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Dabir posted:yeah the gamecube version is the real version there, PC heroes is a mess. GCN heroes is a mess too of course, heroes is just a mess Gamecube was the original developed version. Xbox was a decent port, PC was a mess, and Playstation 2 was a disaster. If you want the worst possible experience, get the Playstation 3 one - it's the Playstation 2 version played on a lovely emulator. It's got all the PS2 bugs and missing features with extra bonus bugs on top.
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george bunnyhop surprisingly enjoying heroes so much was like whiplash to me then i realized he probably didnt play it 4 times to get the final story
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I didn't play SA1 or 2 as a kid (didn't have a dc or gc, I convinced my saint mother to get a Saturn LOL) so playing heroes in middle school as baby's first 3d sonic has always been my 100% blind-spot nostalgia title that I can't ever physically bring myself to hate   I'll the the advice and see will see if it survives the test of time emulated on dolphin. The pc mod had a hack that extends draw distance so I hope dolphin has something like that too...
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The first time I played Sonic Adventure was somewhere near the launch in Australia, I had chicken pox and was medicated as gently caress. GOTY.
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Sep 15, 2020 17:28
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thinking back to the start of the year when they said 2020 would be the year of sonic https://twitter.com/sonic20th/status/1212025629098565633 
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My first sonic game was the OG and sonic heroes was my favorite 3d entry for a long while. I know that's an unpopular opinion but the bad controls never took away from the awesome aesthetic choices they made for the game. I always thought the 3d games had terrible control so whats one a little jankier with art and music i find a lot more appealing?
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Sep 15, 2020 17:37
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Kikas posted:And then I am reminded that they chose the most boring and basic stage to represent Heroes in Generations Seaside Hill shows up in tons of games because it's basically just Green Hill but with royalty-free music, but Generations already had the real thing so I don't know why they bothered in that case.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:03
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Sonic is going to end up being the biggest movie of 2020 so in a way, it was Sonic's year.
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Bad boys for life was bigger tho?
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Detective No. 27 posted:Sonic is going to end up being the biggest movie of 2020 so in a way, it was Sonic's year. Always has been
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Sep 15, 2020 18:14
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ArfJason posted:sonic 1: GHZ 
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Stairmaster posted:Bad boys for life was bigger tho? Sonic's in that one too
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ArfJason posted:If not aquarium park maybe sweet mountain, tropical resort, hell, starlight carnival They really should just re-release Colors as Colors DX for modern consoles and PC. It holds up well enough at 1080p as is, judging by Dolphin. Improve the texture resolution and push it out for low price, I reckon it'd sell well enough. Hell, look at how it looks with a fan just dumping all the textures into Gigapixel Upscaler and autoupping them all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWR0GJfLh4s MikeJF fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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Sep 15, 2020 18:33
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MikeJF posted:Gamecube was the original developed version. Xbox was a decent port, PC was a mess, and Playstation 2 was a disaster. How's the PC version a mess? From my experience the problems are extremely minimal like almost unnoticeable missing effects. Better than running it on Dolphin for sure.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:42
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I literally couldn't get Heroes running on my current machine at all. PC gaming is a total shitshow for anything designed for XP or older. Plus Dolphin runs like a dream, doesn't require game installs and has a bunch of options for uprezzing. It's an absolutely solid choice, especially when the PC version doesn't add anything to the experience.
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Sep 15, 2020 18:48
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I literally couldn't get Heroes running on my current machine at all. PC gaming is a total shitshow for anything designed for XP or older. Did you check the PCGW article? Usually it has working patches and whatnot. As for Dolphin... emulation always adds glitches. Although it's hard to know with Heroes, given that it is what it is.
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MikeJF posted:They really should just re-release Colors as Colors DX for modern consoles and PC. It holds up well enough at 1080p as is, judging by Dolphin. Improve the texture resolution and push it out for low price, I reckon it'd sell well enough. that looks surprisingly decent honestly the one mod i want above all is to take out the loving obnoxious filtering on music when boosting. i remember like 6 years ago trying to mod it out of pc generations and never managing to
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Stink Terios posted:Did you check the PCGW article? Usually it has working patches and whatnot. Nah, people say that constantly, but any major console up to and including PS2 and GameCube emulate without issue, and even PS3 has an increasingly decent working emulator now. I played Heroes on Dolphin and it runs exactly the same as it always did.
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ArfJason posted:that looks surprisingly decent that and turning up the volume on the Eggman PA announcements, they're funny but you can barely hear them in the Wii version
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First time I played Heores was one summer when I was at a summer house and when it got too hot to play outside I'd go inside and play. So over the course of two weeks I've back to back 100% Sonic Heroes, Shadow and Sonic Riders for the PS2. Still fond memories of all these games.
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robot roll call posted:that and turning up the volume on the Eggman PA announcements, they're funny but you can barely hear them in the Wii version Don't they come from the Wiimote?
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Nah, people say that constantly, but any major console up to and including PS2 and GameCube emulate without issue, and even PS3 has an increasingly decent working emulator now. I played Heroes on Dolphin and it runs exactly the same as it always did. Ehhhh, I know the game is fully playable (it is, I 100%ed it on Dolphin) but I don't trust it to be Perfect. BSNES it ain't. PS2 emulation also has a long way to go, you still have to switch between hardware and software if you want the sky rendered correctly in Burnout 3. Kikas posted:Don't they come from the Wiimote? Nope, they're just badly mixed.
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Disc emulation will always be fucky due to the fact that you cannot really emulate a spinning physical drive. That's why you can have working NES and SNES emulators, but PS2 and GCN are a bit trickier.
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ArfJason posted:sonic 1: GHZ 1: Green Hill 2: Chemical Plant had to be it, but Casino Night 3: I think a 3D Launch Base would be sick as hell but there should also be an &Knuckles stage, and since this section of the game ends with the Death Egg Robot, Death Egg SA1: Lost World SA2: City Escape is the iconic one Heroes: Egg Fleet no question 06: Crisis City Unleashed: Rooftop Run Colors: End it on a space level, Asteroid Coaster or even better a completely re imagined Terminal Velocity
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ArfJason posted:george bunnyhop surprisingly enjoying heroes so much was like whiplash to me then i realized he probably didnt play it 4 times to get the final story
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Stink Terios posted:Did you check the PCGW article? Usually it has working patches and whatnot. I watched through a friend of mine go through Heroes on dolphin and it seemed ok. Only bit that seemed weirder than normal was the special stages, but those were already jank and I couldn't tell if it was jankier or if maybe my friend was just that bad at them (it was his first time through heroes and I never had much issue on GC).
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my generations 2 wish list hasnt changed since the last time i made it but: star light mystic cave lava reef, hydrocity if i can cheat and get both an s3 and s&k stage lost world crazy gadget hang castle/mystic mansion with a bigger focus on the mystic mansion part kingdom valley jungle joyride asteroid coaster or terminal velocity if reimagined like sky sanctuary was theres not really a good sense of progression here even if they were to be rearranged but idc, these are my favorite stages that werent already done in generations Ms. Unsmiley fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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A few days late, but this came across my recommends: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPz1mqQjzvA
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Kikas posted:Disc emulation will always be fucky due to the fact that you cannot really emulate a spinning physical drive. That's why you can have working NES and SNES emulators, but PS2 and GCN are a bit trickier. what sega cd emulation is easy, clean, and accurate, and has been for over a decade. gcn emulation is smooth as butter, and wii emulation is just as good. ps3 emulation is also good, as long as you have reasonably powerful hardware. ps2 emulation is the unwanted stepchild that would run like poo poo on a supercomputer with a dozen gpus Fur20 fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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Sep 15, 2020 20:31
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nintendo 64 is a cartridge-based system and emulation for it is nowhere near as good as GCN or Wii it's just that some consoles are weirder and more complicated than others, nothing to do with cartridges vs discs
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No current opinions on the stage selection but I was really hoping for some kind of dlc to add more endgame type stages to the game since it's pretty easy in its own. My ideal setup would be Death Egg, Crazy Gadget, and Eggmanland so you get something from each era with maybe a bonus boss if you own all three
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Kikas posted:Disc emulation will always be fucky due to the fact that you cannot really emulate a spinning physical drive. That's why you can have working NES and SNES emulators, but PS2 and GCN are a bit trickier. they actually introduced simulated disc spins on dolphin to fix a specific game Evil Eagle posted:1: Green Hill yeah i thought of launch base for a bit there but since i was angling for sky deck to be in thought it might have been a bit much, especially considering theres such great poo poo in 3. Pants Donkey posted:It was for a video to play the first zone of each Sonic game, so yeah he just did Sonic & co. instead of a more obnoxious team like Chaotix. oh yeah right i forgot about that small fact about the "playing the first stage of every sonic" video lol sharrrk posted:my generations 2 wish list hasnt changed since the last time i made it but: oh yeah if we're talking Generations 2 then we can go hog wild with stage suggestions, and hell, maybe take some good stuff from lost world, forces and MANIA loving 3D STUDIOPOLIS PLEASE
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Simsmagic posted:No current opinions on the stage selection but I was really hoping for some kind of dlc to add more endgame type stages to the game since it's pretty easy in its own. My ideal setup would be Death Egg, Crazy Gadget, and Eggmanland so you get something from each era with maybe a bonus boss if you own all three that sounds incredibly aces. crazy gadget was cool also while we're wishing for stuff, maybe some CD rep that isnt stardust speedway again or a side boss
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It’s not fair that cybershell gets to have 100% correct opinions in addition to being a loving snack
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Spiderdrake posted:Reading about older Sega franchises recently and they've been weird seemingly a long time. Like apparently PS3 is what it is because they cut the entire team while promoting this super revolutionary game. So apparently Phantasy Star 3 sucked so Sonic may live. (Well, sucked might be too strong a term, it's kind of my favorite of the three genesis titles, but people hate it) I feel like the big theme with Sega is that the 3 branches of Sega: America, Japan, & Europe were all so disparate and off on their own tangent that it resulted in a lot of inconsistencies. Just looking at how every Sega system was most popular in a different territory shows how all over the place they were. And the whole Sega CD/32X/Saturn fiasco just further cemented those problems. Nintendo of Japan gets a lot of crap for keeping NoA on such a tight leash, but I have to imagine watching Sega shoot themselves in the foot time and again throughout the late 90s/early 2000s is a big part of why they never gave their international branches more free reign outside of marketing.
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gently caress it, let's go wild for Generations 2: Mecha Green Hill Diamond Dust Studiopolis Hot Crater Evil Foundry Dead Line Bingo Highway Starlight Carnival Eggmanland Rival battles with Fang, Blaze and Knuckles (can do the Advance 1 metal fakeout if you like).
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imo they could do a fun Sonic Generations 2 with this lineup Sonic 1: Labyrinth Zone Sonic 2: Aquatic Ruins Sonic 3: Hydrocity Zone Sonic Adventure: Emerald Coast (as big the cat) Sonic Adventure 2: Aquatic Mine Sonic Heroes: Ocean Palace (the parts as Classic Sonic from Generations) Sonic the Hedgehog: Aquatic Base Sonic Unleashed: Jungle Joyride Sonic Colors: Aquarium Park
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Bridge Zone Wild Water Way Meta Junglira Zone Amazing Arena DarkCastle Area Coco Island Dynamite Plant Spring Valley Riot Train Samba De Amigo Course The Whistler Sliding Centre
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The new game should not be a compilation since the last two games did that. Give me original stages. Or, I dunno. Release a game or two between anniversaries.
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Yeah, they've done almost nothing since the last Generations game to warrant a new one in that style, especially seeing as they don't want to acknowledge Boom in any way.
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