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Alchenar posted:Everything about Mariner's characterisation tells us she should not want to be in Starfleet. She doesn't want to be in Starfleet. But she'd rather be in Starfleet than give her mom the satisfaction of being right.
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I think she very much wants to be in Starfleet She just wants Starfleet to be a little bit different than she (mostly correctly) perceives it
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MadJackal posted:I loving knew it was based off the janky-rear end Cerritos Auto Square. hahaha I was wondering why that name was so damned familiar but I only lived in LA for a few years so it didn't burn in as deeply
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The_Doctor posted:I’m assuming Michael arrives earlier, spends a bunch of offscreen time with new character Book, grows her hair out, then Disco arrives. Following the ST09 theory of "first one in ends up earlier," like what happened with Nero and Spock?
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I mean, it’s kind of a great way to reboot Burnham’s character if they wanted. She has some mostly offscreen growth as she waits for Discovery to arrive, and she rejoins the crew as a slightly better person.
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Late as poo poo to the party, but I just want to express my love for the USS Vancouver. I love that they stealthily pulled in design elements from the Luna-class for it. It's probably the closest we're gonna get to seeing the USS Titan on screen unless Lower Decks pulls out some amazing batshit curveball, which, if Michael McMahan is the kind of guy he seems to be... actually just might  I mean, it's what I would do I could get away with it, and probably even if I couldn't too.Still, gently caress yeah Canada in Star Trek. What a wonderful unicorn sighting 
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The USS Vancouver is my favorite ship from these new series, I like it even more than the USS Shenzhou which is the best of the Discovery-era ships
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Tars Tarkas posted:The USS Vancouver is my favorite ship from these new series, I like it even more than the USS Shenzhou which is the best of the Discovery-era ships I'm quite the fan of Disco's take on the Enterprise. The air holes in the nacelle pylons are kinda weird, but beyond that it's a good update on the 60s design, but I'm a weirdo who never liked the look of the OG 1701 as-is, so just about any take I've seen trying to update it aside from the JJprise has looked spectacular to me. But yeah, the Vancouver just knocked it off its perch as my favourite Modern Trek ship.
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ashpanash posted:They're Enterprise shuttles! (Did they make good food? The only episode where I can even remember a meal is from Timescape, but that was a runabout, and seemed like a more executive version of it (with a huge dining room!) besides. I seem to remember that DS9 had lovely replicators because, you know, Cardassians, and the Defiant also wasn't making 10-course meals. As I've said, I didn't watch a whole lot of Voyager, but I know they needed Neelix to cook for them, but they also may have just explained that away as an energy issue (even though they had plenty for their holodeck and whatever else most of the time, but whatever.) Oh yeah, Neelix cooking was 100% explained away as the replicators use too much power, which they rationed and still used them anyways. And the Holodecks had their own power system that was incompatible with anything else on the ship. No, that doesn't make any sense either. They could have said that the impulse engines have fusion power generators that produce enough power to run everything but warp drive, shields and weapons. And they're going to run out of antimatter in a few years which will leave them stranded without warp drive and so on and had to deal with that.
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Nullsmack posted:Oh yeah, Neelix cooking was 100% explained away as the replicators use too much power, which they rationed and still used them anyways. And the Holodecks had their own power system that was incompatible with anything else on the ship. No, that doesn't make any sense either. They could have said that the impulse engines have fusion power generators that produce enough power to run everything but warp drive, shields and weapons. And they're going to run out of antimatter in a few years which will leave them stranded without warp drive and so on and had to deal with that. It is my pet theory that Voyager operated solely on Janeway sneaking into Engineering during third watch and screaming directly at the warp core for an hour. It helped offset Torres trying to climb into it and murder it with her bare hands in a fit of rage every other day.
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nine-gear crow posted:It is my pet theory that Voyager operated solely on Janeway sneaking into Engineering during third watch and screaming directly at the warp core for an hour. It helped offset Torres trying to climb into it and murder it with her bare hands in a fit of rage every other day. there's coffee in that internalized rage
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That "hard left turn" left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. I was always extremely meh about the idea of the collapse of the Federation but I guess I'll give it a chance. Something something leopards keep eating my face, but yeah.
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Nullsmack posted:Oh yeah, Neelix cooking was 100% explained away as the replicators use too much power, which they rationed and still used them anyways. And the Holodecks had their own power system that was incompatible with anything else on the ship. No, that doesn't make any sense either. They could have said that the impulse engines have fusion power generators that produce enough power to run everything but warp drive, shields and weapons. And they're going to run out of antimatter in a few years which will leave them stranded without warp drive and so on and had to deal with that. ETA: this was made worse by my "why don't they just use bullets on the Borg?" question being answerd in First Contact with "turns out everyone in Starfleet is dumber than you".
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Drone posted:That "hard left turn" left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Saaame. Otherwise, the trailer was fine. No surprises there, but it looks like it has potential even if the ~hope~ stuff is going to be a slog. It seems like it may have finally found its fitting, even if what it wants to be isn't really for me. The Lower Decks trailer on the other hand looks great, but I'm probably swayed by the cameo. My only complaint is that it looks like it continues the show's trend of making all our main characters too important. The premise of the show is paid off the best when our main characters aren't constantly on important missions and hanging out with the captain and saving the day. And I'm gonna listen to the poo poo out of that PFT/Tawny podcast.
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nine-gear crow posted:Late as poo poo to the party, but I just want to express my love for the USS Vancouver. I love that they stealthily pulled in design elements from the Luna-class for it. It's probably the closest we're gonna get to seeing the USS Titan on screen unless Lower Decks pulls out some amazing batshit curveball, which, if Michael McMahan is the kind of guy he seems to be... actually just might Yeah I totally have a girlfriend...uh she lives in Canada Apparently one of the shuttles was named the Kitsilano? LMAO
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I really hope that "hard turn left" is just a figure of speech, and not some chuddy turn for the show. Though I can't see how the Federation could be any more fully automatic space communism than it already is. If i had to guess, this Burn was some kind of disaster that caused the Federation to either turn inward even more than what we saw in Picard or the other way, became more authoritative. I've heard rumors that the Trill are a major part of the future federation and I wonder if its a sinister turn, because some immortal ankylosarus taking over though a long game of power would not surprise me.
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Drone posted:That "hard left turn" left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. "People started to see the Federation as reckless, deadly, and acting with impunity. They rose up across the galaxy, attacking Federation officers, burning Federation buildings... They called themselves Awn-Typha, a dangerous group with insidious communalist ideals originating with a figure known only as Markz. As Markzist-culturalism spread throughout the galaxy, the Federation's glory began to fade, and unwanted alien races began to flood their worlds..."
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Bilirubin posted:Yeah I totally have a girlfriend...uh she lives in Canada It reminds me of Reboot and how they slipped references to Vancouver in every other episode. twistedmentat posted:I really hope that "hard turn left" is just a figure of speech, and not some chuddy turn for the show. Though I can't see how the Federation could be any more fully automatic space communism than it already is. The phrase "hard/wild left turn" has been around for a while to sum up things going unexpectedly crazy or off the rails. I don't think there's any real political connection to be found there. Also chasing chud approval is a losing errand every time, Star Wars proved that well enough. If CBS is trying to court folks like Doomcock, Mecharandom, Midnight's Edge, or that dude with the ballsack beard then... well... poo poo really has taken a hard left turn 
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Sep 9, 2020 06:13
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Doesn't it just mean that you turned across traffic and got t-boned by a truck?
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Arquinsiel posted:Doesn't it just mean that you turned across traffic and got t-boned by a truck? A pretty apt description of modern Star Trek imo.
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Arc Light posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEsO1Z0QWg ...Literally everyone? 
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Drone posted:Anyone have a version of that video that's viewable outside the US? Can't find a good re-upload. All I get for searching Lower Decks on YouTube is just assholes mad that Trek is funny now or some poo poo.
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I just used a VPN, that worked. Looks neat and fun, but that single "voila" from Q didn't sound like John de Lancie  He has a pretty distinct voice and all.
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The Bern
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Lizard Combatant posted:The Bern oh poo poo, that was the Hard Left Turn.
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Fully onboard for season 3.  https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/1303413130203029504
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So do we have to maintain the megathread, or can we open individual threads again? I honestly don't care about Lower Decks, I'm mostly here for Discovery. I appreciated the slower pace of that thread. Would it be okay if I made a Discovery thread sometimes in October, before the next season airs?
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Drone posted:Looks neat and fun, but that single "voila" from Q didn't sound like John de Lancie Maybe it's a lower decks Q who wants his own set of starfleet characters to play with. And everyone's just like 'oh psh you're not the Q' as he gets more and more infuriated.
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Torrannor posted:So do we have to maintain the megathread, or can we open individual threads again? I honestly don't care about Lower Decks, I'm mostly here for Discovery. I appreciated the slower pace of that thread. Would it be okay if I made a Discovery thread sometimes in October, before the next season airs? Discovery starts the week after Lower Decks ends, so there’s no overlap between the two.
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Bilirubin posted:Yeah I totally have a girlfriend...uh she lives in Canada The shuttles that we see are the Kitsilano, Fairview and Marpole and the mess hall menu includes sushi and poutine.
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nine-gear crow posted:The phrase "hard/wild left turn" has been around for a while to sum up things going unexpectedly crazy or off the rails. I don't think there's any real political connection to be found there. Also chasing chud approval is a losing errand every time, Star Wars proved that well enough. If CBS is trying to court folks like Doomcock, Mecharandom, Midnight's Edge, or that dude with the ballsack beard then... well... poo poo really has taken a hard left turn I just can't believe that in 2020 of all years they would be so naive. The words "right" and "left" are just too charged with meaning at this point and the line is used in context of the Federation's politics—plus it would have worked just as well phrased as "took a hard turn." It has to be intentional.
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If you heard that phrase and thought it was some slight against left wing politics you severely need a vacation from the internet.
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The guy currently running the franchise is a truther who made a truther Star Trek movie.
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No he isn't, that's Roberto Orci.
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