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Squiggly posted:Not that I can tell Ok ##vote sandwolf
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Oct 5, 2020 06:44
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Squiggly, in your understanding of what happened last night, was the night killer able to actively visit their target? (yes, I know there wasn't a death last night)
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Oct 5, 2020 07:36
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I still don’t get why people swung to yank in the first place
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Oct 5, 2020 07:41
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Retro Futurist posted:I still don’t get why people swung to yank in the first place Makes two of us. Did me calling out DB really warrant a reaction that big? 
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Oct 5, 2020 07:54
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Dick Bastardly posted:Squiggly, in your understanding of what happened last night, was the night killer able to actively visit their target? (yes, I know there wasn't a death last night) I'm gonna be honest, I think people have different abilities based on different jutsus and I block various jutsus So I don't believe they would have been able to go anywhere because they would have tried to use a jutsu and I would have stopped that ability. That is my understanding at least
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Oct 5, 2020 13:21
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Retro Futurist posted:I still don’t get why people swung to yank in the first place Have you played mafia here in the last year This is every game Joke votes lingering on someone towards deadline in d1 doesn't make me want to finish the job. Yami could have been anyone (see steak and I voting Sal, who also was a shot in the dark)
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Oct 5, 2020 13:23
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What made you pick Sandwolf to block anyway
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Oct 5, 2020 14:50
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Dead Cow posted:What made you pick Sandwolf to block anyway ??????
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Oct 5, 2020 14:59
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##vote squiggly I don’t buy
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Oct 5, 2020 15:06
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Dead Cow posted:What made you pick Sandwolf to block anyway Squiggly posted:Right? Additionally, sandwolf has rolled sng levels of scum in my recent games and I like to interact with him, which leads to me implicitly trusting he's town with no proof. I wanted proof this game before deciding he was my town bro
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Oct 5, 2020 15:37
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t a s t e posted:##vote squiggly I don’t buy 
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Oct 5, 2020 15:37
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Squiggly, please explain this to me:Squiggly posted:In general the votes on db are d1 who the gently caress cares shot in the dark posts Squiggly posted:Let's do this when the votecount was like this: votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 1 It's bothering me a lot. If you have no vote preference at the time, why suddenly swerve the vote onto me with no real explanation?
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Oct 5, 2020 15:50
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Away from the vote leader, I mean.
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Oct 5, 2020 15:51
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I was interested in seeing if there were enough votes left to muster on you. The votes seemed there for db, so if I voted you would people switch? And if so with what justifications? I believed the information gained from voting you would be better since either flip was a coin toss. My wording is ambiguous, but it shouldn't be read as "let's do this," but rather "let's do this"
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Oct 5, 2020 15:55
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Yami Fenrir posted:Away from the vote leader, I mean. Why does it matter? Without a flip this doesn't mean poo poo unless you for some reason know how he'll flip I already debunked what your reasoning for voting him was, and there was no actual case. Vote leader isn't synonymous with confirmed scum as far as I'm aware
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Oct 5, 2020 15:59
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Okay? What about this post then: Squiggly posted:Right? Have you forgotten about being pinged by my posts, lol? I really feel like your words and actions don't match here. ##vote Squiggly
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Oct 5, 2020 16:02
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Squiggly posted:Why does it matter? Without a flip this doesn't mean poo poo unless you for some reason know how he'll flip The point was, that if you truly have no vote preference, is what is the point of trying to swerve away from the vote leader? At worst, a switch that late can even cause a no lunch which only benefits scum.
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Oct 5, 2020 16:03
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Yami Fenrir posted:Okay? No? You're OMGUSing real hard but it's a day too late man catch up here
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Oct 5, 2020 16:04
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Yami Fenrir posted:The point was, that if you truly have no vote preference, is what is the point of trying to swerve away from the vote leader? At worst, a switch that late can even cause a no lunch which only benefits scum. Because the votes were there. No one comes in and votes, I can switch to db. It gives information that no one wanted to switch to you. Db being saved also gives information, mostly depending on your flip
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Oct 5, 2020 16:05
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Squiggly posted:No? You're OMGUSing real hard but it's a day too late man catch up here All I'm saying is you could have literally said "I voted you because I was more suspicious of you than DB" and that would have been fine.
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Oct 5, 2020 16:05
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It just felt like you weren't all that attached to your read of "doubting my sincerity," since you already forgot.
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Oct 5, 2020 16:06
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Yami Fenrir posted:All I'm saying is you could have literally said "I voted you because I was more suspicious of you than DB" and that would have been fine. I told you what I didn't like, and it was an argument you shrugged and went "meh" about. I didn't find it particularly scummy, but I did doubt the sincerity of it. Much like db's vote on you, though, it doesn't mean much when you're simply trying to survive another day. Bad arguments abound by both town and scum when you're on the block I find it more interesting that people are ignoring and pushing against my result when there's no kill. There's no reason for me to claim at this point except to benefit town, especially seeing as Sal could've shut me down pretty easily if I was lying
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Oct 5, 2020 16:10
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Yami Fenrir posted:It just felt like you weren't all that attached to your read of "doubting my sincerity," since you already forgot. That is because I wasn't. I've already addressed this numerous times. See: "coin flip"
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Oct 5, 2020 16:11
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Squiggly posted:I told you what I didn't like, and it was an argument you shrugged and went "meh" about. I didn't find it particularly scummy, but I did doubt the sincerity of it. Much like db's vote on you, though, it doesn't mean much when you're simply trying to survive another day. Bad arguments abound by both town and scum when you're on the block To be entirely fair on the latter front, I'm waiting for sandwolf to say literally anything on the matter. (or anything at all)
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Oct 5, 2020 16:11
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Yami Fenrir posted:Okay? As I’ve said many times, yami is correct and true
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Oct 5, 2020 16:12
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Seems like they're just tactically ignoring it.
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Oct 5, 2020 16:12
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Gulag swap to squiggs pls
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Oct 5, 2020 16:12
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t a s t e posted:As I’ve said many times, yami is correct and true This is the second game where you didn't buy my claim, and the second game where I'm honest town presenting you a choice between myself and actual scum. I don't lie about my role man. Maybe you could doubt alignment, but not my role
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Oct 5, 2020 16:15
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Yami Fenrir posted:Seems like they're just tactically ignoring it. Yeah well when people like taste are gonna poo poo post me into being lynched why bother
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Oct 5, 2020 16:15
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Squiggly posted:This is the second game where you didn't buy my claim, and the second game where I'm honest town presenting you a choice between myself and actual scum. I don't lie about my role man. Maybe you could doubt alignment, but not my role For taste, it was tuesday
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Oct 5, 2020 16:16
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t a s t e posted:As I’ve said many times, yami is correct and true Like what is this poo poo you voted yami yesterday you turd
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Oct 5, 2020 16:17
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Lol
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Oct 5, 2020 16:20
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Taste is the Trump of mafia
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Oct 5, 2020 16:21
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I rest my case
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Oct 5, 2020 16:22
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I'm pretty confident that Squiggly is town based on his claim. It doesn't make sense from a scum claim point. It is way too early to pull the trigger on something like this to get a misexecute that would very likely end in his death the next day if he is wrong. I think he is putting too much weight behind it because no kill on a night you stop a target from using jutsus is an indicator, but nowhere as good as tracking/watching someone to the kill or getting a cop result to them. There are still plenty of options on where the kill went. That being said, with Squiggly's information, it makes sense that he'd jump on it in the absence of any flips thus far. So, I'm trying to find a scum justification here. I think I am going to assume that Squiggly is telling the truth about his role, because to do otherwise, on D2, is fraught with terrible repercussions for him. Getting caught in an avoidable lie would be silly. But he could be a scum blocker. So let's look at the scum motivations to claim d1. 1) Cred. He could get cred if he is a Sandwolf scum buddy, claims to have prevented the kill, and ride it to endgame. - This falls apart later game if he is still alive as a pseudo-confirmed town. And he has given up a scumbro way early to do it. I judge this unlikely 2) He is a blocker, he did block Sandwolf, but he knows the kill failed for other reasons. He pushes this narrative because he thinks it's what a town blocker would do. - This is much more likely than the prior option IMO, but still falls apart. He outs himself as a generally negative role, he gets a whole lotta blowback if Sandwolf flips town. It is day 2 which is basically D1 because no kills D1 or N1. It seems to dangerous for a gambit. The chances of it blowing up in his face are too large. If it were later in the game, I would put more credence behind it, but not now. I 'm still pretty sure Gulag is scum, but there is a weak night action pointing at Sandwolf, and that is stronger than anything else we have on D1 take 2: Electric Boogaloo. ##vote Sandwolf
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Oct 5, 2020 16:26
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Good morning. I’ve read Squiggly’s poo poo on me and I’m kind of confused by it? I believe he’s claiming some kind of roleblock but.. My action last night was successful? So I’m trying to suss out if Squiggly got night action bingo’d or is scum trying to push through a case.
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Oct 5, 2020 16:38
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Sandwolf posted:Good morning. I’ve read Squiggly’s poo poo on me and I’m kind of confused by it? I believe he’s claiming some kind of roleblock but.. My action last night was successful? Is your action not a jutsu, but like a thing? That is put horribly, but you get it.
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Oct 5, 2020 16:40
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Followup question, without claiming or anything, is your action verifiable?
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Oct 5, 2020 16:41
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Sandwolf posted:Good morning. I’ve read Squiggly’s poo poo on me and I’m kind of confused by it? I believe he’s claiming some kind of roleblock but.. My action last night was successful? Now that is interesting, especially with Steak claiming to be roleblocked. Don't tell me what your actual action is, but is your action something that can be proven or not? (for example a track) Again, don't say what the actual action is.
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Oct 5, 2020 16:41
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Grandicap posted:Is your action not a jutsu, but like a thing? That is put horribly, but you get it. I am not an expert on Naruto but I’m p sure it’s not a jutsu, it’s also fairly verifiable I think
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Oct 5, 2020 16:44
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