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wow, officer Miltwitter is loving hot this morning about E vs. O punishment double standards
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Sep 2, 2020 21:37
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GD_American posted:wow, officer Miltwitter is loving hot this morning about E vs. O punishment double standards What happened to LT tiktok? I thought he got a sabot round to the chest?
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Sep 2, 2020 21:50
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Basically the eternal argument about whether a GOMOR which carries no extra duty or financial hardship but puts you on clear ETS glidepath is worse than or better than an article 15 which has time/finance hardship but is recoverable as far as not being forced out.
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Sep 2, 2020 21:55
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I've found that higher ups love, LOVE, a dude who fucks up and recovers. I think it validates their personal beliefs in bootstraps or something. I have seen guys, of whom I was certain had committed career ending fuckups (multiple times even), "correcting" course (getting better at hiding it) and ending up flying through the ranks and commanding brigades and divisions. But that could also simply be my birds of a feather theory about high ranking people.
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Sep 2, 2020 22:02
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spacetoaster posted:I've found that higher ups love, LOVE, a dude who fucks up and recovers. I think it validates their personal beliefs in bootstraps or something. "Got to get de-moted to get pro-moted"
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Sep 2, 2020 22:03
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GD_American posted:"Got to get de-moted to get pro-moted" My dad was promoted to E-4 three times. lol I couldn't make E-4, so I got a commision.
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Sep 2, 2020 22:04
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spacetoaster posted:I've found that higher ups love, LOVE, a dude who fucks up and recovers. I think it validates their personal beliefs in bootstraps or something. Ducks pick ducks. The biggest problem in the Navy O leadership. This is how we ended up with USS Fitzgerald and USS John S. McCain collisions where sailors died while asleep in their berthing because officers couldn't manage risk and drive ships.
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Sep 3, 2020 18:00
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Howard Phillips posted:Ducks pick ducks. The biggest problem in the Navy O leadership. This is how we ended up with USS Fitzgerald and USS John S. McCain collisions where sailors died while asleep in their berthing because officers couldn't manage risk and drive ships. Yeesh. But yeah. The Army is trying to fix that by making selection boards even more blind so that an infantry ranger COL with a combat deployment and combat medals can't select another officer with a similar background. Also your official photo is gone too. I understand what they're trying to fix, but holy poo poo will it probably allow dirtbags to slip through more often.
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Sep 3, 2020 22:32
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They needed to get rid of the photos. One of the officers from my deployment tried to get at her expense the official background for her promotion board to CPT(national guard) shipped to Africa. Of course she didn’t get it there because they found a way to not ship it, but it serves nobody having DA photos and just wastes money and time.
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Sep 4, 2020 00:05
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White Chocolate posted:They needed to get rid of the photos. One of the officers from my deployment tried to get at her expense the official background for her promotion board to CPT(national guard) shipped to Africa. Of course she didn’t get it there because they found a way to not ship it, but it serves nobody having DA photos and just wastes money and time. AR 640–30 allows you to be exempt from photo requirements if you're in a place where you can't get one.
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Sep 4, 2020 01:08
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Just checked the status of my disability appeal on the VA's website. Says they closed it on April 30 due to them not hearing back from me. Someone in my attorney's office has some 'splaining to do.
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Sep 4, 2020 03:03
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McNally posted:Just checked the status of my disability appeal on the VA's website. Says they closed it on April 30 due to them not hearing back from me. SSA is being extremely lenient on reasons for late filing of appeals, hope VA is too.
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Sep 4, 2020 03:29
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PeterCat posted:I'm watching my unit slowly turn into Nazis. A while ago one of the guys told me he was listening to a Jordan Peterson recommended audio book about how the people who perpetrated the Holocaust justified it mentally. Yeah it's pretty loving bad. You'll get TARP briefs about ISIS but none about loving boogaloo. I found a bunch of "boogaloo 2020" stickers near our building and had to explain to my (older) commander what they were so he could put out a statement against it. Also had a another fellow company commander a couple years ago who made his LTs read Peterson - this was before I really knew who he was. That commander is super, super misogynistic and I hope he has a bunch of female subordinates who won't put up with him. Ashmole fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Sep 5, 2020 |
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Sep 5, 2020 06:54
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Ashmole posted:Yeah it's pretty loving bad. You'll get TARP briefs about ISIS but none about loving boogaloo. I found a bunch of "boogaloo 2020" stickers near our building and had to explain to my (older) commander what they were so he could put out a statement against it. Is Boogaloo a bunch of retards LARPing or is it actually organized and have a political mission?
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Sep 5, 2020 22:17
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Howard Phillips posted:retards No.
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Sep 5, 2020 22:41
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Howard Phillips posted:Is Boogaloo a bunch of retards LARPing or is it actually organized and have a political mission? Loosely affiliated I think. Some dudes just got busted by the FBI for trying to sell weapons to Hamas. I mean, it's hard to be in the military when you're hanging out with people who want a second civil war (electric boogalo)
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Sep 5, 2020 22:50
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Boogaloo is a meme on the internet that a handful of idiots and the media (also idiots) have taken too seriously.
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Sep 6, 2020 00:11
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Suntan Boy posted:Hunter Liggett? The smoke from the fires was fun, too. Worse. Camp Shelby.
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Sep 13, 2020 02:21
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Sooooo anyone gone to airborne school recently? It may or may not be in my future because of the unit I'm transferring to. Just wanted to get a feel for what to expect. Also I've been in for a long time so I'm not in OCS shape anymore so I've got to work on that, which I intend to. Thoughts about the non-physical aspect of the schoolhouse? All I remember from benning is seeing the huge airborne towers when we marched to class, and being all jelly.
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Sep 20, 2020 17:30
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My class didn’t even do the big towers, too much wind (this was 2009, but I doubt a whole lot has changed there). Keep your chin tucked as much as you can, and learn to do your parachute landing falls (PLFs) right. It’ll save you from getting your bell rung too much on the swing landing trainers, or an actual jump. Also, bring plenty of medical tape. Your hands are going to be blistered in ways you never knew existed, either from pull-ups every time you enter the company area or those drat straps on the swing landing trainers. Actual jumps won’t be so bad, the chutes respond to your tugging easier than the training rigs do. As for the actual jumps...the zip line towers are pretty close to what you’ll feel on the plane, plus a shitload of wind (and bad Air Force piloting). The running joke for my class was “nobody ever wants to jump out of a plane, until an AF pilot is in control  ” As long as you aren’t the first person out the door, it’ll feel about like jumping out of the little zip line towers until the wind and free fall hits you and “OH HOLY gently caress MEEEEEEEE HAIL SATAN MY CHUTE ACTUALLY OPENED”
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Sep 20, 2020 17:38
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White Chocolate posted:Sooooo anyone gone to airborne school recently? It may or may not be in my future because of the unit I'm transferring to. Just wanted to get a feel for what to expect. Also I've been in for a long time so I'm not in OCS shape anymore so I've got to work on that, which I intend to. It's a joke of a school that shouldn't be three weeks long
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Sep 20, 2020 17:55
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Your back and joints have my sympathies.
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Sep 20, 2020 18:07
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It could easily be shortened to one week and accomplish exactly the same thing. As long as you’re in good shape you’ll be fine.
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Sep 20, 2020 18:09
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Pretty much all of my medical disability comes from being airborne. I'm 30 and only jumped for 3 years in my early 20s. Good luck!
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Sep 20, 2020 18:24
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I'm waiting on imagery of my knees to confirm how hosed they feel from my five years in the Airborne(!)
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Sep 20, 2020 18:51
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My back, neck, and knees look like they’re from someone twice my age because I spent months chasing jumps so I could attend Jumpmaster. Want to know the trick to being in an Airborne unit? Jump as little as you possibly can.
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Sep 20, 2020 20:57
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A Bad Poster posted:Pretty much all of my medical disability comes from being airborne. I'm 30 and only jumped for 3 years in my early 20s. Good luck! Both my knees were replaced before 40. My back has three distinct areas of compression and pinched nerves. Every time I sneeze, I get shooting pains down my arms. Ask me about my Airborne career. That's not even counting the massive concussion I got doing everything right- except being Airborne and being forced to jump in winds way over what is allowed for operations. According to Airborne school, if ever needed, school can be compressed to 4 days. Hope you like running at a bone crunching pace. It's not fast, just slow enough to be extra painful.
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Sep 20, 2020 21:02
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Well there goes all my super hooah
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Sep 20, 2020 21:52
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School is pretty easy. If you get assigned to a Jump Status unit, then things become more dicey over time. You can absolutely everything right, and still get hurt. Human beings weren't designed to car crash into the ground on the reg. It's not an If, it's a when. The more jumps, the greater role luck will play.
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Sep 20, 2020 23:04
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iKon posted:It could easily be shortened to one week and accomplish exactly the same thing. As long as you’re in good shape you’ll be fine. your av loving owns.
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Sep 20, 2020 23:12
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I forget what the injury rate is for airborne school, but I remember it being stupidly high (even by army standards) and everything from a sprained ankle to high-speed lawn dart is on the table. The stories of someone shattering their spine on a lovely landing are all probably true, and I imagine the scenario of Blood On The Risers had to have happened FAR too many times for that to not have a basis in reality. e: Mr. Nice! posted:your av loving owns. Holy poo poo 
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Sep 20, 2020 23:20
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One of the commanders at my last unit broke his leg and hip at airborne school after a piece of equipment broke. So, err, good luck?
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Sep 20, 2020 23:30
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Things are supposed to be a little better with the T-11 parachute. Slower rate of descent. Also, av courtesy of goon Barcley.
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Sep 21, 2020 01:04
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iKon posted:Things are supposed to be a little better with the T-11 parachute. Slower rate of descent. yeah but 6 second open from 800-1200 feet is, uhh, not a lot of room for error
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Sep 21, 2020 01:07
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iKon posted:It could easily be shortened to one week and accomplish exactly the same thing. As long as you’re in good shape you’ll be fine. Yup. It’s like being stuck in lovely high school gym class for three weeks.
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Sep 21, 2020 01:50
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You don't even need to be in good shape. I had a whole bunch of stress fractures when I went through.
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Sep 21, 2020 02:00
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Someone I know almost had the their head ripped off on their first jump in jump school because the jumpmaster didn't grab the static line. He's lucky to be alive. Caught him around and slashed his neck while it ripped his helmet off, shearing the bolts.
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Sep 21, 2020 05:28
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If the school can be that short, why don't we knock active Airborne down to a battalion that can cadre up the draftees in WWIII and quit pretending Operation Market Garden 2 is right around the corner? Seems like the money we save on the VA side would be substantial at least.
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Sep 21, 2020 06:02
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GD_American posted:If the school can be that short, why don't we knock active Airborne down to a battalion that can cadre up the draftees in WWIII and quit pretending Operation Market Garden 2 is right around the corner? Because gently caress You, that's why.
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GD_American posted:If the school can be that short, why don't we knock active Airborne down to a battalion that can cadre up the draftees in WWIII and quit pretending Operation Market Garden 2 is right around the corner? But then the 82nd wouldn’t get to huff it’s own farts NEAR as often all around Fayetteville! 
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