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https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1311750476807970816?s=20 if this is true, Armenians are getting cocky https://twitter.com/AnnaGri07523396/status/1311744848068833288?s=20 gotta love the caucuses, where every valley has its own language https://twitter.com/ekimalptekin/status/1311687709803585536?s=20 Ataturk respected all flags.
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Is it against the rules to say I wish this fat gently caress gets covid?
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I was doing some research on Azerbaijans suicide drone force and I was surprised to discover that their tiny drones (Orbiter Minis with a 2 kg warhead) cost about $400,000 apiece and the big ones (IAI Harpies/Harops) cost something like ten million dollars each. For reference, a T-72 tank costs something like $1 or $2 million apiece. It's unlikely that Azerbaijan has more than a few dozen on hand and it seems like a lot of them are being spent on blowing up supply trucks, reserve rifle squads and Soviet surplus howitzers. They make for impressive videos but my sense is that their battlefield impact is limited and that the Azeris are probably going to run out of them sooner rather than later
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sum posted:I was doing some research on Azerbaijans suicide drone force and I was surprised to discover that their tiny drones (Orbiter Minis with a 2 kg warhead) cost about $400,000 apiece and the big ones (IAI Harpies/Harops) cost something like ten million dollars each. For reference, a T-72 tank costs something like $1 or $2 million apiece. It's unlikely that Azerbaijan has more than a few dozen on hand and it seems like a lot of them are being spent on blowing up supply trucks, reserve rifle squads and Soviet surplus howitzers. They make for impressive videos but my sense is that their battlefield impact is limited and that the Azeris are probably going to run out of them sooner rather than later confused why they don't just buy commercial drones and strap bombs to them
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sum posted:I was doing some research on Azerbaijans suicide drone force and I was surprised to discover that their tiny drones (Orbiter Minis with a 2 kg warhead) cost about $400,000 apiece and the big ones (IAI Harpies/Harops) cost something like ten million dollars each. For reference, a T-72 tank costs something like $1 or $2 million apiece. It's unlikely that Azerbaijan has more than a few dozen on hand and it seems like a lot of them are being spent on blowing up supply trucks, reserve rifle squads and Soviet surplus howitzers. They make for impressive videos but my sense is that their battlefield impact is limited and that the Azeris are probably going to run out of them sooner rather than later its a marketing opportunity, Aeronautics, Limited previously bombed Armenia before as part of a sales demo quote:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23270/israeli-company-allegedly-flew-a-suicide-drone-on-a-real-combat-mission-in-azerbaijan
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this is old but still belongs in this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKA9xJx-NKg
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Trabisnikof posted:its a marketing opportunity, Aeronautics, Limited previously bombed Armenia before as part of a sales demo Israelis only start to show a conscience when their victims arent filthy arab untermenchen. I wonder how many of those employees gave a poo poo when they bombed palestinians.
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Impkins Patootie posted:sounds like a scramjet I was thinking Stukas
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Putin is just waiting for Azerbaijan to gently caress up and bomb a school bus or something with one of their drones. The temporary shift in world opinion will give him an opening to openly declare support for Armenia, upon which they will immediately bombard the Azeri airbases, including any Turkish planes. Turkey might do a nominal response but in the end Russia will just broker a ceasefire with favorable terms for Armenia.
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France hasn't been in NATO since 1966
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/ekimalptekin/status/1311687709803585536?s=20 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_fire_of_Smyrna
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Spergin Morlock posted:France hasn't been in NATO since 1966 France rejoined in 2009. Thanks Obama.
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animist posted:confused why they don't just buy commercial drones and strap bombs to them The Harop has a 1000 km range, uses stealth technology, and is capable of automatically homing in on radar sources (like SAM installations). It's not like it's just a fancy quadcopter with a grenade duct taped to it. Azerbaijan is just apparently choosing to blow a lot of them on low value targets.
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Atrocious Joe posted:France rejoined in 2009. Thanks Obama. I did not realize that...
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So what's the likely strategy for Azerbaijan and Turkey? To completely reconquer all territory within the official borders of Azerbaijan?
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/AnnaGri07523396/status/1311744848068833288?s=20 I suppose it is literally true that the government of the Artsakh republic has never disrespected the rights of any minorities on the Karabakh plateau, so they aren't being hypocrites I guess.
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Atrocious Joe posted:France rejoined in 2009. Thanks Obama. Just in time to push everyone into Libya
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:ehh... not as good as turbo folk https://twitter.com/armenia/status/1311967519289286661?s=19 Armenia will not allow a music video gap! https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1311723596411211777?s=19 I read that this account has some connections to the Turkish General Staff and if this is remotely true then some truly delusional thinking is happening in the upper Turks circles.
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https://twitter.com/anadoluagency/status/1312012486820888577?s=20 This doesn't seem great
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/anadoluagency/status/1312012486820888577?s=20 "us repeatedly sticking our dick into various hornets' nests show attempts to sting our penis" says man furiously thrusting his dingus into a beehive
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Seems like Erdogan has a case of Overly Ambitious Second Rate Power Syndrome. If history is any guide I believe this will lead to nothing but good things for Turkey
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The sausage has been secured https://twitter.com/emil_sanamyan/status/1312092565055909888?s=20
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1311723596411211777?s=19 Wait, has Turkey been active in Ukraine at all? And does this mean they want to start backing Georgia against Abkhazia and South Ossetia lol
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Boredumb posted:The sausage has been secured gg no re
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Maximo Roboto posted:Wait, has Turkey been active in Ukraine at all? And does this mean they want to start backing Georgia against Abkhazia and South Ossetia lol I saw that text and that seems like an attempt to conjure a cause for war. it is literally cut and paste from HOI4, where a world leader conjuring up a war will performatively question the sovereignty of the enemy, the next thing Erdogan needs to do is promise to liberate the oppressed Azeris. I can’t remember what other thing is written into the game but it is IRL usually nearly word for word what happens every time a country gets bellicose.
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Azeri MoD is releasing videos of TB-2 drones inflicting mass casualties against Armenian forces. They have air superiority. I wonder how many of those drones they have.
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Vasukhani posted:Azeri MoD is releasing videos of TB-2 drones inflicting mass casualties against Armenian forces. They have air superiority. I wonder how many of those drones they have. hopefully Armenia can counter that threat, if they can’t it could embolden the Turks and Azeris instead of getting them to the peace table.
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Torpor posted:hopefully Armenia can counter that threat, if they can’t it could embolden the Turks and Azeris instead of getting them to the peace table. post av combo
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I’m not sure how Armenia is supposed to move any anti-air or fighter planes into Nagorno-Karabakh since they have to go across Azerbaijan to get there. And without any of that the armenian forces are gonna get whittled down by air strikes. Not good imho
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Boredumb posted:The sausage has been secured That's it, war's over, everyone go home. Armenia wins.
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It's over, Azerbaijan. Armenia has the smoked sausage
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Syncopated posted:I’m not sure how Armenia is supposed to move any anti-air or fighter planes into Nagorno-Karabakh since they have to go across Azerbaijan to get there. And without any of that the armenian forces are gonna get whittled down by air strikes. Not good imho Those sections of Azerbaijan were occupied and ethnically cleansed in the 90's, a major part of the backstory of this conflict. So they can move stuff pretty easy, terrain and lovely infrastructure aside. I feel like there should be a primer or effort post somewhere explaining the difference between Nagorno Karabakh the Soviet Oblast, Karabakh/Artsakh the geographical/cultural region, and Artsakh the modern political entity. Maybe also detail past peace efforts and the various diplomatic factors at play. I feel like people are interpreting pretty much everything through the one or two things they know about the history of the region sometimes.
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This is a not bad map to show the current "borders" if thats what you want to call them. Nothing about the demographics though of course:
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Boredumb posted:The sausage has been secured Don't eat it! It could be poisoned! Maximo Roboto posted:Wait, has Turkey been active in Ukraine at all? And does this mean they want to start backing Georgia against Abkhazia and South Ossetia lol
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Boredumb posted:This is a not bad map to show the current "borders" if thats what you want to call them. Nothing about the demographics though of course: Yeah alot of those cities have populations of 0.   It does make me wonder about all those travelogues who visit and are like "oh this place is so wonderful why won't the world just recognize them  ". The vast majority of it is a horrifying wasteland of crumbling dead cities. Outside of Stepanakert and a spackling of tiny villages around it its a loving Fallout game. Its the creepiest loving place on earth.
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twoday posted:Macron recognizes that the US has little leverage here and is all over this, as part of his plan to re-establish France as a relevant geopolitical force The US doesn’t want leverage over this, this is all it’s rivals and enemies and busybodies keeping themselves busy and so on. This war is a big gift to American hegemony.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Those sections of Azerbaijan were occupied and ethnically cleansed in the 90's, a major part of the backstory of this conflict. So they can move stuff pretty easy, terrain and lovely infrastructure aside. I feel like there should be a primer or effort post somewhere explaining the difference between Nagorno Karabakh the Soviet Oblast, Karabakh/Artsakh the geographical/cultural region, and Artsakh the modern political entity. Maybe also detail past peace efforts and the various diplomatic factors at play. neither side has squeaky clean hands in this situation and there seems like a lot of room to negotiate an equitable solution, which is precisely why this conflict is upsetting. calls for peace don’t seem to be going anywhere whereas calls for escalation are really going places, it sounds like Putin cant even get Aliyev on the phone but Erdogan seems to want to do an Anschluss or something. the best the US can do is to try to diplomatically cure war priapism but I don’t think the US has the diplomatic chops to do that right now.
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