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Ford already had made the perfect t bird just needed to put a reliable engine in it that got better then 2 miles per gallon. 
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Are you implying the 460 was a thirsty gal?
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Colostomy Bag posted:Are you implying the 460 was a thirsty gal? Just saying it would cost me $20 in gas to go buy a 59 cent taco.
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Aug 23, 2020 19:14
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Elephanthead posted:Just saying it would cost me $20 in gas to go buy a 59 cent taco. How else did you enjoy driving for Uber Eats?
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Aug 23, 2020 19:58
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Actually they look like the factory lights but it's got an entirely different front bumper/grille that makes it look completely stupid. Obviously everything behind that is terrible as well. Same. I thought they looked kinda neat, but it got a unique variant of a Jag engine stuck to a Ranger transmission, which might be one of Ford's weirdest ideas to make production.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Are you implying the 460 was a thirsty gal? That T-bird never had the 460, not that it got great mileage anyway. We almost ended up with an even smaller T-bird instead of the 77-79, it wound up being developed into the Fairmont Futura.
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Godholio posted:Same. I thought they looked kinda neat, but it got a unique variant of a Jag engine stuck to a Ranger transmission, which might be one of Ford's weirdest ideas to make production. I actually just saw one (stock) the other day and had the thought again that it almost looks pretty good. I actually like the rear end and the profile's not too bad, but the front is just kinda goofy. I think a Coyote + new trans swap would do wonders for the car.
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Aug 24, 2020 21:37
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They seem to be listing for 8-11,000 here. Hm.
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Godholio posted:They seem to be listing for 8-11,000 here. Hm. Paint/wrap the stupid chrome windshield surround, find a top without the opera window, toss some H&R springs on it, get some dark wheels and sticky tires, grab a pair of Flowmasters, and go piss off some Boomers. Didn't Jag make a supercharged version of that 3.9? Hmmm...
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Didn't Jag make a supercharged version of that 3.9? Hmmm...
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:I actually just saw one (stock) the other day and had the thought again that it almost looks pretty good. I actually like the rear end and the profile's not too bad, but the front is just kinda goofy. I think a Coyote + new trans swap would do wonders for the car. I saw not only a stock last-gen T-bird this weekend, but a first gen as well. Different days, and in different locations, but still... The real one, and the poser.
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Aug 25, 2020 15:41
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While I get that the last T-Bird wasn't exactly a work of art nor a real drivers car, I don't quite get the utter hate and contempt that seems to be around it.
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slidebite posted:While I get that the last T-Bird wasn't exactly a work of art nor a real drivers car, I don't quite get the utter hate and contempt that seems to be around it. It’s anecdotal, but I’ve never met a neo-Tbird owner that I didn’t desperately want to punch in the throat.
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Aug 25, 2020 19:35
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slidebite posted:While I get that the last T-Bird wasn't exactly a work of art nor a real drivers car, I don't quite get the utter hate and contempt that seems to be around it. It's got a real dumb face, a goofy engine, and a thoroughly lame transmission. Also, MrYenko posted:It’s anecdotal, but I’ve never met a neo-Tbird owner that I didn’t desperately want to punch in the throat.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:It's got a real dumb face, a goofy engine, and a thoroughly lame transmission. Also, And for all that I'd still rather see one than any number of copy paste CUVs.
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slidebite posted:While I get that the last T-Bird wasn't exactly a work of art nor a real drivers car, I don't quite get the utter hate and contempt that seems to be around it. Because Ford came so close to doing something awesome, but managed to hit all 1s just off the bullseye. Tweaks to the grille and a more familiar powertrain would've gone a long way.
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Oh sure, it could have been so much better, no doubt. Like 90% of all American cars, and especially decade 00 North American cars. MrYenko posted:It’s anecdotal, but I’ve never met a neo-Tbird owner that I didn’t desperately want to punch in the throat StormDrain posted:And for all that I'd still rather see one than any number of copy paste CUVs.
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Also thanks in part probably to the GTA effect I saw a last Gen T Bird like a quarter mile from my house after posting that.
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Godholio posted:Because Ford came so close to doing something awesome, but managed to hit all 1s just off the bullseye. I'll never understand how they didn't just put the Mustang drivetrain in it, I think they did with the second-to-last generation. It's kinda like the Prowler, 95% of the way to a super awesome cool car, but just stumbled over the finish line.
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Elviscat posted:I'll never understand how they didn't just put the Mustang drivetrain in it, I think they did with the second-to-last generation. I honestly don't know if the 4.6L would have fit. Those things are a mile wide.
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Aug 26, 2020 13:07
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I'm of the thought that the bumper situation did in the Prowler.
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Aug 26, 2020 13:16
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That and lack of suitable powertrain options. Everyone rags on that V6 but it was just about the best option they had at the time.
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I've also heard that the Tbirds (last gens) were too expensive. Like for that price they *should* have had a "better" engine, transmission etc. THe Prowler I always thought was cool too, but maybe if it came with a real manual it would have sold better? THe engine, for the time was decently powerful was it not? Like 250hp or so for a v6?
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Was there any "retro styled" american cars that were actually considered "good"? The SSR, HHR, Prowler, Thunderbird, PT Cruiser, they all sucked in numerous ways.
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Octopus Magic posted:Was there any "retro styled" american cars that were actually considered "good"? The SSR, HHR, Prowler, Thunderbird, PT Cruiser, they all sucked in numerous ways. The PT cruiser is the butt of many a joke but it was a huge sales success and AFAIK fairly reliable and cheap to maintain for what it was. I personally am not a huge fan of retro styling but the Charger is great at being what it is, a big silly muscle car that looks good. The Mustang and Camaro are well regarded of course but IMO they look so much better now that they have gotten away from retro styling a bit. I was interested in a used fifth gen Camaro as a platform for a track toy but looking at the pre-facelift ones made my stomach churn. God they’re awful. i own every Bionicle fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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the prowler is cool
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Octopus Magic posted:Was there any "retro styled" american cars that were actually considered "good"? The SSR, HHR, Prowler, Thunderbird, PT Cruiser, they all sucked in numerous ways. Ford GT and maybe the Bronco but I haven't read much about if they are good or not yet, Challenger?
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Dodge is stuffing in 600-800 HP engines. It could look like a toaster oven and I would think it was cool.
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Dodge needs to grow some balls and make a half hemi. Just chop the hellcat/demon engine in half to have the most ludicrous 4 cylinder out there.
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Coredump posted:Dodge needs to grow some balls and make a half hemi. Just chop the hellcat/demon engine in half to have the most ludicrous 4 cylinder out there. a 350hp 3.1 liter wouldn't be all that special. Mercedes makes a 382hp 2.0 and a bunch of companies make 400hp+ 3 liters.
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Powershift posted:a 350hp 3.1 liter wouldn't be all that special. Mercedes makes a 382hp 2.0 and a bunch of companies make 400hp+ 3 liters. Maybe they could just try to implement some kind of quality control instead, then.
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Godholio posted:Maybe they could just try to implement some kind of quality control instead, then. nah just add 300 more HP to the helldemon.
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Take half a hellcat engine, throw it in a small Peugeot since they own them now and make a 209 TI 16. Or don’t because you know Peugeots since 2001.
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Half of a Hemi, jesus christ what a glorious paint shaker that would be. The Prowler needed easily removable bumpers that wouldn't leave holes in the body and a V8, any V8 just to say it had one.
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They could call up Mitsubishi again and ask if they could borrow some more 4GXX engines.
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https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/houston-bronco-xlt-sport-4x4/7185981775.html no way this is real, unless they forgot a zero or something. they do have a website though.
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Runs good very Full power 
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It's a scam, you rube. It's always a scam
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Aug 29, 2020 07:59
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Something something OJ joke.
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If an ad has its own website, something is up. Also all broncos have huge dents everywhere
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