Looking forward to Kurtzman et al seeing that Lower Decks is popular, and then learning all the wrong lessons about why.
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Drone posted:Looking forward to Kurtzman et al seeing that Lower Decks is popular, and then learning all the wrong lessons about why. Michael isn't manic enough Tilly isn't random enough Not enough swearing Evil looking Starfleet ships +++
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 14:45 |
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”More cubes!!”
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 15:23 |
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*taking notes* genetic... dog... monster...
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 15:35 |
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episode moodboard https://twitter.com/theotherwillis/status/1306629447982829569?s=21
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 15:43 |
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The transporter noise on the bridge was the best part of the gag.
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 16:50 |
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS Yes please!
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 16:52 |
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Thanks for the tag, esperterra!
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 17:14 |
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esperterra posted:If you would like to quote this post! After careful consideration, I think I would like to have this gang tag. Thank you very much and have a good weekend.
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 17:17 |
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It's extremely amusing scrolling this thread now, so many simultaneous animations
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 17:38 |
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Awful app needs to support gang tags in threads.
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 17:54 |
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 18:06 |
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So is it just me, or is Captain Freeman genuinely bad at being a captain? She directly causes the main conflict in "Temporal Edict" by implementing a new work schedule that runs the crew ragged, and I'd argue she dragged out the confrontation with the pirates in "Terminal Provocations" by continually trying to negotiate with them rather than shoot back, which they seemed to take as an admission of weakness. She's also been shown to be deeply insecure about her position and reputation as captain; the whole reason she introduced the new schedule in "Temporal Edict" was because she was pissed about having been bumped from the peace conference on Cardassia Prime, and there was also that touch of rivalry with Captain Durango in "Moist Vessel". Even her handling of Mariner in that episode raises questions; she comes up with circuitous plans to compel Mariner to transfer off the Cerritos instead of simply transferring Mariner off herself, something that would be wholly in her power as captain to do. Even in this episode she was making way more of her black-ops horticulture mission than Ramsey seemed to feel it was worth. At this point, I'm wondering if Freeman is someone who had always desperately wanted to be a captain, but was temperamentally better suited as a department head or maybe a first officer. Under normal circumstances her career would have stalled out in the middle ranks, but with the Dominion War and Starfleet's need to put more asses in center seats she got the Cerritos and was shunted off to do the sort of dull meat-and-potatoes missions that keep the Federation running that Starfleet assigns to all its newbie captains. However, while most newbies do a tour or two on a California or a Miranda or a Saber before moving on to bigger and better things, Freeman is stuck running the Cerritos, unsatisfied but not knowing why or what to do about it. (Figuring out ages in Trek, especially animated Trek, is a mug's game, but Freeman seems to be older than any other main series captain we've seen save Picard, and she still seems to be making rookie mistakes.) Mind you, if this is intentional, I think it's an interesting dynamic. Freeman isn't a very good captain, but the crew is competent and capable enough to compensate and keep the ship running, and it makes her relationship with Mariner more complicated. Does she want Mariner to succeed to uphold the family name, or is it a way to live through Mariner and forget about her own inadequacies? Marshal Radisic fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Oh yeah she's a not good captain because of her issues. I think it's clearly shown that she can be a good captain - look at the episode with the moon - but she's often very bad and just about every time it's because of her own neuroses. Like mother like daughter, I guess? I assume it's intentional that both of them are more alike than either would want to admit, they're both short-circuiting their own potential with their problems.
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 22:00 |
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Every trek series clearly tells the viewer that a fair number of captains and most admirals are terrible
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 22:17 |
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Lower Decks is at core an office comedy. The jokes come from characters being intermittently bad then good at their jobs.
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 22:22 |
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The humour comes from the fact that them being bad at being people interferes with them being good at being Starfleet officers.
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 22:51 |
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MikeJF posted:Oh yeah she's a not good captain because of her issues. I think it's clearly shown that she can be a good captain - look at the episode with the moon - but she's often very bad and just about every time it's because of her own neuroses. After watching "Moist Vessel" I found myself thinking that it honestly would be better for the both of them if Mariner was transferred off the ship, since they seem to have this whole unhealthy codependency. On the other hand, I don't think Mariner entirely understands how much latitude she's been granted by being under her mom's command. After that Jellico quip in last week's episode, I found myself thinking that if she ended up on the Cairo, she might last a week before Jellico hands her her discharge papers. The Bloop posted:Every trek series clearly tells the viewer that a fair number of captains and most admirals are terrible
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 23:22 |
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Marshal Radisic posted:After watching "Moist Vessel" I found myself thinking that it honestly would be better for the both of them if Mariner was transferred off the ship, since they seem to have this whole unhealthy codependency. On the other hand, I don't think Mariner entirely understands how much latitude she's been granted by being under her mom's command. After that Jellico quip in last week's episode, I found myself thinking that if she ended up on the Cairo, she might last a week before Jellico hands her her discharge papers. Well her backstory is that she's served on a bunch of ships, caused problems, got busted down and this assignment is her mum pulling strings to give her a last chance, but yeah, it's also incredibly unhealthy.
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 23:26 |
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS I'm down
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# ? Sep 19, 2020 23:33 |
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Crusader posted:episode moodboard The end of the episode was also basically the end of Encounter at Farpoint I'm amazed that this show hasn't turned out a dud yet
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 04:43 |
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS This looks like fun.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 04:45 |
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That was a good Lower Decks. Got like 8 good laughs outta me and was well written. More please!esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 04:54 |
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re: this week's Lower Decks, I feel like everybody's sleeping on what I thought was the best gag on the show yet: It's so nice they get the chance to relax.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 05:37 |
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I didn't even register the bikini. It just seemed like the design of the chair at the time. lmbo
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS I would definitely like to experience Bij! MikeJF posted:Well her backstory is that she's served on a bunch of ships, caused problems, got busted down and this assignment is her mum pulling strings to give her a last chance, but yeah, it's also incredibly unhealthy. In current-day militaries, are you allowed to be in the direct chain of command of your immediate family? Seems like that would be a bad idea all around. I seem to recall something like the US Navy no longer allows siblings to serve on the same ship at the same time. Does that apply to parents/children?
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 06:07 |
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Correnth posted:re: this week's Lower Decks, I feel like everybody's sleeping on what I thought was the best gag on the show yet: oh my god, I didn't even notice the middle one is a bikini. I only noticed the hawaiian shirts.
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Arrinien posted:I would definitely like to experience Bij! It seems like the kind of thing Starfleet shouldn’t even allow, given that one of the tests just to make Commander is based on your willingness to order someone you know to their death.
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS q'apla
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 09:24 |
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Arrinien posted:In current-day militaries, are you allowed to be in the direct chain of command of your immediate family? Seems like that would be a bad idea all around. I seem to recall something like the US Navy no longer allows siblings to serve on the same ship at the same time. Does that apply to parents/children? If memory serves, all the branches of the United States military have some variation of the "sole survivor" policy, but it only refers to protecting siblings (think Saving Private Ryan), not parent / children relationships.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 09:48 |
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The Bloop posted:I didn't even register the bikini. It just seemed like the design of the chair at the time. Oh god, that’s great.
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS Assuming I'm not too late for bij
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 11:28 |
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gna bij all over your face
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 11:45 |
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Arrinien posted:In current-day militaries, are you allowed to be in the direct chain of command of your immediate family? Are you really in the chain of command if you subvert any order you don't feel like following?
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 14:59 |
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS ooh! please!
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 18:33 |
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So I finally sat down to actually watch Lower Decks and Jesus it's pretty funny. I don't know why, but I just lost it at that last line of Mariner's from the pilot where she talks about Troi's jumpsuit before the Cerritos flies off screen. It's these little smart dumb moments that make the show pop for me, I think.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 22:57 |
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I love The Dog. This is becoming a genuinely great show.esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS Yes please!
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS I'm a petaQ lurker so I must travel the river of blood
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# ? Sep 21, 2020 00:21 |
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Correnth posted:re: this week's Lower Decks, I feel like everybody's sleeping on what I thought was the best gag on the show yet: I adore this show. CBS got a bunch of funny nerds who love all of Trek together and gave them a budget, and it turned out perfectly.
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https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/1308496291899604994
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