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WeaponX
Jul 28, 2008



Kawalimus posted:

What can the Capitals expect from Lundqvist? Is he cooked or can they get a good season or two out of him?

Like ppl have said the Rangers fielded a real bad defense core in front of him. He got left out to dry a lot.

Granted he is not what he used to be but I could see him having success in a better system. Good chance he rebounds as a solid 1b. But goalies are voodoo and there is a chance he’s out of gas....give his track record and how incredibly competitive he is, I wouldn’t bet against him.

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Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1315026445186498561

Flames are, once again, signing a Canucks player.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
Aside from just trying to piss me off, what is the point of this? He's 29, he's not good, he doesn't have some Senators higher cap hit than salary contract, and it costs a mid-round pick from a rebuilding team. He just takes away a roster spot. Even if you just ignore his DV charge I really don't see what getting him is supposed to accomplish.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1315029649890725889

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1315030965308268544

WeaponX
Jul 28, 2008




3x2?? I would have made that deal if I was NYR....disappointing..

Fast is not irreplaceable and not a guy to give a ton of money too but 2mil AAV is really good value for someone that is as dependable and responsible as he is. Can really play in all situations, a guy coaches will love and players will love too every time he bails them out with a great backcheck. Will miss him on NYR for sure.

WeaponX fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Oct 10, 2020

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

This loving sucks, wtf Jeff.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

Matt Zerella posted:

This loving sucks, wtf Jeff.

I have the rough outline of a theory that they didn't sign Fast because they knew they weren't going to use an expansion protection spot on him, and with their strategy for expansion being basically to only expose players they signed yesterday, Fast definitely would have been picked for Seattle and they didn't want to do that to him.

For my next trick, I will come up with a convoluted reason for why signing Jack Johnson was actually good

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

OldSenileGuy posted:

I have the rough outline of a theory that they didn't sign Fast because they knew they weren't going to use an expansion protection spot on him, and with their strategy for expansion being basically to only expose players they signed yesterday, Fast definitely would have been picked for Seattle and they didn't want to do that to him.

For my next trick, I will come up with a convoluted reason for why signing Jack Johnson was actually good

I think BSB or Shayna pointed out on twitter that the Rangers would have to pay more due to taxes so it would t have been as low here. Makes sense. This still stinks,I like Fast. Cherish him Carolina, dude is all heart and a Swiss Army knife.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001
I still remember when Vegas expansion came around, they basically had to choose between Fast or Lindberg.

Probably would be celebrating their third Cup if they had picked Fast :shrug:

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/NHLPA/status/1315039587530674176

quote:

Boston Bruins

Matt Grzelcyk

Buffalo Sabres

Victor Olofsson

Sam Reinhart

Linus Ullmark

Calgary Flames

Andrew Mangiapane

Carolina Hurricanes

Clark Bishop

Haydn Fleury

Warren Foegele

Gustav Forsling

Colorado Avalanche

Ryan Graves

Detroit Red Wings

Tyler Bertuzzi

Florida Panthers

MacKenzie Weegar

Minnesota Wild

Kaapo Kahkonen

New York Islanders

Joshua Ho-Sang

Ryan Pulock

Devon Toews

New York Rangers

Tony DeAngelo

Alexandar Georgiev

Brendan Lemieux

Ryan Strome

Ottawa Senators

Connor Brown

Christian Jaros

Nick Paul

Chris Tierney

Toronto Maple Leafs

Ilya Mikheyev

Vancouver Canucks

Jake Virtanen

WeaponX
Jul 28, 2008



OldSenileGuy posted:

I have the rough outline of a theory that they didn't sign Fast because they knew they weren't going to use an expansion protection spot on him, and with their strategy for expansion being basically to only expose players they signed yesterday, Fast definitely would have been picked for Seattle and they didn't want to do that to him.

For my next trick, I will come up with a convoluted reason for why signing Jack Johnson was actually good

After the last expansion draft I’m not willing to say for sure Seattle would take Fast.... Vegas took a lot of strange picks...

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Matt Zerella posted:

I think BSB or Shayna pointed out on twitter that the Rangers would have to pay more due to taxes so it would t have been as low here. Makes sense. This still stinks,I like Fast. Cherish him Carolina, dude is all heart and a Swiss Army knife.

Players pay the tax rate of the state where they play so this talking point remains wrong.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

rex rabidorum vires posted:

Players pay the tax rate of the state where they play so this talking point remains wrong.

Half of your games in a lower taxed state vs a higher one?

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

rex rabidorum vires posted:

Players pay the tax rate of the state where they play so this talking point remains wrong.

The tax rate of your home state/province matters a lot because that's where you're playing half of your games.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

rex rabidorum vires posted:

Players pay the tax rate of the state where they play so this talking point remains wrong.

It's not as big a deal as people think, but you play 41 of those games at home and any other income they may have like endorsement deals uses that rate too.

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line
Austin Watson has 3 years left on his contract? gently caress me, the offseason started so promising with Trebek making the Stutzle pick before I was reminded Ottawa doesn’t have pro scouts

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.


lmfao

iospace
Jan 19, 2038



:byewhore:

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Kilza posted:

Flames are, once again, signing a Canucks player.

If you can only sometimes beat em, raid them for all the best players that were largely responsible for that, then beat em.

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER
I suspect Mr. David Rittich is on the way out of Calgary.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



Aphrodite posted:

How good are Moneypuck's metrics? They're the only source of expected save percentage I can find since Corsica never works.

They have Lundqvist performing below expectations (which takes into account having a poo poo rear end team) for 4 years now.

Not sure about moneypuck but Natural Stat Trick and Evolving Hockey have him as a better than average goalie in terms of goals saved above expected last year and over the past 3 years, and I also think Micah’s model on Hockeyviz has him above average as well (though I’m not a patreon subscriber so I can’t confirm this one).

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/1315045819914104832

Metrics have him listed as, A Good Serviceable NHL player at the 4th line level. Minimum contract gets maximum value.

VOTE1
Aug 23, 2007

Aye Doc posted:

it owns that the canucks mucked things up so badly their primary target is now their own 7D from last year, who they are going to be hoping to sign to be their 5D. good job jim

If the Canucks missed out on a bunch of players because they had decided that free agent frenzy was a bad way to build a team (looking at the last few years of free agent spurges, a fairly rational viewpoint) I’d be ok with it. However instead they missed out because they were too busy going after blockbuster deals (OEL) with contracts that make Myers look cheap, or players they don’t really need (Barrie - already have a PP QB). Because of the cap mess they thankfully couldn’t land them, but really what a mess. How do you have a team that is capped out when your best two players are on entry level deals...

Is there any other team where half a dozen guys wouldn’t get claimed if waived?

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1315059654456639488
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1315058871967379456

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

That was a very exciting four minutes.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1315060518730838017

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1315060518730838017

e;fb. Rename Kilza Uncle Bobby.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I'm perfectly fine with the Canucks not signing Tanev or Markstrom given the deals they got. I'm also perfectly fine with the Holtby signing given the short contract, reasonable price, and no NMC. I wish they'd have tried harder to sign Stecher, but it's not the end of the world and there are kids that will push for his spot.

The Canucks desperately need another top-4 D, though, and Vancouver is rapidly being priced out of the market for the remaining UFAs.

I guess what I'm saying is that this off-season has been okay, it's the lovely contracts from previous off-seasons that are the problem.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

In case anybody thought there was more to this:
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1315060800776798208

Leafs needed to clear cap space after signing Brodie, so there you go.
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1315061708285771776

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
This is one of the greatest name-based trades of all time. In fact, it probably is.

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Depth scorer for a nobody and cap relief? Ok then Toronto.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1315062673487417344

Ummagumma
Jul 19, 2004
skydog
Bowman has lost 3 Brandon Saad trades, impressive

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1315064964131028993

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
So the Rangers could have had Fast for 2m per but chose to use 1 million to sign Jack Johnson.

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
i like joey anderson but you take that trade any day. fitz and the computer boys are doing some good work

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Perhaps the best trade of the year. No take backs, motherfuckers.

clean ayers act
Aug 13, 2007

How do I shot puck!?
https://twitter.com/m_bultman/status/1315040620952662016?s=20

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Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

clean ayers act posted:

https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/1314657908173484033?s=20

Didnt realize the Wings signed a member of the Wolverine Watchmen

From pages ago but I’m pretty sure I bought a grilled cheese and a chillum from this guy at a Dead and Co show last year. Right on

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