug 11, 2020 13:42
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absolutely unethicable filth https://streamable.com/9cqaw1
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Aug 11, 2020 14:31
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All you guys talking like the season is over making me feel awkward since just started again.. I died to some blood rain thing last night, that was BS. I don't even remember such a boss in act 3 before. And there are 10 acts now? I just wanted to ask if Harvest HC is as empty as it seems? I've seen 1 public party in the last 3 days.
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Aug 11, 2020 14:45
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Jinnigan posted:absolutely unethicable filth Thanks for ruining my day jerkass 
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Aug 11, 2020 14:46
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Femur posted:All you guys talking like the season is over making me feel awkward since just started again.. I died to some blood rain thing last night, that was BS. I don't even remember such a boss in act 3 before. And there are 10 acts now? Plenty more people play SC vs. HC and after 2 months into the league the playerbase dwindles significantly. I'm not surprised you can't find any public parties in HC. And if the last time you played Piety was the very last boss in the story (I'm assuming that blood rain thing is Dominus)....woo boy. You're basically playing an entirely different game now.
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Aug 11, 2020 14:48
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You'll see people saying they're wrapping up the league like, a week in. Some people can go in really hard, you'll always find goons who are still playing though If you are in a trade league you get to benefit from aforementioned players being willing to giveaway stuff, especially maps
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Aug 11, 2020 16:46
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Femur posted:All you guys talking like the season is over making me feel awkward since just started again.. I died to some blood rain thing last night, that was BS. I don't even remember such a boss in act 3 before. And there are 10 acts now? Wow, yeah you've been out for a while. Dominus is kind of a pain in the rear end from the piety-as-endboss perspective, but oh boy you've got a long road to travel from there. I never recommend starting in hardcore to people who have never played or haven't played in a long time. There are so many ways to die that you probably won't see coming. If you've got the time and strength of will for it, go for it, but that's a rough grind. Hardcore leagues follow about the same trajectory as softcore for playerbase over time, just much smaller population to begin with. Around the 2 month mark it feels fairly empty off peak hours and anything but high end or high bulk trades are harder to come by. I handed off a bunch of random stuff to Rallos yesterday, so if you are starting out right now he can probably share some of it.
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Aug 11, 2020 17:01
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