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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Porfiriato posted:

Wolf Warrior diplomacy paying dividends as always



Everyone have heard the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, but do you know the story of the Wolf Who Cried WHAAAAA?

Once (50,000 years ago) there was a Big wolf he was so big, and he lived in China for 50,000 years (and that is how long he owned tibet and taiwan and hong kong and mongolia and the diao yu islands). He was a strong wolf he built a giant wall and everyone knows about him.

For many years he was the #1 Wolf and his empire was able to colonize all the nearby lands and dominate their peoples, but as time passed he fell behind the pack. The other animals had invented industry and technology but he just had his wall and he could make fire crackers too. Eventually some foreign animals came and bullied him, he got real angry, but it didnt help.

After a little while more, a big scary tiger attacked him and almost killed him, but a big eagle flew across the ocean and blew the tiger up with atomic bombs. He was saved, and after that the foreign animals pretty much left him alone.

But after a while, people started to want to see him again, and before long he was making friends.

Things were fine for a while, but one day his friends started noticing things they didnt like. The wolf would steal their ideas and then claim he had invented them, and they were mad he put muslim ethnic minorities in concentration camps. Also, the wolf would not stop keeping wild animals in food markets, even though it kept spawning deadly plagues.

The wolf knew that if this kept up, he would be in trouble, so he conceived of a strategy to deal with the foreign animals.

The big wolf trained up a legion of Wolf Warriors, each one highly skilled in the discipline he had created.

These wolf warrior diplomats were experts and crying WHAAAAAAAAA! whenever the wolf was criticized. He knew that people cant listen to a baby cry for long, so he decided he would be the crying baby of the planet earth, and his wolf warriors would always be ready, everywhere, to bawl WHAAAAAAAAAA at the slightest provocation.

Surely the foreign animals would not want to hurt the feelings of the WOlf Warrior Diplomats!

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
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hakimashou posted:

Everyone have heard the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, but do you know the story of the Wolf Who Cried WHAAAAA?

Once (50,000 years ago) there was a Big wolf he was so big, and he lived in China for 50,000 years (and that is how long he owned tibet and taiwan and hong kong and mongolia and the diao yu islands). He was a strong wolf he built a giant wall and everyone knows about him.

For many years he was the #1 Wolf and his empire was able to colonize all the nearby lands and dominate their peoples, but as time passed he fell behind the pack. The other animals had invented industry and technology but he just had his wall and he could make fire crackers too. Eventually some foreign animals came and bullied him, he got real angry, but it didnt help.

After a little while more, a big scary tiger attacked him and almost killed him, but a big eagle flew across the ocean and blew the tiger up with atomic bombs. He was saved, and after that the foreign animals pretty much left him alone.

But after a while, people started to want to see him again, and before long he was making friends.

Things were fine for a while, but one day his friends started noticing things they didnt like. The wolf would steal their ideas and then claim he had invented them, and they were mad he put muslim ethnic minorities in concentration camps. Also, the wolf would not stop keeping wild animals in food markets, even though it kept spawning deadly plagues.

The wolf knew that if this kept up, he would be in trouble, so he conceived of a strategy to deal with the foreign animals.

The big wolf trained up a legion of Wolf Warriors, each one highly skilled in the discipline he had created.

These wolf warrior diplomats were experts and crying WHAAAAAAAAA! whenever the wolf was criticized. He knew that people cant listen to a baby cry for long, so he decided he would be the crying baby of the planet earth, and his wolf warriors would always be ready, everywhere, to bawl WHAAAAAAAAAA at the slightest provocation.

Surely the foreign animals would not want to hurt the feelings of the WOlf Warrior Diplomats!

It's beautiful.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
I know their economy doesn't qualify but I want to see that chart for Vietnam.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Shumagorath posted:

I know their economy doesn't qualify but I want to see that chart for Vietnam.

All fudgin’ the numbers so it makes a silhouette of an obscene gesture.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Porfiriato posted:

Wolf Warrior diplomacy paying dividends as always



What happened around 2017 that made lots of places change course but SK like them more?
From Australia perspective at least it's important to differentiate don't like China and don't like China's government, lots of people who say they don't like China actually mean the CCP and for many that didn't put much thinking into it they sort of blur together but they will agree they mean the CCP if you probe it unless they are actually racist which is not uncommon either. Even the Chinese people I know here on temporary working holidays or students don't seem to like the CCP much at all and consider CCP as a something they aren't part of and can't be part of that is hurting the Chinese people's reputation.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


They were making overtures toward China when things were at peak Trump fuckery with NK. I didn't think it'd last given how much most Koreans I've been around hate the Chinese, and if anything Chinese people I met hate Koreans even more.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
I'd say the Italian bit is due to tourists.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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One of the more interesting takeaways is that it suggests Merkel has been on the wrong side of German public opinion RE China for a long time

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.
There is a strong sentiment in Italy that their economy was hurt by trade liberalization, with industries like furniture, textiles and fashion being undercut by cheaper Chinese production. Also just as a personal anecdote the Italians I've met have been more racist than other Europeans, dont @ me.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Fojar38 posted:

Can't believe almost every one of those countries became at least 40% more racist all at the exact same time, poor Xi Dada

I would say the same amount of racist, but more willing to express it.

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Reminder that mainlander isn't a race in the first place you bakas :razzy:

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Ya a lot of europeans express their racism mainly through not voting in minorities as national leaders or appointing them to high positions in the government.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


i assure you there's a lot of anti-chinese racism in japan, mostly directed at immigrants (or "guest workers") and tourists. the change in the evaluation of the country can mostly be blamed on china's bellicose foreign policy, tho.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Grand Fromage posted:

They were making overtures toward China when things were at peak Trump fuckery with NK. I didn't think it'd last given how much most Koreans I've been around hate the Chinese, and if anything Chinese people I met hate Koreans even more.

The South Korea spike actually looks earlier than 2017 to me, maybe 2012-2013...in which case I would guess it was because that was around the time that the Diaoyu/Senkaku island dispute heated up and China was rabidly anti-Japan :laffo:

That would also explain why even now isn't quite the low point for Japanese public opinion, which looks to have bottomed out around the same time.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Porfiriato posted:

The South Korea spike actually looks earlier than 2017 to me, maybe 2012-2013...in which case I would guess it was because that was around the time that the Diaoyu/Senkaku island dispute heated up and China was rabidly anti-Japan :laffo:

That would also explain why even now isn't quite the low point for Japanese public opinion, which looks to have bottomed out around the same time.

Could be, and the second bump was NK. Hard to tell with the labels.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

I wish I would make posts like this.

Although admittedly I hear Wario's WAAAAAAAAAAH in this.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

lmfao

quote:

A calligraphy scroll by Mao Zedong said to be worth HK$2.3 billion – part of a haul stolen last month from the Hong Kong flat of a renowned collector – was torn into two pieces after being resold for a few hundred dollars to a man who thought it was a counterfeit, the Post has learned.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Kevin DuBrow posted:

There is a strong sentiment in Italy that their economy was hurt by trade liberalization, with industries like furniture, textiles and fashion being undercut by cheaper Chinese production. Also just as a personal anecdote the Italians I've met have been more racist than other Europeans, dont @ me.

Actually, now that I remember, wasn't there a problem already in the 1990s with Chinese traders coming to Italy and setting up sweatshops with slave labour imported from the Mainland, which then proceeded to drive out local textile etc. factories etc. out of business? I remember reading something about that.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Lol

this is the guy's apartment building



in which he claims to have kept

645,132,000.00 United States Dollars

worth of stamps and mao zedong calligraphy

quote:

Ho said the owner claimed the haul was estimated to be worth about HK$5 billion, though police were still trying to confirm the exact value of the stolen property through different channels.

Rabelais D
Dec 11, 2012

ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door
I love that story and I wondered at the same thing. The dude own(ed) priceless calligraphy and yet lives in a scummy walk-up off a main road that looks like it's infested with vermin.

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

hakimashou posted:

Lol

this is the guy's apartment building



in which he claims to have kept

645,132,000.00 United States Dollars

worth of stamps and mao zedong calligraphy
Oh man, I hope it turns out to be some ridiculous multi-layered fraud attempt. I miss clown-car con job stories like that from the Mainland.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Rabelais D posted:

I love that story and I wondered at the same thing. The dude own(ed) priceless calligraphy and yet lives in a scummy walk-up off a main road that looks like it's infested with vermin.

There was a large town I lived in when I did stereo sales. The worse the customer dressed, the more money they had. It was a given to use who had been there a while. They also knew what they wanted, so it was more of a formality of pointing out what they wanted and getting the cash. I had an audiophile customer (my favourite) that would bring in magazines for $2500 speakers (each) and I'd call the small bespoke manufacturer saying 'yes I'm not a distributer, but I'm 2000km away and his guy loves your stuff, gimme!' Then I'd have 100% profit, with a very tidy commision.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Grand Fromage posted:

They were making overtures toward China when things were at peak Trump fuckery with NK. I didn't think it'd last given how much most Koreans I've been around hate the Chinese, and if anything Chinese people I met hate Koreans even more.

What’s China’s beef with Korea?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Squalid posted:

What’s China’s beef with Korea?

Koreans stole the Dragon Boat Festival.

That's always the first and biggest thing I'm told. After that, most everything falls into the broad category of Koreans are arrogant pricks who claim to have invented everything (when everyone knows China invented everything). They uh, aren't entirely wrong about that but it's not a reason to hate people. Also they think Koreans were the most enthusiastic Japanese subjects during the war when it came to war criming on Chinese people, which is one of those things I can't find anything resembling reliable information about so who knows. I know during Vietnam the ROK troops were kind of infamous.

They also hate North Koreans in particular for being weak losers. But at least among people I talked to in Sichuan, South Korea was a prime enemy and either the Korean peninsula or Hong Kong was the first place they wanted to wipe off the face of the Earth with nuclear weapons.

Geopolitically it's stuff like THAAD and SK being a US ally. During the THAAD thing there was a solid month of real Korea hatred, stores would have signs up saying we are patriotic we sell no Korean products, I saw videos of Korean goods being piled up and burned on the street, etc. Then there was a border thing with India and everybody forgot about SK and started actively hating Indians.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Oct 8, 2020

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


It’s worth the money since it’s full proof in preventing apartment checks by your landlord.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


IDEA: A more assertive China refuses to bow down to diplomatic pressure from the imperialist Swedes!

https://twitter.com/Peterinexile/status/1313089744545427456

REALITY: this is killing

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Really, when your product already had a 2,000% profit margin. . .

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Happy China Number 1 National Day!

edit: Unrelatedly.

China is charging an Australian pro-democracy blogger and writer with espionage. After holding him for more than a year.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/australian-writer-formally-charged-with-espionage-reports-20201010-p563tw.html
This will help mend relations between the two countries for sure.

BrigadierSensible fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Oct 10, 2020

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44SG4obrYcs

Teahouse scam using lovely apps

Kharnifex fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Oct 10, 2020

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


BrigadierSensible posted:

Happy China Number 1 National Day!

edit: Unrelatedly.

China is charging an Australian pro-democracy blogger and writer with espionage. After holding him for more than a year.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/australian-writer-formally-charged-with-espionage-reports-20201010-p563tw.html
This will help mend relations between the two countries for sure.

The line where there aren't anymore Australian journalists there is something that I forgot about, it's really bad when you think about it. A huge population country and one of the biggest economies and trade partner but other countries can't even get a independent first hand report of things there.

Zushio
May 8, 2008

I got ads for China's new lovely Gatcha game before and during this video. Seems reasonable.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
The Didi ride share ads I get drive me insane

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Zushio posted:

I got ads for China's new lovely Gatcha game before and during this video. Seems reasonable.

Genshin Impact right? The blatant Breath of the Wild knockoff?

Apparently it's making waves which is unfortunate because now a bunch of people who think it's a Japanese game are going to be funding concentration camps

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Fojar38 posted:

Genshin Impact right? The blatant Breath of the Wild knockoff?

Apparently it's making waves which is unfortunate because now a bunch of people who think it's a Japanese game are going to be funding concentration camps

"Genshin Impact funds concentration camps" is a little hyperbolic even for this thread. I do find stuff like this absurd though.

https://kotaku.com/genshin-impact-is-censoring-words-like-taiwan-and-ho-1845294645

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Well, they managed it with Azur Lane. Which from what I understand is just Kancolle with even less clothing.

All else fails, expose tat.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Not So Fast posted:

"Genshin Impact funds concentration camps" is a little hyperbolic even for this thread. I do find stuff like this absurd though.

If you give money to Chinese companies you're giving money to the CCP hth

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Like you can justify having to have some of your money end up in China when you're talking about complicated products with long supply chains that are necessary to have a proper quality of life but here we're talking about a lovely ripoff gacha game

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Fojar38 posted:

If you give money to Chinese companies you're giving money to the CCP hth

I'm not saying you're a liar, I'm saying it's hyperbolic to link a video-game made in China to the camps. It would be like claiming buying Halo 5 funds the concentration camps on the US border.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I think we can settle on the game being a CCP dick move and it's easy enough not to support games coming out of China or has kowtow. Of all games the last thing I would want to play is some pay2win/Gacha/free2play junk no matter which country it's from.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I would love to stop paying taxes that go to governments running concentration camps. Upsetting how difficult that is to do.

In South Korea I wasn't paying for camps but there are islands where disabled people are sent to be enslaved, which the authorities are fully aware of and don't care about.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Oct 10, 2020

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