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Which season should the next animated reconstruction be from? This poll is closed. |
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| Season 1 (Marco Polo) |
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13 | 18.57% |
| Season 2 (The Crusade) |
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1 | 1.43% |
| Season 3 (Galaxy 4/The Myth Makers/The Daleks' Master Plan/The Massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve/The Celestial Toymaker/The Savages) |
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25 | 35.71% |
| Season 4 (The Smugglers/The Highlanders/The Underwater Menace/The Evil of the Daleks) |
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16 | 22.86% |
| Season 5 (The Abominable Snowmen/The Web of Fear/The Wheel in Space) |
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11 | 15.71% |
| Season 6 (The Space Pirates) |
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4 | 5.71% |
| Total: | 70 votes | ||
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Barry Foster posted:Ugh It's apparently an impersonator who played the War Doctor in a bunch of online projects. Really don't feel particularly good about this, even though "the War Doctor when he was younger" could be a good idea.
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Oct 14, 2020 13:37
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Just listened to the except, Jonathon Carley does a pretty good Younger John Hurt. The sets are starting literally right after Night, the expert has Ohilia mentioning that they're about to bury Kass. I'm cautiously optimistic
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Oct 14, 2020 13:41
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It's wonderful that we've reached the ''tribute act singer joining the actual band'' stage of the IP.
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Oct 14, 2020 13:57
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Rochallor posted:It's wonderful that we've reached the ''tribute act singer joining the actual band'' stage of the IP. It's been that way for years, with no less than THREE First Doctors (David Bradley, William Russell, and Peter Purves), Frazier Hines as the Second, and Tim Treloar as the Third. Then of course, you had Bradley and Richard Hurndell as the First on TV. It'll be interesting if BF can/will license photos of a young John Hurt for the covers. Davros1 fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Oct 14, 2020 |
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Oct 14, 2020 14:22
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tbh I think I'd care more if there was any sense of who the writers were and what the plots are.jivjov posted:Just listened to the except, Jonathon Carley does a pretty good Younger John Hurt. The sets are starting literally right after Night, the expert has Ohilia mentioning that they're about to bury Kass. I'm cautiously optimistic I'm pretty sure that's a recast too.
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Oct 14, 2020 14:27
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Reminds me of David Bradley, in that it's close enough to get the job done, but it lacks the spark the original actor brought to the role
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Oct 14, 2020 16:50
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Bradley did a really good William Hartnell, but his First Doctor was poo poo.
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Oct 14, 2020 17:09
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I think I like this approach, since it's a newly regenerated version of War, the fact his voice sounds a little younger/off is sensible. Thankfully we at least got the one box set with Hurt and the 50th to cap off his eventual run.
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Oct 14, 2020 17:28
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I should have put my voice samples up, I do a great John Hurt too. 
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Oct 14, 2020 19:04
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cargohills posted:The catch is that it's the first of four parts of a(n expensive) box set, which is the first of a(n expensive) four box set series, which is one of four Paul McGann box set series that already exist with more undoubtedly on the way. Yeah its the price that puts me off, but the older audios are like £3 each digitally, so I might have to get some, because I've only heard a handful of the audios before.
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Oct 14, 2020 19:37
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The old ones are worth it I'd say. Not everything's great but all the best stories are from the £3 collection.
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Oct 14, 2020 20:32
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Zaroff posted:Bradley did a really good William Hartnell, but his First Doctor was poo poo. I actually think I prefer Hurndall's portrayal. It's not very good at all - it's big and broad and a bit silly - but Bradley's just doesn't even feel like the First Doctor to me.
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Oct 15, 2020 12:05
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Barry Foster posted:I actually think I prefer Hurndall's portrayal. It's not very good at all - it's big and broad and a bit silly - but Bradley's just doesn't even feel like the First Doctor to me. It's more the writing than the performance I think--he does just fine in the Big Finish stuff that's using the Adventure in Space and Time cast, but that Christmas special turned him into a caricature of 60s toxic sexism and I still can't tell if that was meant to be poking at the era of the show, the era of society in general, or some kind of horrid misremembrance of how the character was.
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Oct 15, 2020 12:12
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I really like Bradley as Hartnell, but I feel like he should have watched some 1st Doctor stuff to properly get the mannerisms a little better. He does pauses in places Hartnell wouldn't have.
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Oct 15, 2020 12:24
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Bradley wasn't doing anything too special in Twice Upon A Time, but honestly I didn't think he was that great in the docudrama either. It was less his performance, though, and more the scripting of Hartnell as starting to lose it during his tenure as the Doctor. It's cliche, and also kind of unfounded. Like I wasn't there, but a lot of that was shot in one or two takes, and Hartnell is doing a fine job with it. I think most of what people take as dementia is just acting, most of the time. He's so difficult to watch by the time of The Three Doctors, but that was quite a few years later. That Christmas special overall was really hampered by the feeling that nobody wanted to be doing it. Moffat was clearly done with the show, Capaldi was on autopilot, I think Bill was there and it was nice to see her. That final speech reads like it was dashed out on a napkin on that way to the studio. And yet it still has one of the funniest jokes Moffat's ever written: casting the two runners-up to the showrunner job as opposing soldiers shooting at each other in a trench.
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Oct 15, 2020 12:28
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The_Doctor posted:I really like Bradley as Hartnell, but I feel like he should have watched some 1st Doctor stuff to properly get the mannerisms a little better. He does pauses in places Hartnell wouldn't have. I think it's fine for two different actors to give their own two different performances of the same character (the first doctor). rather than expecting an exact imitation of how someone else played him.
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Oct 15, 2020 12:43
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jivjov posted:It's more the writing than the performance I think--he does just fine in the Big Finish stuff that's using the Adventure in Space and Time cast, but that Christmas special turned him into a caricature of 60s toxic sexism and I still can't tell if that was meant to be poking at the era of the show, the era of society in general, or some kind of horrid misremembrance of how the character was. Huh I didn't realise he was working with BF
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Oct 15, 2020 13:06
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Barry Foster posted:Huh I didn't realise he was working with BF 4 volumes so far, using the TARDIS crew from the docudrama. Fair warning, the first set does feature noted transphobe James Dreyfus playing the first incarnation of the Master so that may be something to avoid depending on how strongly you feel about not supporting his work.
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Oct 15, 2020 13:16
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I'd watch another Bradley as first doctor story in a heartbeat, but like everyone in this thread I will just put my face in the trough and happily eat no matter what gets thrown in there.
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Oct 15, 2020 15:18
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Not sure how I feel about this. I mean, I was the one who said I wanted War in TL:V, but I was thinking comics or a novel. On the other hand, I'm usually fine with recasting so we can enjoy stories with older Doctors, and I've whined before about them being so hesitant to recast some of the prime players in Dark Shadows (which is a soap opera and recasting is par for the course!). I guess it seems a bit soon after Hurt died for me. Davros1 posted:It's been that way for years, with no less than THREE First Doctors (David Bradley, William Russell, and Peter Purves), Frazier Hines as the Second, and Tim Treloar as the Third. IMO Peter Purves is the best First, though William Russell plays a better Hartnell nowadays than he does Young Ian!
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Oct 16, 2020 04:07
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The_Doctor posted:I should have put my voice samples up, I do a great John Hurt too. Oh for God's sake.
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Oct 18, 2020 02:39
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My current classic re-watch has stalled out at The Twin Dilemma, just like the last one did. Got through Caves of Androzani in one sitting and it's taken me two weeks to get halfway though Twin Dilemma. It's just so boring, and bad, and the Doctor is the worst in it Androzani to Twins has to be the worst episode quality whiplash in all of Doctor Who. How can they go from one of the best ever to this tedious poo poo?
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Oct 18, 2020 19:44
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Do what we're doing and watch them in a random order
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Oct 19, 2020 11:06
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I can't pretend like I'm not guilty given I've bought a couple of the First Doctor and Third Doctor Adventures but I just don't really feel this. Like, if it was going to be something in the style of the Companion Chronicles or Early Adventures then yeah, I don't know that I really need these stories but I like that format so I'd possibly be receptive to the idea of more War Doctor stories told that way. I just, knowing that the recasting debate is kind of old hat at this point, feel like regeneration is already the show's built in means of recasting and that "recasting" a particular incarnation of the Doctor is really missing the point. They already recast Bill Hartnell, that was how we got Patrick Troughton's Doctor Who
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Oct 19, 2020 11:37
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Homora Gaykemi posted:I can't pretend like I'm not guilty given I've bought a couple of the First Doctor and Third Doctor Adventures but I just don't really feel this. I still can't find the clip that shows his impersonation of Hurt. Anyone got a link handy or am I missing the obvious?
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Oct 19, 2020 17:07
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McGann posted:I still can't find the clip that shows his impersonation of Hurt. Anyone got a link handy or am I missing the obvious? https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1316353652840378368
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Oct 19, 2020 17:13
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Do what we're doing and watch them in a random order That does sound like fun. I might do that for Star Trek. But I'm determined to finish this re-watch in order, get all the way to 13. Now made it to Attack of the Cybermen, which is ok I guess. After how terrible Twin Dilemma was I don't really have strong feelings about this one.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:22
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OK, so if I'm getting my head around it, the two novels are the main plot of TLV, and all the other stuff is filling in side stories about those? Also apparently remenents of Faction Paradox show up in one of the side stories? I thought they weren't canon to the main Doctor Who universe, since the Eighth Doctor Adventures take place in an alternative timeline, but I guess that multiverse hopping is sort of their thing.
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Oct 19, 2020 23:12
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I gotta say, the animated Macra Terror was pretty solid and made me like the show way more than I did for the first reconstructed version of it I watched. It makes me wonder... maybe I'd even like The Space Pirates if I could at least see it in motion to go with the audio... 
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Oct 20, 2020 01:56
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That’s why I voted in the poll the way I did - the Space Pirates has everything to gain by being animated.
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Oct 20, 2020 02:06
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Happy in the knowledge that I'm so far behind on Big Finish, that by the time I catch up to someone else playing the War Doctor, either John Hurt will have been dead for a respectful amount of time, or I will have been.
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Oct 20, 2020 02:25
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Not sure if he's pulling it off or not. He doesn't sound like Hurt's Doctor, but he's also playing him younger so... 
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Oct 20, 2020 04:59
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Astroman posted:Not sure if he's pulling it off or not. He doesn't sound like Hurt's Doctor, but he's also playing him younger so... I could buy him as 'younger John Hurt'. But to be more specific, in Night of the Doctor itself they showed the younger War Doctor, using an actual picture of a younger John Hurt as basis. I know that picture is from something he was actually in, or at least from when he was acting. I know basicallly nothing of John Hurt roles, but maybe compare against, like... Alien, maybe?
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Oct 20, 2020 07:08
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Jerusalem posted:I gotta say, the animated Macra Terror was pretty solid and made me like the show way more than I did for the first reconstructed version of it I watched. It makes me wonder... maybe I'd even like The Space Pirates if I could at least see it in motion to go with the audio... I really liked the animated Macra Terror but I'm still annoyed they cut one of the best scenes from Episode 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjyJQbyR_4k
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Oct 20, 2020 08:19
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https://twitter.com/tardis_monkey/status/1318531735961952256
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Oct 20, 2020 17:14
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Cleretic posted:I could buy him as 'younger John Hurt'. But to be more specific, in Night of the Doctor itself they showed the younger War Doctor, using an actual picture of a younger John Hurt as basis. I know that picture is from something he was actually in, or at least from when he was acting. I know basicallly nothing of John Hurt roles, but maybe compare against, like... Alien, maybe? Thank you, Astroman. And I absolutely can buy this as a younger John Hurt. If anything, I'd say compare him to Time After Time - which doesn't hold up as well, but as a mixture of our War Doctor and earlier Hurt, I think it works to show the character versus the actor.
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Oct 20, 2020 17:49
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McGann posted:And I absolutely can buy this as a younger John Hurt. If anything, I'd say compare him to Time After Time - which doesn't hold up as well, but as a mixture of our War Doctor and earlier Hurt, I think it works to show the character versus the actor. You mean the movie? That was Malcolm McDowell and David Warner, not John Hurt.
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Oct 20, 2020 20:12
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you know what bums me out? I don't actually mind a lot of the plot from season 11/12, (timeless child fuckery aside) but dear god, the music. Murry Gold will never release that last season of music, and I want it. That finally mash up as he's giving his goodbye speech of the bird speech his theme is so good... Ugh. the new music is fine at times and 12's theme is pretty good, but episode to episode it isn't like old Gold. drat he's good.
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Oct 20, 2020 23:22
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I was watching The Beast Must Die last night, a mid-70s Amicus movie about a wealthy hunter who brings a group of people he suspects to be werewolves to his estate, and one of the would-be werewolves sounded so drat familiar but I just couldn’t quite place it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6WErKYNTAA And then it hit me.  Duggan! You can always count on Amicus to hire a Doctor Who alum.
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Oct 21, 2020 10:07
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I was watching The Beast Must Die last night, a mid-70s Amicus movie about a wealthy hunter who brings a group of people he suspects to be werewolves to his estate, and one of the would-be werewolves sounded so drat familiar but I just couldn’t quite place it. He was also in one scene of Casino Royale as La Chiffe's stockbroker/accountant(?).
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Oct 21, 2020 14:53
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