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If it was something unique to the elder wand or something that only happened under very specific and ritualistic circumstances like a formal duel or something, then maybe I could buy that most people aren't aware that wands can change ownership like that. But that's just not the case: Malfoy gets the elder wand because he got the drop on a curse-stricken Dumbledore and disarmed him, and later Harry gets ownership of both Malfoy's wand AND the elder wand because he like, tackles Malfoy to the ground. If it's that easy to earn the loyalty of another's wand you'd think it'd come up a lot more than it does.
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Sydin posted:If it was something unique to the elder wand or something that only happened under very specific and ritualistic circumstances like a formal duel or something, then maybe I could buy that most people aren't aware that wands can change ownership like that. But that's just not the case: Malfoy gets the elder wand because he got the drop on a curse-stricken Dumbledore and disarmed him, and later Harry gets ownership of both Malfoy's wand AND the elder wand because he like, tackles Malfoy to the ground. If it's that easy to earn the loyalty of another's wand you'd think it'd come up a lot more than it does. Because more often than not, if you're in a situation where you're dueling another wizard, you're not really going to care about claiming their wand after you kick their rear end, presumably because your own wand was sufficient enough to do the job; why would you want to bother trading it out for one that just lost to you? And since most wizards tend to look down on "muggle dueling practices" like just punching a motherfucker in the face, if you do end up losing your own wand in a duel, odds are you're likely to be incapacitated or killed before you can come up with something you can do to overpower your opponent and take their wand from them. So rather than being common knowledge, it's just weird esoterica that's really only known about by professional wandcrafters or wand weebs who study wands as a hobby.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 01:38 |
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W.T. Fits posted:Because more often than not, if you're in a situation where you're dueling another wizard, you're not really going to care about claiming their wand after you kick their rear end, presumably because your own wand was sufficient enough to do the job; why would you want to bother trading it out for one that just lost to you? And since most wizards tend to look down on "muggle dueling practices" like just punching a motherfucker in the face, if you do end up losing your own wand in a duel, odds are you're likely to be incapacitated or killed before you can come up with something you can do to overpower your opponent and take their wand from them. So rather than being common knowledge, it's just weird esoterica that's really only known about by professional wandcrafters or wand weebs who study wands as a hobby. It's not even necessarily a dueling thing only though. Apparently you lose ownership of your wand if another wizard so much as slaps you on the rear end hard enough. You'd think through the natural course of all the bullying that takes place at Hogwarts, you'd have tons of people who inadvertently lose the loyalty of their wands and it being a huge issue.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 02:55 |
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Sydin posted:It's not even necessarily a dueling thing only though. Apparently you lose ownership of your wand if another wizard so much as slaps you on the rear end hard enough. You'd think through the natural course of all the bullying that takes place at Hogwarts, you'd have tons of people who inadvertently lose the loyalty of their wands and it being a huge issue. That's the thing, though - getting your butt kicked doesn't mean your wand stops listening to you, it just means it will now also work for whoever kicked your rear end. Harry's actually been disarmed of his phoenix core wand before, and it still worked just as well as it always did up until it got smashed in the seventh book.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 03:05 |
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Zore posted:Neville's upbringing is honestly probably more abusive than Harry's. He tells a 'funny story' of how he discovered he had magic in one of the early books. He was so late to display it everyone thought he was a squib so his great-uncle dropped him out of a third story window and he only survived by instinctually turning himself into rubber. He then talks about how that was the first time his grandmother ever seemed proud of him. There's actually a bit where Harry sees Neville visiting his near-catatonic parents in the wizard hospital and reflects that Neville might actually have it even worse than he does. Who What Now posted:It is kinda funny that whenever Harry and Voldemort have a clash they pit power of instant death against the power of... pushing a stick out of a hand. Adava Kedavra is at least implicitly very hard to do unless you really mean it, which isn't hard for homicidal lunatic Voldemort but implied to be moreso for everyone else. If you've got people trying to kill you all the time and kinda suck at spells, Expellarmius does seem like a practical one, since while a dangerous foe might be able to power through all manner of hexes and even Crucio in a pinch, disarming them takes away almost all of their options, and while it doesn't really come up it's one spell which is equally viable against someone wielding any kind of weapon. And it seems implied to be easy to use, compared to more advanced spells.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 07:16 |
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NikkolasKing posted:Dunno if you or anybody else here remember or watched the Harry Potter Let's Plays done on this here forum about a decade ago now but I still love them and I'm very grateful I saved at least 7 of them. please tell me you have the one where one guy had a complete nervous breakdown during a bean collection minigame, i can only find this clip and need it back
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 08:18 |
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You don't have playlists! I want to watch these in order!
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 08:27 |
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Last night I started my complete reread of the entire Harry Potter series. It’s been a long long time since I actually read these. I want to be better equipped to making fun of it and also enjoy the Shrieking podcast a little more by following along with it. I fell asleep before finishing the first chapter. Off to a great start.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 10:16 |
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:You don't have playlists! I want to watch these in order! You mean me? Sorry, I rarely ever upload to YouTube and only did this on a request. Here are all the vids I have and put in a playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ-06zMCdll3emOBBReTtQHUApuS4SKdB It's a small miracle I have even this many as I only saved these because they would not load for me on the old blip or viddler players so I had to download them to watch them. Still, 7 is better than 0 I guess. dordreff posted:please tell me you have the one where one guy had a complete nervous breakdown during a bean collection minigame, i can only find this clip and need it back Unfortunately not but thank you and that person for uploading that clip. Rirse always told me he had all of them and would upload them but he never did and now he's banned so....
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 11:17 |
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I'm a big fan of the Goblet of Fire game that's a horrible ripoff of the LotR film games, and the final games that are even horribler ripoffs of Gears of War. Harry Potter and the Tedious Cover Shooter. Also I'm unironically excited for the dumb victorian Hogwarts rpg and I'm ashamed of myself for it.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 15:44 |
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Oy harry you turned yer'self into a newt!
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 16:15 |
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Reading this thread has made me realize that wizards are so much dumber than I thought.
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CainFortea posted:Reading this thread has made me realize that wizards are so much dumber than I thought. thread title
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CainFortea posted:Reading this thread has made me realize that wizards are so much dumber than I thought. Why do you think the wizards were studying brains in the department of mysteries?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm a big fan of the Goblet of Fire game that's a horrible ripoff of the LotR film games, and the final games that are even horribler ripoffs of Gears of War. Harry Potter and the Tedious Cover Shooter. I'm only gonna play Harry Potter and the Tedious Cover Shooter if it has Unforgivable Melee Executions.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 17:56 |
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Sodomy Hussein posted:I'm only gonna play Harry Potter and the Tedious Cover Shooter if it has Unforgivable Melee Executions. I'm just picturing Fatalities and realising duelling would work way better as a fighting game We see magic do hosed up poo poo like remove bones from an arm, do that on the whole body, or other ludicrously hosed up poo poo like expelling your organs from every orifice or exploding your blood or vomiting acid all over yourself
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm just picturing Fatalities and realising duelling would work way better as a fighting game it should be like fallout with bodypart targeting, only you have a spell list 300 long. now THAT would be pod racing
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TheAardvark posted:it should be like fallout with bodypart targeting, only you have a spell list 300 long. now THAT would be pod racing I slow down time and use all my action points to Flipendo a Death Eater in the nuts six times in a row before he ragdolls across the room at mach five and clips through a wall My ideal Harry Potter game has always been Bully set in Hogwarts, ideally with a new or player created character and a focus on exploration and discovery instead of action set pieces
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 18:35 |
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chaleski posted:I slow down time and use all my action points to Flipendo a Death Eater in the nuts six times in a row before he ragdolls across the room at mach five and clips through a wall Bully is scarily not far off a VN, especially since you literally regain health by kissing, and there's gay options
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chaleski posted:I slow down time and use all my action points to Flipendo a Death Eater in the nuts six times in a row before he ragdolls across the room at mach five and clips through a wall That's what I'm hoping for the new one. Especially because it's far enough removed from the Voldemort poo poo that I can finally be a good slytherin. I wanna be low key scummy rogue, not likeable but also not a loving incel or nazi. Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm just picturing Fatalities and realising duelling would work way better as a fighting game lol that deleting and regrowing your bones is just Tuesday on the good guy side, and the worst thing the bad guy wizards can think of is instant painless execution.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 19:11 |
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Harry Potter but Bully/Persona/etc and set in Hogwarts, away from the main plot could legitimately be good. Who knows what we're actually going to get though.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Especially because it's far enough removed from the Voldemort poo poo that I can finally be a good slytherin. I wanna be low key scummy rogue, not likeable but also not a loving incel or nazi. House Slytherin was literally founded by a man who hid a Snake Monster in the bathroom in order to murder
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 19:39 |
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"Heritage not hate" - modern Slytherins
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 19:45 |
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JKR also did stupid poo poo like have all the Slytherins either run away from the Battle for Hogwarts or explicitly join Voldemort's side. Literally the only 'good Slytherins' we see in the series are Slughorn (who's still a huge piece of poo poo) and Snape/Regulus who do absolutely monstrous things before they snap out of it and are redeemed in death.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 20:01 |
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Remake Lemmings but with house elves
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 20:02 |
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I respect the idea of wanting a character who's kind of a jerk, but not entirely the worst scum, but that's still treating the House system with more depth than it has in the original material. Just like imagining the Hufflepuffs as more than redshirts. Of course, the further you can get away from the source material and expand the world to really be larger, the better. Ghost Leviathan posted:Bully is scarily not far off a VN, especially since you literally regain health by kissing, and there's a gay option Eh, the balance is way more towards gameplay than plot or dialogue, and you don't so much choose a girl as you just romance a girl every chapter for each of the social groups you dominate.
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galagazombie posted:House Slytherin was literally founded by a man who hid a Snake Monster in the bathroom in order to murder That's a fair point but my wizard lore is 90% emo fanfic from a decade ago and 10% anything JK Rowling ever wrote, and I'd like to run up the percentage. e: dramione forever no questions please. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Oct 13, 2020 |
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Rowling also claims Merlin was a Slytherin but it was long after people stopped giving a poo poo about her Twitter retcons and is almost offensively lazy to just go "yeah the greatest wizard in history even more so than Dumbledore was a Slytherin, see I can make Slytherin more nuanced and no I won't explain how he fits in with them at all"Edgar Allen Ho posted:e: dramione forever no questions please. I'm calling the cops
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chaleski posted:Rowling also claims Merlin was a Slytherin but it was long after people stopped giving a poo poo about her Twitter retcons and is almost offensively lazy to just go "yeah the greatest wizard in history even more so than Dumbledore was a Slytherin, see I can make Slytherin more nuanced and no I won't explain how he fits in with them at all" Hogwarts was founded in 990 AD which is at the tail end of when most Merlin myths take place. So either he went to Hogwarts when he was an adult/several hundred years old (depending on tradition) or JKR just threw up some bullshit.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 20:38 |
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Had she known how the series would blow up in popularity or how it's tone would change in later books (or how well Slytherin merch would sell), I definitely think Rowling wouldn't have made Salazar Slytherin himself both a Nazi and the founder of wizard Nazism. It made sense when Slytherin was just "the bullies" but now we're just going back around to talking about whimsicalness for the thousandth time.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 20:56 |
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JK got a fortune for pretending there were beans that taste like garbage but my family tells me my beans taste like garbage every night and they won't even help me do the drat dishes!
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galagazombie posted:Had she known how the series would blow up in popularity or how it's tone would change in later books (or how well Slytherin merch would sell), I definitely think Rowling wouldn't have made Salazar Slytherin himself both a Nazi and the founder of wizard Nazism. It made sense when Slytherin was just "the bullies" but now we're just going back around to talking about whimsicalness for the thousandth time. Bold assumption given the inclusion of literal banking goblins.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 21:21 |
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Both Sluggy Freelance and Billy and Mandy had extended Harry Potter parodies that kept on being revisited over time as the franchise continued. I can't risk diving back into the Sluggy Freelance archives, but it's interesting to look at old clips of Nigel Planter at Toadblatt's School of Sorcery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usjD_-3sMRY
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 21:29 |
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The show Charmed had a shoehorned-in Hogwarts knock-off around 2003, except it was literally just called "Magic School". (sidenote: there is a much bigger Charmed fanbase online than I would have expected!)
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 21:43 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE4IpoJTXjU let's not forget what the school's biggest idiots had to say as soon Draco got his birthright
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Zore posted:Hogwarts was founded in 990 AD which is at the tail end of when most Merlin myths take place. So either he went to Hogwarts when he was an adult/several hundred years old (depending on tradition) or JKR just threw up some bullshit. Merlin went through time backwards. So he would have been just the right age to attend Hogwarts as a kid during the first decade or two of its existence, and then help young Arthur with his quests 130 years earlier.
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 22:50 |
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holy poo poo the actual Luna Lovegood was in the dumb harry potter musical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a81FO-2TxNg&list=PLvep3WS9e8tRA_amclMNdVkVqNazfebXk&index=2
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Zore posted:Hogwarts was founded in 990 AD which is at the tail end of when most Merlin myths take place. So either he went to Hogwarts when he was an adult/several hundred years old (depending on tradition) or JKR just threw up some bullshit. Merlin was obsessed with taking ye olde personality quizzes
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# ? Oct 13, 2020 23:27 |
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Maybe she meant to say Oberlin
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Charmed kicked rear end.
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