RazzleDazzleHour posted:

I cant believe anyone thinks combat in Genshin feels good. Like, I was excited about this game for real and I uninstalled it already.

victrix posted:

MODS

Relax Or DIE posted:

the thing is, Sekiro sucks, the terminus of the downward trend of neo-From from making cool, haunting, punishing rpgs into 60$ git gud memes

homeless snail posted:

how far did you get? combat didn't really click for me until I got a good handle on elemental reactions, and got used to constantly switching characters in the middle of combos

Stux posted:

incorrect, sekiro isnt a get good game, its a style game. its all about making your combat flow look sick nasty. it owns.

Relax Or DIE posted:

the thing is, Sekiro sucks, the terminus of the downward trend of neo-From from making cool, haunting, punishing rpgs into 60$ git gud memes

Barudak posted:

I might play Sekiro if it came to gamepass but otherwise, like, nah From Bloodborne and DS3 especially were not good Im not doing this again.

Relax Or DIE posted:

I mean yeah sound/visual wise it's very strong I just didn't find it that fun, I guess my brain needs the neon-excess of a DMC in style games

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

I had gotten access to the dungeons and finished the first one after doing some exploring. Mostly I hated how movement felt really floaty and there was no dodge button (R1 doesn't count)

hatty posted:

Sekiro is the second best FROM game

Stux posted:

i didnt find sekiro fun for quite a few hours, in fact i thought it sucked. then i realised i was trying to play it like a souls game and from werent making a souls game with it and it suddenly clicked and became intensely satisfying.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Sekiro rules and is way less "difficult" than the Dark Souls series because the challenge is exactly what is presented to you and doesn't obfuscate what you need to be doing behind four million things the game never tells you and you have to go to gamefaqs to find out. I shouldn't need to read a strategy guide to understand poise, or to know that stat scaling basically stops after a certain investment point, or what the actual loving multipliers are on weapons don't just tell me it has Rank C dexterity what the gently caress does that MEAN? Use Left Trigger to riposte, except against all the enemies you can't riposte. Here's a million different kinds of armor, don't wear any of it because you don't want to get too heavy, unless it's REALLY heavy, in which case wear it because it's great. Don't equip shields because guarding is a trap.

Once you know Dark Soul's weird metagame poo poo, the entire series becomes significantly easier, even completely disregarding your own individual play. Sekiro you have to actually play the game good in order to win.

also what the hell I decided to give Genshin Impact a second shot but this time it's gonna take 8 hours to download. It took like 30 minutes when I preloaded it last week

hatty posted:

Sekiro is the second best FROM game

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Sekiro rules and is way less "difficult" than the Dark Souls series because the challenge is exactly what is presented to you and doesn't obfuscate what you need to be doing behind four million things the game never tells you and you have to go to gamefaqs to find out. I shouldn't need to read a strategy guide to understand poise, or to know that stat scaling basically stops after a certain investment point, or what the actual loving multipliers are on weapons don't just tell me it has Rank C dexterity what the gently caress does that MEAN?

The 7th Guest posted:

there is so much going on in this photograph of boogie holding a gun at a streamer

Zaphod42 posted:

You can figure out ALL of these things if you're observant and just play around with the game and pay attention to every aspect of the UI. Nothing in souls is obfuscated, most gamers just are so trained by other games that they don't even try to think of things or look for hints.

cheetah7071 posted:

Genshin does the dumb gacha thing where the primary way you level people up isn't by using them, but by feeding them items, so like there's no reason to engage with the systems at all you can just feed all your items to a single character and roll everything except the random overleveled bosses dotting the landscape, and even if you do spread xp around it feels super awkward to ditch somebody who you fed permanent resources to, even if you'll get more later

It's sort of astonishing how many gachas have that leveling system and it's trash every single time

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

This is patently untrue and I'm sick of hearing people regurgitate this. Trust me, I loving looked. Telling me that if I wanted to know the damage scaling range of a parameter bonus for an individual weapon that I would have needed to take damage samples before and after leveling a stat up to see with the differences were is, I'm gonna say, pretty goddamn obfuscated. Hell, how would I have even known the parameter bonuses were multiplicative? Could have been additive. I would have needed to take enough samples across multiple levels to realize that my damage wasn't going up in strictly linear intervals and ALSO hoped that in no time during my calculations did my stat cross from 9 to 10 or from 10 to 20 because those are the thresholds for new stat calculations which would have thrown everything off. All of that is also dismissing the fact that parameter bonuses exist within ranged for different weapons. Dark Souls also does the Monster Hunter damage calculation everyone hates where they don't flatten damage numbers across weapons so it makes it very difficult to compare them when you take attack speed into consideration. A Bastard Sword and an Uchigatana both have very similar attack damage but deal way different damage per hit, so you would have to calculate EVERY weapon category separately.


Seriously, can you tell me in the game where I could have found these charts? Because these charts were exactly what I was looking for when I was trying to calculate if it would be worth it to spend points in Strength or not when I was already using the silver straight sword

https://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Weapon+Scalingweapons

cheetah7071 posted:

Maybe it's just brainworms but I'd much much rather the game automatically distributed the xp from those items across your party whenever you open a chest, rather than putting them in your inventory and making you decide what to do with them. I really really dislike the system and I dislike how common it is

MMF Freeway posted:

Not agreeing with Zaphod because DS certainly obscures many things, but that sort of nitty gritty back end formula stuff isn't really the sort of thing I think of. Sekiro's attack power formula is also obscured in that way and is probably more complicated than an average player may think but it doesn't really matter because anyone can intuit that more attack power = more better. Similarly you might not know the exact formula for stat scaling or how it works in DS but I think its reasonable to say that a C is meh and an A is pretty good and that's enough for people to make an educated decision about their stats.

cheetah7071 posted:

The worst trick the game plays on you in dark souls is letting you level a stat past 40

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

C is meh and A is good but if my exact build has 30 dex and 14 strength, is a C-scaling on a katana going to be more or less damage than if I were to invest two more STR so I can use a silver straight sword, considering it has higher base damage, only C scaling on Dex but also E-STR?

These are the things that I wanted to know when playing the game

cheetah7071 posted:

how comfortable you are with their movesets matters far more than 5% dps or whatever. That isn't really the kind of game dark souls is.

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Sekiro rules and is way less "difficult" than the Dark Souls series because the challenge is exactly what is presented to you and doesn't obfuscate what you need to be doing behind four million things the game never tells you and you have to go to gamefaqs to find out. I shouldn't need to read a strategy guide to understand poise, or to know that stat scaling basically stops after a certain investment point, or what the actual loving multipliers are on weapons don't just tell me it has Rank C dexterity what the gently caress does that MEAN? Use Left Trigger to riposte, except against all the enemies you can't riposte. Here's a million different kinds of armor, don't wear any of it because you don't want to get too heavy, unless it's REALLY heavy, in which case wear it because it's great. Don't equip shields because guarding is a trap.

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This is patently untrue and I'm sick of hearing people regurgitate this. Trust me, I loving looked. Telling me that if I wanted to know the damage scaling range of a parameter bonus for an individual weapon that I would have needed to take damage samples before and after leveling a stat up to see with the differences were is, I'm gonna say, pretty goddamn obfuscated. Hell, how would I have even known the parameter bonuses were multiplicative? Could have been additive. I would have needed to take enough samples across multiple levels to realize that my damage wasn't going up in strictly linear intervals and ALSO hoped that in no time during my calculations did my stat cross from 9 to 10 or from 10 to 20 because those are the thresholds for new stat calculations which would have thrown everything off. All of that is also dismissing the fact that parameter bonuses exist within ranged for different weapons. Dark Souls also does the Monster Hunter damage calculation everyone hates where they don't flatten damage numbers across weapons so it makes it very difficult to compare them when you take attack speed into consideration. A Bastard Sword and an Uchigatana both have very similar attack damage but deal way different damage per hit, so you would have to calculate EVERY weapon category separately.

cheetah7071 posted:

That's a valid way to play these games. It isn't a loot treadmill, use what feels comfy. Hell in DS2 my picks for the best weapons in the game are bought from the first vendor and are completely generic