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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:lol I've got tickets for Takeover Dublin. I bought some for a group of friends and thank gently caress I got them to pay in advance
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Ever know the question to every rhetorical question you want to ask but feel compelled anyway? (oh who am I kidding that's basically what this thread is). Well maybe not every question but... Does anybody in any creative position realize that WWE's creative issues are incredibly self evident but can't punch anything through the Vince-dominated hivemind? "We need more narrative consistency. We need to mitigate repetition. We need more character consistency. Repeating the things that got us into this mess isn't going to get us out of this mess. We need to let our performers perform" just to be constantly caught ripping their hair out as an endless stream of Bruce Pritchards laugh them down for nerd poo poo. (I think they all got driven out except for HHH which explains how he's aged a decade in a year). How badly does Vince want to fix this? Is the central grain of thought in whatever passes for his mind these days come down to "I am capable of doing this my way and succeeding and no compromises will be made?" (Yes, gently caress yes. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He will not accept this isn't possible. He will not go down with the ship because the ship isn't going down). Does Vince even care about ratings, or having fans? (Yes, they are pieces on a board in a game and right now he is losing that game. That it doesn't affect the bottom line is immaterial). Is Dolph Ziggler the X-pac of his generation? In that the fans are sick to hell of him but he sticks around because the boys love wrestling him for some reason? (Probably not. He just won the inertia lottery). Why do I still care even a little bit? (Because I was a WWF fan before I could form memories. It will always be a part of me no matter how much I want it destroyed). ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Sep 2, 2020 |
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ChrisBTY posted:Is Dolph Ziggler the X-pac of his generation? In that the fans are sick to hell of him but he sticks around because the boys love wrestling him for some reason? (Probably not. He just won the inertia lottery). Comparing Sean Waltman to loving Dolph Ziggler is one of the meanest things I've ever read.
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X-Pac Heat lasted for about 18 months, tops. Ziggler's been hated for over 5 years now.
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forkboy84 posted:Comparing Sean Waltman to loving Dolph Ziggler is one of the meanest things I've ever read. nic nemeth and sean waltman are both very talented wrestlers who, as characters, long outstayed their welcome. i don't think that's an unfair comparison at all. the main difference is syxx/x-pac was never pushed as anything beyond a lower card guy who could occasionally hang with midcarders, while dolph got main event level over and nabbed a couple of, in hindsight now viewed as flukey, WHC runs before getting stop-started into oblivion and becoming the "has a boring feud that goes on way too long with every new guy" guy. also he revealed himself to be an unlikable dickweed on social media (which i guarantee waltman would've done in the 90s if given the opportunity)
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Ziggler has the misfortune to exist in the limbo point where he's never pushed enough to have a string of great matches and a storyline that goes somewhere and advances his character, but he's always around so you don't have a chance to miss him.
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ChrisBTY posted:Ever know the question to every rhetorical question you want to ask but feel compelled anyway? (oh who am I kidding that's basically what this thread is). They're following the classic Homer Simpson advice of "don't quit if you're dissatisfied, just show up for work everyday and do it really half assed"
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I think it was last year where Ziggler had a Mania match with Goldberg and it was the most hilariously pathetic thing I've ever seen.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I think it was last year where Ziggler had a Mania match with Goldberg and it was the most hilariously pathetic thing I've ever seen.
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ChrisBTY posted:Does anybody in any creative position realize that WWE's creative issues are incredibly self evident but can't punch anything through the Vince-dominated hivemind? Given the huge amount of turnover on the "creative" staff I think there are no illusions for anybody working there. I wonder how long it takes for somebody to go from showing up thinking this is their dream job to realizing it's a madhouse and their attempts to write anything consistent are doomed to failure?
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Jerusalem posted:Given the huge amount of turnover on the "creative" staff I think there are no illusions for anybody working there. I wonder how long it takes for somebody to go from showing up thinking this is their dream job to realizing it's a madhouse and their attempts to write anything consistent are doomed to failure? No lie that sounds kinda fun depending on how you feel about writing "it's the caterpillar not the worm!" Fifty two thousand times.
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Who could have guessed that desperately trying to sink a competitor instead of focusing on making a good product would lead to a decline in quality?
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Ha. Glad to see my "why is everything a gimmick match now" question was valid.
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Honestly, AEW are doing a mix of dumb things and smart things but the very smartest thing they're doing is making their own show and not anyone else's. Sure, individuals get in a few digs like the "we don't run a sloppy shop" line or the "that's Adam Cole's girlfriend!" joke, but booking decisions aren't being made based on what WWE is up to.
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WWE literally WCWing itself into death is never going to not be funny
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This the same company that had a best-of-seven series end in a tie.
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Dango Bango posted:Ha. Glad to see my "why is everything a gimmick match now" question was valid. The wrestles have no heat, and the gimmick matches are used to attempt to generate interest. It should be that the gimmick match makes sense in the context of the feud and is how they end it. But you can't get people to tune in to see Rhea Ripley vs. Mercedes Martinez, so you promote it as "NXT has a cage match next week!" Why was the 6-man tag a street fight? Why is Ripley challenging Mercedes to a cage match? Why was the ironman match an ironman match? And okay, so you have the cage match next week. Will it just be a normal match that takes place in the cage? Probably.
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Lamuella posted:Honestly, AEW are doing a mix of dumb things and smart things but the very smartest thing they're doing is making their own show and not anyone else's. Sure, individuals get in a few digs like the "we don't run a sloppy shop" line or the "that's Adam Cole's girlfriend!" joke, but booking decisions aren't being made based on what WWE is up to. Except for Cody who just wants to be NWA. But he's dead now, so it's all good.
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https://twitter.com/NXTUK/status/1301142937607311362?s=19 HHH posting a video begging our defensive midfielder to not leave is one of the weirder things about being a West Ham fan. Let's hope it goes better than when he did it for Payet I still can't believe that HHH chose a favourite football team because they have hammers on the badge
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Lamuella posted:Honestly, AEW are doing a mix of dumb things and smart things but the very smartest thing they're doing is making their own show and not anyone else's. Sure, individuals get in a few digs like the "we don't run a sloppy shop" line or the "that's Adam Cole's girlfriend!" joke, but booking decisions aren't being made based on what WWE is up to. Agreed AEW doesn't have that stink of desperation and it's so refreshing. Don't agree with everything they do but it's pro wrestling so there is going to be dumb poo poo even during the best of times.
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PWI reports that WWE are planning to bring back Nigel McGuinness now that Mauro's left
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Mauros done done, or just taking a break done? Mauro could be really good on AEWs (eventual) B show. A booth with Taz, Veda, and Mauro would be dope.
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Sounds like he’s done done.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Mauros done done, or just taking a break done? He's done done. His statement said he fulfilled his childhood dream, and now he wants to move on.
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Isn’t this like the third time he’s left?
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Absolutely gone at them ending a four way Iron Man Match in a draw. My initial reaction was "It'll probably be a great match but gently caress me does this all not feel like a gigantic waste of everyone's time" and they couldn't even give me the first part without putting a giant turd on the outcome.
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Takeover dublin infection rate
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Gonzo McFee posted:Absolutely gone at them ending a four way Iron Man Match in a draw. My initial reaction was "It'll probably be a great match but gently caress me does this all not feel like a gigantic waste of everyone's time" and they couldn't even give me the first part without putting a giant turd on the outcome. Somewhere, sitting in Hawaii, Bret Hart wants his loving belt back.
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Was there a reason why NXT was yesterday? USA doing basketball games tonight or something?
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explosivo posted:Was there a reason why NXT was yesterday? USA doing basketball games tonight or something? There was a hockey series that would have preempted NXT but it ended early.
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Dango Bango posted:There was a hockey series that would have preempted NXT but it ended early. Ah okay, I was originally thinking this is them testing the waters to move to a Tuesday show to stop people comparing it to AEW but that makes more sense.
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https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1301196914386513920 Sean's thought for a while NXT might move to Tuesdays long term. Numbers being better for that day than they have been for a long time on Wednesday would help
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Chris James 2 posted:https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1301196914386513920 lol if wwe admits defeat to dynamites timeslot before we even hit 1 year
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