[COVIDelta-19] Remember To Mask Up Between Bites

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mod sassinator: Dec 13, 2006; I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

i can't wait to read how the foreign history books vs. american history books talk about covid-19. i bet we'll ban school books from mentioning america in a bad light

edit:

Chapter 28: COVID-19

[editor's note: The following passage is required by law to satisfy the FAKE NEWS Act of 2021.]

COVID-19 was a disease that killed millions of Americans, much like influenza and many viruses before it. It will forever be remembered that America was the _first_ to close its borders to China, the _best_ in testing, and was rated the best equipped country to fight the virus.

mod sassinator has issued a correction as of 05:47 on Aug 11, 2020

# ? Aug 11, 2020 05:43

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# ? May 1, 2024 17:34

Bulgakov: Mar 8, 2009; рукописи не горят

fabergay egg posted:

somebody once told me my lungs are full of roni
i�m feelin little light in the head
she was lookin kinda dumb with her fingers and her thumb
on a temperature gun on my forehead

well
the gasps start coming and they don�t stop coming
fed with a tube and the vent�lator chuggin
didn�t make sense not to live for fun
it�s just the flu and the masks look dumb
so much to catch so much roni
so what�s wrong with taking indoor seats?
if you don�t test then you won�t know
so where are all the deaths bro?

hey now, you�re an all star
get your game on, go play
hey now, you�re a rock star
get the show on, get paid
all that glitters is gold
they�re just coughing because of the mold

it�s the cool zone, and they say it gets colder
you think it�s bad now, wait till bernie bux�r over
but the meatier men beg to differ
judging by the hole in the cdc�s picture
the ICE we hate, it�s getting pretty grim
i�m feeling pretty warm and it�s coming from within
my temp�s on fire, how �bout yours?
thats the way i like it now i�ll never get old

hey now, you�re an all star
get your game on, go play
hey now, you�re a rock star
get the show on, get paid
all that glitters is gold
they�re just coughing because of the mold

somebody once asked
could we open up real fast?
�i need to get myself away from this place�
i said �yep, what a concept
my kids need school myself
and we could all use a little change�

well
the gasps start coming and they don�t stop coming
fed with a tube and the vent�lator chuggin
didn�t make sense not to live for fun
it�s just the flu and the masks look dumb
so much to catch so much roni
so what�s wrong with taking indoor seats?
if you don�t test then you won�t know (no!)
so where are all the deaths bro?

hey now, you�re an all star
get your game on, go play
hey now, you�re a rock star
get the show on, get paid
all that glitters is gold
i�m just coughing because of the mold

hey now
hey now
hey, hey, hey now
hey now, his o2�s low
hey now, his o2�s low
hey now, his o2�s low

the beeping�s gone and i�m feeling cold

karaoke time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbih6ajBJgk

# ? Aug 11, 2020 05:43

galenanorth: May 19, 2016

fabergay egg posted:

somebody once told me my lungs are full of roni
i�m feelin little light in the head
she was lookin kinda dumb with her fingers and her thumb
on a temperature gun on my forehead

well
the gasps start coming and they don�t stop coming
fed with a tube and the vent�lator chuggin
didn�t make sense not to live for fun
it�s just the flu and the masks look dumb
so much to catch so much roni
so what�s wrong with taking indoor seats?
if you don�t test then you won�t know
so where are all the deaths bro?

hey now, you�re an all star
get your game on, go play
hey now, you�re a rock star
get the show on, get paid
all that glitters is gold
they�re just coughing because of the mold

it�s the cool zone, and they say it gets colder
you think it�s bad now, wait till bernie bux�r over
but the meatier men beg to differ
judging by the hole in the cdc�s picture
the ICE we hate, it�s getting pretty grim
i�m feeling pretty warm and it�s coming from within
my temp�s on fire, how �bout yours?
thats the way i like it now i�ll never get old

hey now, you�re an all star
get your game on, go play
hey now, you�re a rock star
get the show on, get paid
all that glitters is gold
they�re just coughing because of the mold

somebody once asked
could we open up real fast?
�i need to get myself away from this place�
i said �yep, what a concept
my kids need school myself
and we could all use a little change�

well
the gasps start coming and they don�t stop coming
fed with a tube and the vent�lator chuggin
didn�t make sense not to live for fun
it�s just the flu and the masks look dumb
so much to catch so much roni
so what�s wrong with taking indoor seats?
if you don�t test then you won�t know (no!)
so where are all the deaths bro?

hey now, you�re an all star
get your game on, go play
hey now, you�re a rock star
get the show on, get paid
all that glitters is gold
i�m just coughing because of the mold

hey now
hey now
hey, hey, hey now
hey now, his o2�s low
hey now, his o2�s low
hey now, his o2�s low

the beeping�s gone and i�m feeling cold

:5: incredible post, deserving preservation for as long as historical digital archives last and also engraving on a plaque for afterward

# ? Aug 11, 2020 05:50

fabergay egg: Mar 1, 2012; it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'

spacemang_spliff posted:

Goddamn what a good post

I just sang it and it was amazing

a good post? there�s a first time for everything...

# ? Aug 11, 2020 05:53

fermun: Nov 4, 2009

Strong Sauce posted:

Some good news. https://twitter.com/londonbreed/status/1292960823015399424?s=21

i love how a mayor that did everything she could to fight against this result is now announcing it as a celebration. she's such a loving opportunistic corporate rear end in a top hat.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 05:57

twoday: May 4, 2005; C-SPAM Times best-selling author

spacemang_spliff posted:

Goddamn what a good post

I just sang it and it was amazing

poetry

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:01

DarkEuphoria: Nov 7, 2012

twoday posted:

Tangentially, I would also like to point out that this entire state of mind and frame of cultural reference is not only a phenomenon in the United States, but is being exported abroad and adopted in other countries by everyone who can read English, because American voices dominate social media, so here in the Netherlands we also have chuds, who spend all day on twitter arguing about how masks interfere with "their freedoms and constitutional rights" even though the rights allotted to people in the constitution of this monarchy are based on a different legal system and are totally different to those in America. And they aren't even always adopted to the local culture, sometimes they are just copied completely. Every talking point about masks and Q-anon is parroted by conservatives outside of America too, and American conservatives help shape the thoughts of people everywhere. Phrases like "Open 'er up" and "All Lives Matter" are translated and repeated in many different countries around the world now. Here's a picture of a provincial Dutch farmer flying a confederate flag in The Hague during a protest action there some months ago:

there�s really a lot to take in about that image. you can look at it and immediately recognize a certain brand of chud, a caricature of American style accidental disinformation and narrative rewriting, a man who doesn�t know he is a parody of a different man who is, in turn, a parody of himself.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:01

twoday: May 4, 2005; C-SPAM Times best-selling author

DarkEuphoria posted:

there�s really a lot to take in about that image. you can look at it and immediately recognize a certain brand of chud, a caricature of American style accidental disinformation and narrative rewriting, a man who doesn�t know he is a parody of a different man who is, in turn, a parody of himself.

I could do a whole thread about the dutch chuds, it's one of the most common things that the dutch goons discuss; they torched 20 different 5g towers, they have all the same insane Facebook groups as in America, they are planning a giant "All Lives Matter" protest on the biggest square of the capital in coming days. They are really mad at the moment because the police allowed massive BLM protests to happen here, but then shot at the chuds with water cannons and chased them with cavalry whenever they tried to protest COVID regulations.

Sometimes I feel bad posting too about much what's happening here because it doesn't fit in with the general conversation and sometimes it seems to be ignored, but on the other hand I want to give people some idea of what's happening elsewhere in the world because America is understandably totally wrapped up in its own poo poo right now and it's easy to forget that the rest of the world exists. And since I am an American myself, I appreciate the fact that it can be difficult to access this information about the world abroad unless someone points it out to you, so I keep doing it anyway for whoever might be interested. And I only follow what's happening here, but I know things are just as wild in Germany and elsewhere. Hellworld really spans the whole world, don't forget.

twoday has issued a correction as of 06:23 on Aug 11, 2020

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:11

snoo: Jul 5, 2007

fwiw I appreciate your dutch posts along with goons in japan and other countries sharing what's going on

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:22

snoo: Jul 5, 2007

it's nice to know so many other places are also hosed

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:27

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

snoo posted:

it's nice to know so many other places are also hosed

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:30

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

solidarity forever, solidarity for ever, the coughin makes us dead

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:30

twoday: May 4, 2005; C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Xaris posted:

solidarity forever, solidarity for ever, the coughin makes us dead

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:33

fabergay egg: Mar 1, 2012; it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'

snoo posted:

it's nice to know so many other places are also hosed

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:34

Greg Legg: Oct 6, 2004

When I got to work I had 6 missed calls because boss lady was trying to get ahold of me since 7 am. When I got to her office she said she had been up all weekend worrying about the Superintendents decision to allow "at risk" (sped, k-2) students on campus. She asked what I thought and I said when I had started taking students back face to face we had 3 to 5 cases a day, less some days and since it's stupidly high now I think it's too risky She agreed and now we are doing distance learning school wide. It's not ideal but I am glad that we agreed and I feel like I dodged a major bullet.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:37

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

hey fabergay do you want this shareable version

would go nicely with a headline

https://patch.com/california/losgatos/south-bay-s-smash-mouth-headlines-potential-superspreader-event

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:49

VomitOnLino: Jun 13, 2005; Sometimes I get lost.

Xaris posted:

solidarity forever, solidarity for ever, the coughin makes us dead

# ? Aug 11, 2020 06:55

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

Counter-argument to that CNN gaiter thing from a biology PhD:

https://www.facebook.com/ejwillingham/posts/10223561063079187?hc_location=ufi

quote:

PSA: You might see headlines about a study
that is purported to have assessed different types of masks and particularly found those neck gaiters to be "worse than nothing." So, that's not what the study found or even truly examined.

This study [linked in the first comment] was published in a journal called "Science Advances." Its real purpose is to illustrate the application of a pretty straightforward way of measuring droplet transmission through masks made of different materials--it's "proof-of-concept" that their setup for doing this works.

It is not, however, proof of anything else. Here's why.

They tested their process on 12 masks. For each mask, one person--the same person throughout--put the mask on and said a sentence. For each mask, this (same) person did this 10 times.

For a subset of three of these masks, the authors added in three more people, so they also have data for transmission averaged across four people (including that one person they started with) for three masks types: surgical, one type of cotton mask, and bandana.

They averaged the 10 test results for that one person and presented the results in a graph. That graph does *not* show that this one person's results for a gaiter were worse than "wearing nothing." The standard deviations overlap, so for this single person wearing this single kind of gaiter and saying the same sentence 10 times, it's about the same as if *this person* were wearing nothing.

One catch among many: They also show how this person and the other three people transmit while wearing nothing. Turns out, the person they chose for testing all 12 masks is a Loud Talker or a Big Spitter or something, because the curve for that person is really, really different (higher) than for the other three people, whose curves cluster together. So, the one person who did all the mask testing for the 12 masks, saying the same sentence 10 times running, per mask, with only a sip of water in between, is also a Big Spittin' Loud Talker. Probably the PI [academic scientist joke]. This guy didn't even *himself* transmit the same on different days.

Another catch: when you look at how the four people transmitted in each of the masks, there's no clear pattern for any of them. Some of them transmit more through one kind of mask than another. Sometimes, one of them transmits more than another through the same mask and other times, it reverses. Regardless, transmission in these comparisons was ****always reduced**** with a mask on.

Yet another: When the values for all of this are log transformed, which removes some of the chaos from the data, the gaiter they used and "nothing" are almost identical. All the cotton stuff is pretty similar in performance. The only mask that really stands out as having a much bigger transmission inhibition effect is the N95. Which we knew. The other masks all do *something*, and none of them is "worse than nothing."

Finally, the authors are extremely opaque about the materials in these masks. They call the gaiter a "fleece," but it's not what regular folks probably consider "fleece." From the picture, which is small, making the fabric difficult to discern, it looks like a single-layer shiny stretch fabric gaiter. The same applies for the other masks: it's not clear what the fabric is. There's one that they call "knitted" that is actually, I think, "knit" rather than something you made with knitting needles and yarn.

At any rate, the masks are all singular examples, each the same mask used for the 10 tests in the one person who was the test subject. There is no information about whether the testing was standardized in some way, such as fit of the mask to the face, etc., or readjustment after each sip of water between the tests. One reason for that is likely that this study was not intended to test *these masks* or *these materials* per se but to demonstrate that this process could work to measure droplet transmission.

A study designed to genuinely compare masks and materials would have included far more participants, a standardized approach to donning the mask, probably longer breaks in between tests and water sips, and more detail (or, really, any detail) about the masks themselves. The authors overreach, I think (and others agree) in drawing *any* conclusions about broad categories of masks based on this work.

All of which is to say, this study likely shouldn't change much about what you're doing unless, of course, you're planning to set up a "low-cost" and "simple optical measurement" process to test masks.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 07:07

Griefor: Jun 11, 2009

Xaris posted:

Mons Hubris posted:

luckily you won�t have to

# ? Aug 11, 2020 07:32

UnfortunateSexFart: May 18, 2008; ð» ððð« ð·ððð·
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Melbourne numbers continue to plummet

Masks were mandatory as of July 22nd, what a coincidence.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 07:41

CODChimera: Jan 29, 2009

twoday posted:

Tangentially, I would also like to point out that this entire state of mind and frame of cultural reference is not only a phenomenon in the United States, but is being exported abroad and adopted in other countries by everyone who can read English, because American voices dominate social media, so here in the Netherlands we also have chuds, who spend all day on twitter arguing about how masks interfere with "their freedoms and constitutional rights" even though the rights allotted to people in the constitution of this monarchy are based on a different legal system and are totally different to those in America. And they aren't even always adopted to the local culture, sometimes they are just copied completely. Every talking point about masks and Q-anon is parroted by conservatives outside of America too, and American conservatives help shape the thoughts of people everywhere. Phrases like "Open 'er up" and "All Lives Matter" are translated and repeated in many different countries around the world now. Here's a picture of a provincial Dutch farmer flying a confederate flag in The Hague during a protest action there some months ago:

I'm noticing this in NZ as well. IMO it's the right wing social media presence that hooks them in

# ? Aug 11, 2020 07:43

Grapplejack: Nov 27, 2007

hey remember how people were worried that hurricanes were going to make covid worse

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1292989865114705921

what if I raised you The Big One

# ? Aug 11, 2020 07:58

snoo: Jul 5, 2007

do it

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:03

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

if i have to leave my carefully stocked prepper house because all the gas lines are ruptured and bricks are falling on my head i'm gonna be pissed and/or dead

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:06

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

lol well if my house is destroyed then i wont need to go into work right

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:06

Baculus: Oct 25, 2007; I DID A BIG CACA IN MY DRUG STORE DIAPER

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1292928006034522112

Somebody once told me, the world is gonna troll me -
I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
She was wearing PPE, talkin' comorbidity -
saying "Mask up you little bitch or end up dead."

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:07

Ruggan: Feb 20, 2007; WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!

sux for you idiot Californians take me back please

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:08

silicone thrills: Jan 9, 2008; I paint things

If you've never read up on the Salton sea, do it. It's hilariously stupid. It's a fun distraction to know that America has always been this stupid.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:09

Ruggan: Feb 20, 2007; WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!

da big 1 2020

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:12

Strong Sauce: Jul 2, 2003; You know I am not really your father.

Samurai Sanders posted:

I assume that's the right-wing nationalist way to wear a mask because that's how Taro Aso is wearing it.

right-wing yet his party is called liberal democrats? yeah sure, next you'll say the nazis weren't socialists

checkmate libtard sociltards! :smug:

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:15

Judakel: Jul 29, 2004; Can't post for 9 years!

fits my needs posted:

https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1293036498040827904?s=20

SF is extremely hosed, but that may not be a horrible thing. This city was far too expensive while turning its nose up at homeless people. Let the tech workers work from somewhere else, remotely. Deeper in California or even from the middle of the country. Who gives a gently caress. Maybe the ones that care about the "city life" will think of the dangers of big city living and appreciate rural life. Whatever.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:17

Strong Sauce: Jul 2, 2003; You know I am not really your father.

also it's not like that aso dude has said incredible nationalistic and/or racist poo poo before...

...

...

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/13033842

Aso apologizes if �single-race nation� remark misunderstood

quote:

Finance Minister Taro Aso on Jan. 14 sort of apologized for saying Japan has been a single-race nation for more than two millennia, a remark that ignored the existence of the Ainu people and other ethnic groups.

okay so maybe that was a long time ago right??

quote:

January 14, 2020 at 15:45 JST

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:17

mazzi Chart Czar: Sep 24, 2005

Ruggan posted:

sux for you idiot Californians take me back please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6SWofbYD90

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:20

CODChimera: Jan 29, 2009

january was a life time ago

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:20

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Strong Sauce posted:

also it's not like that aso dude has said incredible nationalistic and/or racist poo poo before...

...

...

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/13033842

Aso apologizes if �single-race nation� remark misunderstood

okay so maybe that was a long time ago right??

Aso was a cabinet minister when I first moved to Japan in 2004 too. He was saying racist, sexist, nationalist poo poo on the regular then too.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:22

DesertIslandHermit: Oct 7, 2019; It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

Grapplejack posted:

hey remember how people were worried that hurricanes were going to make covid worse

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1292989865114705921

what if I raised you The Big One

If the Big One went off, Trump would just give nothing and let California die

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:33

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

covid-69

# ? Aug 11, 2020 08:44

Fix: Jul 26, 2005; NEWT THE MOON

Baculus posted:

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1292928006034522112

Somebody once told me, the world is gonna troll me -
I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
She was wearing PPE, talkin' comorbidity -
saying "Mask up you little bitch or end up dead."

Hey now, you're a spreader, get your mask off, go play.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 09:09

Judakel: Jul 29, 2004; Can't post for 9 years!

DesertIslandHermit posted:

If the Big One went off, Trump would just give nothing and let California die

Newsom would kiss the ring. Property, rather than just lives, would actually be destroyed.

# ? Aug 11, 2020 09:10

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# ? May 1, 2024 17:34

Fix: Jul 26, 2005; NEWT THE MOON

Honestly tho, the most believable headline-sent-to-2015 was always "Smash Mouth Responsible for Hundreds Dead."

# ? Aug 11, 2020 09:13

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