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X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

The images I've seen of his Star Wars are terrible but I've enjoyed his art a lot on the Doom series.

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Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Larocca is another guy who has talent but goes lazy.

I still think X-Treme X-Men was his best work, and that was a long time ago. Ever since it's just been tracing stuff.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

he really stunk on Cable & X-Force

Happy Hippo
Aug 8, 2004

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > BSS Derailed Thread: Spider-Island

I thought he was awesome on Iron Man until y'all ruined everything by pointing out his tracing

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


Codependent Poster posted:

Larocca is another guy who has talent but goes lazy.

I still think X-Treme X-Men was his best work, and that was a long time ago. Ever since it's just been tracing stuff.

X-Treme X-Men is so good. I kind of miss uninked comic book art like that.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

JordanKai posted:

X-Treme X-Men is so good. I kind of miss uninked comic book art like that.

Yeah, I loved that style. Just coloring over the pencils. Probably why it looked so good, since he couldn't be lazy on that work.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Y'know what? I feel like we can give Cocaine Bear a pass.

Part of why tracing is so annoying, on top of the general skeeviness, is how jarring it is to suddenly see actors or models or whatever making the most jarring poses or expressions that don't fit with the tone of the panel. To say nothing of Land's ridiculous porn face.

But bear is just...bear. It's a bear. There it is. For me at least I don't feel like I got taken out of the moment or distracted by bear looking like it shouldn't be doing what it's doing.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

BrianWilly posted:

Y'know what? I feel like we can give Cocaine Bear a pass.

Part of why tracing is so annoying, on top of the general skeeviness, is how jarring it is to suddenly see actors or models or whatever making the most jarring poses or expressions that don't fit with the tone of the panel. To say nothing of Land's ridiculous porn face.

But bear is just...bear. It's a bear. There it is. For me at least I don't feel like I got taken out of the moment or distracted by bear looking like it shouldn't be doing what it's doing.

If it weren't for his long history of doing it with real people, it would almost seem like an inside joke or easter egg.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


site posted:

read his star wars issues. oof

Don't do this, it'll make you sad.

Tensokuu
May 21, 2010

Somehow, the boy just isn't very buoyant.
So I just started reading the new Doctor Doom run and uh, why is his face all jacked up again? I mean the last time I read Doom was during the Infamous Iron Man run and his face was normal there. I guess it has been two-almost-three years since then but jeez.

rantmo
Jul 30, 2003

A smile better suits a hero



His face was re-scarred by... someone and for, um, reasons at the end of Infamous Iron Man. The Hood maybe? I don't remember but it was incredibly loving shoe-horned in as a way to reset the status quo. A garbage, loving garbage ending to a good series.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



rantmo posted:

His face was re-scarred by... someone and for, um, reasons at the end of Infamous Iron Man. The Hood maybe? I don't remember but it was incredibly loving shoe-horned in as a way to reset the status quo. A garbage, loving garbage ending to a good series.

He was rescarred by his greatest nemesis: editorial mandate.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



rantmo posted:

His face was re-scarred by... someone and for, um, reasons at the end of Infamous Iron Man. The Hood maybe? I don't remember but it was incredibly loving shoe-horned in as a way to reset the status quo. A garbage, loving garbage ending to a good series.

Dan Slott just took a huge poo poo on the character in his first story in FF too. RIP interesting characterization

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
After the wet fart that was his X-Men I thought Bendis was doing great stuff with Iron Man and Doom. Kinda wish he'd stuck around for more.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
His Iron Man was pretty great. I liked how it started but the end was a little bit of a rushed mess.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Dan Slott just took a huge poo poo on the character in his first story in FF too. RIP interesting characterization

he's been great in his book

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

rantmo posted:

His face was re-scarred by... someone and for, um, reasons at the end of Infamous Iron Man. The Hood maybe? I don't remember but it was incredibly loving shoe-horned in as a way to reset the status quo. A garbage, loving garbage ending to a good series.

I just looked it up and it's the Hood being possessed by a demon, hulking out and grabbing Doom's face and frying it. And they don't even name the loving demon or show how Doom survives it or how he kills the demon or anything, he just shows up back in Latveria with his face hosed up. And even then it doesn't give any reason for why he decided to revert to his old personality instead of keep being a hero besides "well I mean Tony's back now, we don't need two Iron Men". Man that story was so lazy, truly a great (read: awful) example of back-to-status-quo writing.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Sep 29, 2020

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Replacing Tony with Victor and Riri was so much fun, and they just kind of squandered it in the long run.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Yeah, really liked Doom Man and finding out they just burnt it all up was a bummer.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
doom will always go back to the old status quo because classic doom is just too good to give up for long. but hey, while none of his many face turns stuck, neither did his magic human leather armor.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


Doom, Conan, and Dr. Strange went on a magical adventure recently, and it was everything I never knew I wanted.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



They should just bring in an alternate universe evil Doom and let 616 Doom have some growth.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



This week's Fantastic Four is an Iceman story and I am extremely here for it.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I didn't love how Fraction had Doom get quatra-owned in his Future Foundation run, but it woulda been nice if they stuck to the judgement the living tribunal had laid down where only his evil actions could scar his face. I guess that probably got superseded once the tribunal died and then infinity wars happened.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Based on how little X-Factor is in the new issue, my subscribers who don't want all the parts of X of Swords are going to be pissed. I have a lot of guys on the fence about the whole thing and this will certainly push them one way or the other. Pretty good as someone who loves the X-Men but if you are not a rabid Xman guy like me you pretty much have to stop reading all the series.

No reason this isn't just a 24 issue event book. Now people who only read one or two X-titles might drop their books permanently.

Metalshark
Feb 4, 2013

The seagull is essential.
Shang-Chi #1 absolutely delivers. Great first issue, and I enjoyed the discussion about dialects/language.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
I don't really give hoots about Moon Knight but is this...like, is anyone actually enjoying this Avengers arc? It feels like the most generic sort of hero-turns-villain tripe that there can be. "No one else understands me! I'm the only one who knows what it takes to protect us!" Blah blah greater stakes, yada yada big huge evil whatever, yes I understand the character is mentally ill, thank you Jason Aaron. Thank you for this riveting narration.

That said, the adventures of Tony and Carol plus Starbrand baby has been surprisingly fun.

KaosMachina
Oct 9, 2012

There's nothing special about me.

BrianWilly posted:

I don't really give hoots about Moon Knight but is this...like, is anyone actually enjoying this Avengers arc? It feels like the most generic sort of hero-turns-villain tripe that there can be. "No one else understands me! I'm the only one who knows what it takes to protect us!" Blah blah greater stakes, yada yada big huge evil whatever, yes I understand the character is mentally ill, thank you Jason Aaron. Thank you for this riveting narration.

That said, the adventures of Tony and Carol plus Starbrand baby has been surprisingly fun.

honestly the Jason Aaron run has been, at some level, a big "Shove all the toys together! Also they're bigger and more powerful and the stakes are EVEN GRANDER and-" kind of story for a bit now.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

KaosMachina posted:

honestly the Jason Aaron run has been, at some level, a big "Shove all the toys together! Also they're bigger and more powerful and the stakes are EVEN GRANDER and-" kind of story for a bit now.

Yeah, I cracked up at "now Moon Knight has the Phoenix Force" because of course he does.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Well the Immortal Hulk one-shot by Lemire was good. Marvel's been making pretty good calls on what other writers to let handle him.

Baron Von Ghoulosh
Dec 16, 2005

There was a time when I fed from golden chalices,
but now...

Now, I feed as
an old man pees.

Yvonmukluk posted:

Well the Immortal Hulk one-shot by Lemire was good. Marvel's been making pretty good calls on what other writers to let handle him.

Agreed. I enjoyed this too. Well written and I loved the art direction. What else has Mike del Mundo done?

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

BrianWilly posted:

I don't really give hoots about Moon Knight but is this...like, is anyone actually enjoying this Avengers arc? It feels like the most generic sort of hero-turns-villain tripe that there can be. "No one else understands me! I'm the only one who knows what it takes to protect us!" Blah blah greater stakes, yada yada big huge evil whatever, yes I understand the character is mentally ill, thank you Jason Aaron. Thank you for this riveting narration.

That said, the adventures of Tony and Carol plus Starbrand baby has been surprisingly fun.

I like it, but then again I'm a total mark for basically anything Moon Knight. I think the only real problem I have is Khonshu manifesting physically and having a bunch of followers besides MK. Like the Lemire run ended with him trying to take over Marc's body and getting stopped but now I guess he never needed that and could just pop out whenever?

KaosMachina posted:

honestly the Jason Aaron run has been, at some level, a big "Shove all the toys together! Also they're bigger and more powerful and the stakes are EVEN GRANDER and-" kind of story for a bit now.

I expect nothing less from the man who wrote King Phoenix Thor vs. Sorceror Supreme Iron Fist Ghost Rider Starbrand Doctor Doom.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:

Agreed. I enjoyed this too. Well written and I loved the art direction. What else has Mike del Mundo done?

Check out the WeirdWorld series that came out a few years ago, his art is even better in there.

edit: Yeah, I love Moon Knight and this Avengers run is really not doing it for me.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
iirc he did a run on avengers??? recently as well

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
Mike del Mundo hasn't done a ton of interior artwork, his main runs are most of the 2014 Elektra series, the two Weirdworld runs (one part of Secret Wars, the other right afterwards), issues 1-6 and 9-11 of Mark Waid's 2016 Avengers run (after All-New All-Different Avengers, before the current Jason Aaron run), and the first four issues of Jason Aaron's last "Thor" series.

I first noticed him when he was doing covers for the X-Men Legacy (Legion) run, he is in fact pretty great.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Edge & Christian posted:

Mike del Mundo hasn't done a ton of interior artwork, his main runs are most of the 2014 Elektra series, the two Weirdworld runs (one part of Secret Wars, the other right afterwards), issues 1-6 and 9-11 of Mark Waid's 2016 Avengers run (after All-New All-Different Avengers, before the current Jason Aaron run), and the first four issues of Jason Aaron's last "Thor" series.

I first noticed him when he was doing covers for the X-Men Legacy (Legion) run, he is in fact pretty great.

Oh poo poo, yeah, those covers were amazing.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Those Elektra issues were gorgeous.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
i need to go back and reread this

radlum
May 13, 2013
I liked Weirdworld; it's a shame that it was cancelled just as it was getting pretty good. Post SW Marvel had some interesting stuff.

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Baron Von Ghoulosh
Dec 16, 2005

There was a time when I fed from golden chalices,
but now...

Now, I feed as
an old man pees.


Maybe the BEST artistic representation of the Banner to Hulk transformation. Bravo!

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