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Genderfluent
Jul 15, 2015

My doctor also gives me more medication whenever I'm turning the corner in my illness. This looks promising imo

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Remy Marathe
Mar 15, 2007

_________===D ~ ~ _\____/

InsertPotPun posted:

why do so many of the people around him just take his word for everything to the point where they also contracted the deadly disease?
every single person who caught this took trump's word over medical doctors that work in and around the white house.
for months.

I suspect for every one of these, there have been many more more not wearing them because of social pressure to conform in the Trump nightmare factory work environment.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Remy Marathe posted:

I suspect for every one of these, there have been many more more not wearing them because of social pressure to conform in the Trump nightmare factory work environment.

This was Hope Hicks. From what has been said, this was really common. No one gives a poo poo about the cooks, house keepers, etc. around the white house, but I bet more than a few of them have been killed by this, and those are people that are actually worth caring about.

Eleanor Pwnsevelt
Dec 25, 2003

TheAardvark posted:

Keep in mind trump has probably been positive for a week at this point but did not actually get tested until he had undeniable symptoms

Given that he's such a queen about wearing a mask it wouldn't surprise me if he's been just as hostile to getting tested regularly especially if it's the kind of test that is uncomfortable or whatever

Underwhelmed
Mar 7, 2004


Nap Ghost

quote:

The monthly Democracy Institute Sunday Express poll for the Presidential election shows that Mr Trump is still on course for victory with 46 percent of the popular support compared to his Democrat rival Joe Biden’s 45 percent.

However, his overall lead has dropped by two points since the last poll in September.

The poll was completed after the news broke that President Trump and his wife Melania have been infected by Covid-19.

But 68 percent said the illness would not affect their vote while 19 percent said they were “more likely” to support Trump and only 13 percent “less likely”.
Almost two thirds said they felt sympathy and concern for the President while 38 percent said him getting the disease was “karma” in an indication of the current divisive nature of US politics.
Crucially, Mr Trump’s lead in key swing states including Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin remains at 4 percent by 47 percent 43 percent.

This gives a projected Electoral College split of 320 to Trump and 218 to Biden.

While other polls have Biden ahead, the Democracy Institute, which correctly predicted Brexit and Trump’s win in 2016, only considers people who identify as “likely voters” rather than all registered voters and also asks about the so called shy vote.

This shows that 77 percent of Trump supporters would not admit it to friends or family members.
Other controversies appear to have had little impact on the election with around 8 in 10 voters saying that the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court has changed their position, although Trump got more favourable support 12 percent, than unfavourable 9 percent.

After a first bad tempered debate in the election, 32 percent said Trump won and 18 percent Biden but half thought it was a draw and more than 7 in 10 said it made no difference to how they would vote.
Law and order remains the top issue in the election after riots linked to the black lives matter protests with 32 percent identifying it as their number one concern.

However, the economy is closing the gap with 30 percent putting it top as the effects of coronavirus continue to bite.

Trump outscores Biden on the economy with 70 percent thinking that the economy is bouncing back and 60 percent to 40 percent trusting the President over his rival on the issue.

Meanwhile, the poll reveals that former Mr Biden has a “reality problem” with twice as many people giving credit to reality TV star Kim Kardasian for prison reform than the former Vice President.

Asked who has had a more positive impact on criminal justice 41 percent say Trump, the same number say Kim Kardasian and just 18 percent say Biden.

Democracy Institute director Patrick Basham said: “When a reality TV star beats you in a poll on an important policy question, you know your campaign has a problem.

“We find twice as many voters give Kim Kardashian credit for advancing the cause of criminal justice reform – an especially important issue among Black voters – than rate Biden’s contribution.

“Trump and Biden’s respective standings on this specific issue epitomise Biden’s overarching Achilles’ Heel in this election: comparatively low support and enthusiasm for his candidacy among Black voters. To beat Trump, Biden needs nine in 10 Black votes, and lots of Black voters to cast ballots. Currently, he’s positioned to win only eight in ten, with two out of ten Black voters ready to support Trump, and overall Black turnout looking to be flat, at best.”

Poll results
National Popular Vote

Trump (Republican) = 46%

Biden (Democrat) = 45%

Jorgensen (Libertarian) = 3%

Hawkins (Green) = 1%

Undecided = 5%

White voters: Trump = 52% Biden = 45%

Black: Trump 18% Biden = 78%

Hispanic: Trump 40% Biden = 50%


Battleground States – Popular Vote
Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin

Trump (Republican) = 47%

Biden (Democrat) = 43%

Jorgensen (Libertarian) = 4%

Hawkins (Green) = 1%

Undecided = 5%


Florida – Popular Vote

Trump (Republican) = 48%

Biden (Democrat) = 44%

Jorgensen (Libertarian) = 2%

Hawkins (Green) = 1%

Undecided = 5%


Minnesota – Popular Vote

Trump (Republican) = 46%

Biden (Democrat) = 44%

Jorgensen (Libertarian) = 2%

Hawkins (Green) = 2%

Undecided = 6%


New Hampshire – Popular Vote

Trump (Republican) = 45%

Biden (Democrat) = 43%

Jorgensen (Libertarian) = 5%

Hawkins (Green) = 2%

Undecided = 5%

Electoral College Vote Projection (if election voting mirrored these poll results)
270 needed to win

Trump = 320 [picks-up Minnesota, New Hampshire & a single Maine electoral vote]

Biden = 218


LOL They spent more time and energy explaining why their results are so far off of literally every other poll than they spent conducting the actual poll.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

"We find twice as many voters give Kim Kardashian credit for advancing the cause of criminal justice reform – an especially important issue among Black voters – than rate Biden’s contribution. "

hahahaha what??????????????????????

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Eleanor Pwnsevelt posted:

Given that he's such a queen about wearing a mask it wouldn't surprise me if he's been just as hostile to getting tested regularly especially if it's the kind of test that is uncomfortable or whatever

What other possible reason is there to not disclose when his last negative test was? He hasn't been getting tested at all or maybe rarely at Doctor insistence. He was 100% positive at the debate.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Eleanor Pwnsevelt posted:

Given that he's such a queen about wearing a mask it wouldn't surprise me if he's been just as hostile to getting tested regularly especially if it's the kind of test that is uncomfortable or whatever

Especially since he needs at least 6 nasal swabs before the test just to clear all the crushed Adderall out of his sinuses.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Eleanor Pwnsevelt posted:

Given that he's such a queen about wearing a mask it wouldn't surprise me if he's been just as hostile to getting tested regularly especially if it's the kind of test that is uncomfortable or whatever

Apparently the tests aren't even really that uncomfortable anymore? It's news to me but someone mentioned earlier that it's just a regular nose swab and not like a foot long stick they have to jam into your brain anymore. Still though, you're probably right. He probably just did the whole "I feel fine I don't need to get tested" thing that every dumb person who ignores precautions does.

Mr Havafap
Mar 27, 2005

The wurst kind of sausage

bird with big dick posted:

You gotta show a scan of a positive Covid or antibody test though because there’s about a million people that had the regular flu in February or March and they’re all convinced it was the roni.

You gotta work on your reading comprehension, I never said when I had it (which was in June). I also detailed how this was different from a regular flu, and I didn't mention the antibody test result (yes, I took the test) because I did not expect to be called out on the veracity of my condition, what the gently caress is wrong with you?
I've finally made an appointment to check my lungs because something is different and it's not for the better, I was hoping it'd go away but it hasn't, thank you for your concern.

wuffles
Apr 10, 2004

When I was a kid and stayed home sick from school, I’d spend the whole day wrapped in a blanket playing Super Nintendo—unless I felt so terrible I needed to sleep it off. It was great. All other responsibilities were on hold and I was supposed to be resting and not doing much.

Where are the tweets fat man? You’re supposed to be resting on doctors’ orders and I know you have your phone and a TV with Fox News. Everyone is talking about you; where are the tweets? This is the ideal time for you to be sitting on your rear end doing nothing but live tweeting at the TV.

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
Checking in on Ben Garrison...

https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1312028265758953472
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1312070756931530752
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1312093078975442944
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1312139581689528320
https://twitter.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1312401457996472322
lol

Deus Ex Macklemore
Jul 2, 2004


Zelensky's Zealots

wuffles posted:

When I was a kid and stayed home sick from school, I’d spend the whole day wrapped in a blanket playing Super Nintendo—unless I felt so terrible I needed to sleep it off. It was great. All other responsibilities were on hold and I was supposed to be resting and not doing much.

Where are the tweets fat man? You’re supposed to be resting on doctors’ orders and I know you have your phone and a TV with Fox News. Everyone is talking about you; where are the tweets? This is the ideal time for you to be sitting on your rear end doing nothing but live tweeting at the TV.

Sir, this is a Dead Gay Forums drive through

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Garrison has definitely wanked it to self-made Trump porn on several occasions.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go

explosivo posted:

Apparently the tests aren't even really that uncomfortable anymore? It's news to me but someone mentioned earlier that it's just a regular nose swab and not like a foot long stick they have to jam into your brain anymore. Still though, you're probably right. He probably just did the whole "I feel fine I don't need to get tested" thing that every dumb person who ignores precautions does.

I don't know about the US and suppose it might be different in different countries depending on the test, but they're still very unpleasant, feel like they're trying to tickle your brain stem level uncomfortable

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
The fact that we've had hardly any tweets from the President and only a couple of obviously staged and canned photos in 48 hours leads me to believe he is very nearly dead.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan


Yeah Biden was definitely exhibiting all of the symptoms of someone freebasing caffeine

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

Big lol at those Garrison politoons

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1312793293588246530
lol this is totally correct

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Enfys posted:

I don't know about the US and suppose it might be different in different countries depending on the test, but they're still very unpleasant, feel like they're trying to tickle your brain stem level uncomfortable in my country

Over here, a gargling test is in wide use that doesn't involve nasal swabs at all.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

laserghost posted:

Big lol at those Garrison politoons

He literally has biden getting a shot of Meth, which is ironic since that's what trump does:

Also showing trump winning a boxing match but covid is the ref, yet he has loving covid and will not recover. Trumps demise is really going to kill Garrison's weird boner.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

dying while a hack scientist misinforms the public that you're doing great is the most on brand way for Trump to die

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009
More fuel for the "he's worse off than they say" fire:

https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1312782034838974465

armchairyoda
Sep 17, 2008
Melman
Srs question:

If the USSS has to put all POTARD’s poop in a can so it can’t be stolen, but the POTARD only poops in his depends pannies, is the “can” the USSS actually uses a “diaper genie”?

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

armchairyoda posted:

Srs question:

If the USSS has to put all POTARD’s poop in a can so it can’t be stolen, but the POTARD only poops in his depends pannies, is the “can” the USSS actually uses a “diaper genie”?

we've been over this, he poops into his own hand and slings it. So they have have a bag of drywall they've cut out every morning.

wuffles
Apr 10, 2004

Flyinglemur posted:

Sir, this is a Dead Gay Forums drive through

WHERES HUNTER THE TWEETS?!

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

armchairyoda posted:

Srs question:

If the USSS has to put all POTARD’s poop in a can so it can’t be stolen, but the POTARD only poops in his depends pannies, is the “can” the USSS actually uses a “diaper genie”?

The most senior officer on the detail has the special duty of using a scraper to scrape all the liquid turds out of the presidential diaper into cans every day.

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
An actual doctor with a lot of experience treating covid patients made a good post in the USPol thread:

Blind Rasputin posted:

I’m a doc that deals day in and day out with covid patients right now and just watched the presser and have some thoughts. Please, this isn’t medical advice or some expert opinion I’m still a goon that plays video games all the time, but I’m fairly far out from residency at this point and work primarily as an inpatient physician.

1. If he already has lung damage on ct scan or CXR that’s not a good sign. That, plus the very early hypoxia, means he’s already cleared about three of the first few hurdles that means he’s on his way to getting worse.

2. He’s the only human in the world to have received the monoclonal antibody cocktail, remdesivir, AND dexamathasone. Yes, we don’t give these for mild cases. But a) there’s a lot of good current research supporting the use of early initiation of systemic steroids in covid because it seems to help. B) he’s the president so of course he will get it all. So who knows what complications they’ve set him up for. He will certainly be hyperglycemic on the dex and I kind of wonder how he’s tolerating having to stomach insulin shots 4x a day rn.

3. His doc, dr Conley, obviously was told to “be energetic” yesterday and muffed it up but when he let the mask fall in the midst of a storm of questions today, he seemed.. honest. I don’t think Trump’s vitals are probably that bad right now. But nobody’s would be. Really. Not a single person 3 days out from diagnosis is already tubed. The time course of this is just longer and it’s really day 5-9 that will decide the rest of his life. Not today or even tomorrow. But again, presenting early on with hypoxia and pulmonary findings is not good at all. The pulmonary changes will get worse before they get better, because the body really hates covid and mounts a fairly insane inflammatory response in the lung tissue to it. I triage a poo poo load of possible covid cases, they all go home because they have clear imaging and aren’t hypoxic. The old 80yo with a low O2 sat and infiltrates on X-ray is actually pretty drat rare right now and they have to be admitted. They don’t get discharged two days later. They either get discharged a week or so later, or sadly not at all.

So I’m just kind of thinking the right thing to do is chill (like way way chill guys) until about Wednesday-Friday. He will either be fine or seriously ill. If he’s fine, I think that’s actually the worse outcome because he will act like it’s no biggie and he’s a big strong man and people will take this even less seriously and more people will die. But that’s just my opinion. A good solid hard hitting case that he recovers from would be best. Losing the president of America to death at any point is resoundingly awful for the country and our national security so I hope that doesn’t happen.

I think that more honesty is important, but I know they are weighing honesty against what they think is right for national security. I also think that it probably is in the country’s best interests that they just go balls out right now with every possible treatment because this is a very deadly disease for him, and again, losing the president is just an awful thing for America regardless of politics.

morningdrew
Jul 18, 2003

It's toe-tapping-ly tragic!

Just lol if he dies because he insists on taking photo ops with his big dumb sharpie

Matlack Radio
Jun 2, 2006

armchairyoda posted:

Never EVER let it be said that Trump supporters have any brain cells whatsoever.
https://twitter.com/MrTooDamnChris/status/1312757488371073024?s=20
: Don'tbeadummy!:
:lol:

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Shumagorath posted:

Maybe it's because I quit social media but why should I trust 538 after 2016?

After the Comey letter, Nate Silver was all over TV looking disheveled as gently caress saying, “30% is not zero. Trump can win this thing,” in response to all the Sam Wangs of the polling world who were saying, “Hillary is 99% likely to win. Trump can’t possibly win :smug:

We still talk about Nate Silver and 538. No one gives a gently caress about Sam Wang and the people like him. Nate Silver warned that the polls were moving in Trump’s direction in the days before the election. As has been mentioned, a lot of people accused Nate of just trying to drum up clickbait back then.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Zugzwang posted:

An actual doctor with a lot of experience treating covid patients made a good post in the USPol thread:

not sure why but the thought of actual MD's using SA in tyol2020, kind of freaks me out. and I say this as a medical professional.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

LOL!!!

Tinestram
Jan 13, 2006

Excalibur? More like "Needle"

Grimey Drawer

Enfys posted:

Does no one listen to the lyrics of Born in the USA

No, people don't listen to lyrics by and large. It was the funniest poo poo going to parties in the 90s and hearing the crowd belt out the chorus of Nine Inch Nails' "Closer", which as everybody knows is about a priest molesting altar boys.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Viruswithshoes posted:

I had the roni in February. I’m 34, slim and relatively fit with a decent diet, etc. Looking back now, it absolutely floored me for a week.

It started on a Saturday morning feeling like a usual cold. By Sunday evening I felt worse and went to bed early. I woke up at 4am on the Monday morning in pain all over, sweating profusely with a fever to boot. My wife went to work and left me with fluids and painkillers. On the Monday afternoon I could barely move and was seriously considering calling an ambulance because I was finding it hard to regulate my breathing - my heart rate was fluctuating between normal and rapid when lying still in bed too. All the while I had a deep, rasping cough. It took until the Wednesday evening before I could stomach substantial food other than soup. It was Friday before I could get up and move around without feeling like passing out.

I’ve been an agnostic who toys with atheism most of my life. I’m going to base my entire future beliefs about the nature of god and humanity based on the next 30 days.

Yikes. Glad you're OK!

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

LifeSunDeath posted:

not sure why but the thought of actual MD's using SA in tyol2020, kind of freaks me out. and I say this as a medical professional.
My guess is like most of us, they joined when they were around college age, and they stayed because the rest of the internet sucks so much.

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/corinne_perkins/status/1312793102474784770

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/djolder/status/1312609458908954624?s=20

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Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Pathetic.

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