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That time Lucasfilm almost published a crossover between Star Wars, American Graffiti, and THX-1138 blended into the book of Exodus. https://www.sfwriter.com/alienout.htm That time Harlan Ellison was fired from Disney in just a few hours. http://harlanellison.com/iwrite/mostimp.htm That time Sliders fired its female lead because they wanted “someone hotter” and had her character stuck in an alien rape camp. Nckdictator fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Aug 11, 2020 |
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The Star Wars Christmas Special
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 14:44 |
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I'd include that Harlan Ellison story about sex you linked
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 18:14 |
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Nckdictator posted:That time Sliders fired its female lead because they wanted “someone hotter” and had her character stuck in an alien rape camp. sliders did a lot of exceptionally lovely things, like when they had to get rid of the round professor guy their send-off for his character was to make him stupid as hell and then kill him horribly like ten minutes later at one point in season 1 or 2 they actually made it back to the main universe but the main dudes universe-test was to check the noise the gate on his front lawn made when he opened it and it doesn't creak so they gently caress off back into the multiverse, then I poo poo you not 10 seconds later some guy comes out of his house and is like "hey btw I fixed your gate" I find that campy garbage show charming as hell but man was it not well written, for example the episode where they accidentally teleport to the fire world and then bring intelligent fire into the oil refinery world by accident
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 18:55 |
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As in, plot-wise, or industry-wise? Cause there's already a "stupid storyline" thread.
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Cobalt-60 posted:As in, plot-wise, or industry-wise? Cause there's already a "stupid storyline" thread. Either works, also poo poo,I missed that thread.
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 22:43 |
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when CBS told Gene Roddenbury "thank you very much, we have have one of our own we like better" so they made Lost in Space instead of Star Trek.
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Yuuzhan Vong Not necessarily dumb but completely unreasonable/undo-able at the time in scope, which was the dumb part. Depending on your view of Jodorowsky, the cancelled Dune could have been a psychedelic mess, or one of the best movies made. I like his movies but he's a kind of up his own rear end. He also has never read Dune. So take that as you will. It's very subjective. The movie Armageddon Independence Day Pretty much all of Prometheus. Also even though I thought the movie Covenant overall was fine, David creating the xenomorphs was stupid I refuse to accept it as canon, also the tiny alien that wasn't a chest burster for some reason. Oh and almost all of the aliens in Star Trek that looked almost human just with spirit gum here and there. But that is entirely forgivable seeing as it's a TV show with a budget, especially considering TOS. Linux Pirate fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Aug 12, 2020 |
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While I ultimately ignore the Yuuzhan Vong era of the EU, it always struck me as being profoundly unlike what Star Wars should be.
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# ? Aug 11, 2020 23:50 |
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replacing all the effects shots in Star Trek with new CGI replacing all the effects shots in Red Dwarf with new CGI wtf no-one wanted that
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# ? Aug 12, 2020 00:09 |
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There's this Timothy Zahn book about futuristic space fighter pilots who mind-meld with their craft but instead of being a fully immersive VR suite, the dude is like "ah I taste cinnamon on the left side of my tongue, that means there's a bogey on my six".
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# ? Aug 12, 2020 00:44 |
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Cerv posted:replacing all the effects shots in Star Trek with new CGI The Red Dwarf one was weird because unlike Star Trek they didn't exactly do a ton of effects stuff in episode. Usually it was a cutaway.
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# ? Aug 12, 2020 01:04 |
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Saul Tigh being a cylon. He was THE best character and a beautifully flawed human and they turn his rear end into a loving cylon. Still pissed about it.
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# ? Aug 12, 2020 01:43 |
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In the Category of Completely Unnecessary Sequels, we have: Independence Day: Pacific Rim: And Highlander 2, which I have never watched, but have heard people denigrate on multiple occasions.
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Nckdictator posted:That time Lucasfilm almost published a crossover between Star Wars, American Graffiti, and THX-1138 blended into the book of Exodus. Jax Hobo Anyway it is known that Lucas at one point played with the idea that American Graffiti, Apocalypse Now and Star Wars were a kind of trilogy about America during the Vietnam war. Sounds weird, but check out the hosed up epilogue for the characters at the end of American Graffiti. These movies were all worked on simultaneously until Lucas got too busy with Star Wars and Coppola took over Apocalypse Now.
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Highlander 2 is the kind of sequel that feels like it was made by people who not only did not understand the appeal of the original, they actively hated it. It is Spider-man: Turn Off the Dark with less actor limb destruction.
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Cerv posted:replacing all the effects shots in Star Trek with new CGI on the other hand, please, someone do this for B5
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what we need is a modern remake of zardoz
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The Horus Heresy, a galaxy-spanning civil war involving billions of combatants, fought on thousands of planets, with troops moved via a method of FTL that is well known for being unreliable, difficult, and prone to time-distortions, lasted for.... Nine years.
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Cobalt-60 posted:And Highlander 2, which I have never watched, but have heard people denigrate on multiple occasions. Highlander 2 is an insane movie, which makes similar baffling choices as the Super Mario Bros. movie, that makes you go "huh? what? but why?" until you go "yeah sure whatever" and I for one appreciate that someone gave these deluded brains millions of dollars to make something truly awful.
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Why did they cast a man with a strong Scottish accent to play someone called "the spaniard" ??????
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dialhforhero posted:Saul Tigh being a cylon. It was a dumb as poo poo plot development but Michael Hogan sold the hell out of it and they made good use of it. (And Saul Tigh was the best drat character on a show full of great characters, before and after the reveal). Though their biggest Cylon fuckup was teasing a 'dead' 13th Cylon musician and telegraphing hard that he was Starbuck's dad then not making him Starbuck's dad and being all "why would anyone think he was Starbuck's dad".
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docbeard posted:It was a dumb as poo poo plot development but Michael Hogan sold the hell out of it and they made good use of it. (And Saul Tigh was the best drat character on a show full of great characters, before and after the reveal). Hearing the writers that Tricia Helfer got on her podcast stumble through excuses for Season 4 has been pretty entertaining. At least they're up front that they made up all the stuff about the other Cylon models like 2/3 of the way through Season 3.
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blatman posted:what we need is a modern remake of zardoz No, but I'm not opposed to it in any way. If that makes sense. But if they did they'd have to remake Barbarella.
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Explaining how Palpatine was resurrected in Fortnite.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Why did they cast a man with a strong Scottish accent to play someone called "the spaniard" ?????? he learned English in Scotland, of course
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Also he isn't spanish, he's egyptian. Now its choose your own adventure time 1) Theatrical Cut: And he isn't egyptian, hes a space alien from another world 2) Home Cut: And he isn't egyptian, hes from an even older civilization
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It's me, I'm the dumbest poo poo from sci-fi/fantasyGravitas Shortfall posted:The Horus Heresy, a galaxy-spanning civil war involving billions of combatants, fought on thousands of planets, with troops moved via a method of FTL that is well known for being unreliable, difficult, and prone to time-distortions, lasted for.... or that lol
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# ? Aug 14, 2020 05:14 |
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I just want to remind everyone that on stargate sg-1 like ten minutes after they get unsupervised access to a transporter they start beaming nukes onto enemy ships best poo poo from sci-fi/fantasy right there
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# ? Aug 14, 2020 07:09 |
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Saturn 3 gets my vote. The redub over Harvey is just icing on the cake.
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blatman posted:I just want to remind everyone that on stargate sg-1 like ten minutes after they get unsupervised access to a transporter they start beaming nukes onto enemy ships They do that like twice then it's exploding bridge consoles all the way down.
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Defiance Industries posted:Hearing the writers that Tricia Helfer got on her podcast stumble through excuses for Season 4 has been pretty entertaining. At least they're up front that they made up all the stuff about the other Cylon models like 2/3 of the way through Season 3. I really need to listen to her podcast. Ron Moore, at least, has always been open and upfront that while the Cylons may have had a plan the writers never did.
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blatman posted:I just want to remind everyone that on stargate sg-1 like ten minutes after they get unsupervised access to a transporter they start beaming nukes onto enemy ships There was a book David Gerrold wrote about TOS years and years ago that I had as a kid (it was my dad's) that I really wish I still had hold of, and one of his arguments is that the transporter was a mistake, or at least a pain to write around, because you always needed to find ways to disable or negate it in order to have any tension whatsoever in a story where Kirk and company got captured. (Granted, not being able to transport through shields was a pretty good counter.)
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# ? Aug 14, 2020 15:14 |
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Hard labeling anything as dumb in WH40k when the entire setting is unironically ridiculous (Heavy metal cathedrals IN SPAAAAACE). What lore there is just sets up the game (The entire galaxy is threatened by the Eye of Terror, spewing out Chaos across am entire sector! This conflict will be resolved by...ground warfare. Man the trenches!) The only truly dumb thing is the fans who take the franchise Very Seriously. Especially the ones who support the Imperium a bit tooo much.
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Generally the ground warfare is more like, attacking/defending key things that are too important to nuke from orbit since these massive galactic empires actually need infrastructure and factories and farms.
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Mooey Cow posted:They do that like twice then it's exploding bridge consoles all the way down. actually yeah I just remembered the last 2 seasons where they try it a couple of times against the ori and it does exactly nothing what's really important though is that teal'c beans a guy in the toque with a can of beans from like 2 blocks away in that one episode where he guilt-trips his boss into letting him live off-base
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The one where he dresses like hes starring in a 70s porno and fucks his hot neighbor?
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yes that's the one I enjoy only the finest of science fiction
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blatman posted:what's really important though is that teal'c beans a guy in the toque with a can of beans from like 2 blocks away in that one episode where he guilt-trips his boss into letting him live off-base I think it was an avocado. Yes, this is important.
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docbeard posted:I really need to listen to her podcast. Any episode where they have a main cast actor is a must, just to hear about the stuff they did while filming. I think it's James Callis who said Edward James Olmos is the godfather to every kid whose parents were working on the show at the time.
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