Squiggly posted:

Please don't make fun of me this is actually one of my favorite songs

Mr. Steak posted:

this is my honorable mention
https://m.soundcloud.com/dipshitdumb/anaconda-x-phantom-of-the

Power of Pecota posted:

I'm also going to stop holding back the other thing I want to do but also don't want to do and ##vote Squiggly, call it OMGUS but there's nothing reading as straight-up bullshit to me right now as him reading my Tobbs vote as attempting a turbo while completely ignoring the Steak votes at the start of the day

Squiggly posted:

Unless he scum claims I will not vote steak D1 because it's likely he will do something insane at some point and that is what I want from my mafia games

b-minus1 posted:

This post isn’t pinging me hard
“That doesn’t make me scum” aka you are correct but for the wrong reasons

##vote squiggly

Retro Futurist posted:

People not agreeing with you doesn't make you scum. People agree with scum all the time, otherwise they'd never win

Squiggly posted:

It's clear you don't agree with me, but that doesn't make me scum

Checkmate

spacing in vienna posted:

Ok I'll chill out with the music chat but people posting mashups and toalpaz posting pendulum means I need to include this

pendulum foxes bob etc claritycraft

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

I already hinted at my role with the questions about OOT comms. Rather than get killed N1 I decided to try something funny and continue as unsalted town!

Power of Pecota posted:

Squiggly - please tell me why you believe town would claim a role as usable once per day when asked if it's repeatable, then 17 minutes later say "Never mind, I lied"

Squiggly posted:

Ignored so hard I commented on it. If you're asking why I'm not holding it against these people for voting steak, it's because it's the same sentiment that happens every game and opens up almost every joke phase in recent history?

Jen X posted:

Instead, turbo steak and make the game easier for everyone instead of having to execute him on D3 as is inevitable

spacing in vienna posted:

At this post I literally checked to see if you were a new player. Because wow.

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Cuz nobody who is scum will answer it. Look at Sanswolf response lol

Power of Pecota posted:

I also knew you wouldn't say anything about this later post where Jen clarified her vote isn't a joke:

Because you're faking this read hardcore and why you're ignoring my questions about what you believe about Tobbs, you don't want to have a good faith discussion about it. It's how me unvoting Tobbs and reevaluating becomes both me "squirming out of it" and "dying on this hill" when literally no one else was voting with you.

spacing in vienna posted:

Okay. I think your situation is best left tabled until tomorrow, for various reasons, but at the very least if you're town this is so crappy.

Jen X posted:

that is a joke tho

Toalpaz posted:

##vote chedda

cheese scum claimed last game and this game is not different,s ee you day two.

spacing in vienna posted:

Throwing out there for the record that iirc I have yet to read toalpaz as town in a game, ever, so if anyone else has good toalpaz-dar I'm relying on you here

Power of Pecota posted:

That's a good point - ##unvote

I still don't buy Tobbs' explanation of his thought process whatsoever but it is a pretty pointless power for scum.

spacing in vienna posted:

Ok I have this weird vibe from pop like --

Like he's making all of these arguments and then following it out logically and look there's an opportunity to step in and call this out except it all seems ... Forced? Artificial.

Like I don't get the vibe that pop is actually going "hey, that feels scummy" or whatever, it's coming off more like "person X has done 3 things which count as scummy, so I will make that case." Like it's more of an academic exercise than it is something he actually believes?

Am I the only one getting that feeling?

Yes, I realize this is a weird thing to accuse him of, since he can't exactly counterargue it effectively, but I'm not going to not point it out just because of that.

Squiggly posted:

He's Rick Astley. It was perfect.

This is quite a hill to die on, seeing as you unvoted but can't seem to let it go. Doesn't really seem like you want to vote elsewhere and I don't think this whole convo feels very real to me

Power of Pecota posted:

Wait, really? I thought you legit wanted to policy vote him.

Power of Pecota posted:

Would that even work against a lie detector if Amni was a ninja?

If that's the role I'm thinking of he would still have visited the target even if he wouldn't have been seen visiting the target by a tracker/watcher/whatever

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Oh btw steak is scum or the turbo would have gone through thanks and god bless

spacing in vienna posted:

It's possible that powers aren't tied to alignment, that we get powers from songs and then alignments were determined. So I don't think "it's a pointless power for scum to have" is a good reason to unvote. That just means scum would have more incentive to oops waste it so they can't use it on a bro (or conversely, save it for bussing cred)

spacing in vienna posted:

Ok I have this weird vibe from pop like --

Like he's making all of these arguments and then following it out logically and look there's an opportunity to step in and call this out except it all seems ... Forced? Artificial.

Like I don't get the vibe that pop is actually going "hey, that feels scummy" or whatever, it's coming off more like "person X has done 3 things which count as scummy, so I will make that case." Like it's more of an academic exercise than it is something he actually believes?

Am I the only one getting that feeling?

Yes, I realize this is a weird thing to accuse him of, since he can't exactly counterargue it effectively, but I'm not going to not point it out just because of that.

spacing in vienna posted:

It's possible that powers aren't tied to alignment, that we get powers from songs and then alignments were determined. So I don't think "it's a pointless power for scum to have" is a good reason to unvote. That just means scum would have more incentive to oops waste it so they can't use it on a bro (or conversely, save it for bussing cred)

Squiggly posted:

Y'all can just start calling me Cassandra

Squiggly posted:

It's clear you don't agree with me, but that doesn't make me scum

Checkmate

Amnistar posted:

I suspect this is true as well. It's how I would have done things if I were running the game at least.

I'm actually pretty happy with ##vote Tobbs. I think the ploy was to come out with a townie power but not use it to clear or incriminate anyone.

Amnistar posted:

I suspect this is true as well. It's how I would have done things if I were running the game at least.

I'm actually pretty happy with ##vote Tobbs. I think the ploy was to come out with a townie power but not use it to clear or incriminate anyone.

Amnistar posted:

I suspect this is true as well. It's how I would have done things if I were running the game at least.

Sandwolf posted:

I agree with PoP, if Tobbs is scum (which I don't think he is) it will become apparent quickly, I think.

Power of Pecota posted:

Is it different than the vibe you got from me in the fire and ice game? If I see something that looks scummy, I go for that over gut anytime.


You know the aphorism "If you hear hooves, think horses"? Unless that's explicitly stated, I wouldn't expect roles to be assigned before alignments. Scum probably aren't going to have a doctor.

I still don't like how Tobbs has played like, anything this game but I don't think it makes sense to vote him today.

Amnistar posted:

How so? Tommorrow rolls around and they continue to claim "It was only a 1 shot I have no powers". How does that make them more clearly scum?

Amnistar posted:

How so? Tommorrow rolls around and they continue to claim "It was only a 1 shot I have no powers". How does that make them more clearly scum?

spacing in vienna posted:

It is, somehow, and I don't know how or why. I know you're generally someone who goes after things he sees, so it's not the fact that you're playing aggressively early. That's generally pro town, to get things started.

So I'm not sure what it is. I was hoping if I called it out, other people might be able to tell me if they saw it, too, or if I was seeing things.

Power of Pecota posted:

Can we get confirmation from Pig on this?

I feel like if that's the case it should be known like nonstandard "if there's one scum left, they can use their power and perform the NK" things.

There was a game where the latter was the case that burned me with Diqnol and TNL years ago and I'm still kinda sour about it.

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Amnistar is scum too. Ever so careful with his posts, trying to convince himself that I'm a safe person for scum to vote.

spacing in vienna posted:

I got burned on something similar in a game, along the lines of what counts as a night action, and it hosed town, so I feel you on that one.

Tobbs Gnawed posted:

Amnistar is scum too. Ever so careful with his posts, trying to convince himself that I'm a safe person for scum to vote.

spacing in vienna posted:

If they claim it as one shot tomorrow, we know for sure that it is, and that means they're either the only vanilla in the game or scum, which means I have zero problems voting them out.

Squiggly posted:

Sandwolf posted:

this feels weirdly nervous