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Rime posted:Was this posted last week? Bit heavy handed at the end, but great. a "bit." Marketing this war as Armenia fighting off hordes of muslamic style invaders for western civilization might be good at getting the chuds on your side, but it really is a short-sighted propaganda angle to take.
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Rime posted:Was this posted last week? Bit heavy handed at the end, but great. this is Der Sturmer level poo poo dude
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Azerbaijan was really dominating in the hosed up propaganda department when the latest fighting first heated up. The last few post show that Armenia is catching up in that department quickly.
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The International Turk: The World's Problem lol at the world map (including Antarctica) completely covered by the turkish flag
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this one is also good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOI0O7sATAU
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Yeah, i really wish people could be capable of criticizing turkey without veering into solutions for the "turk problem"
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Armenian: what if....erdogan and aliyev are loving!!!
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:The International Turk: The World's Problem for reasons i cannot explain why, the idea of an international turkish conspiracy is endlessly amusing to me
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Raskolnikov38 posted:for reasons i cannot explain why, the idea of an international turkish conspiracy is endlessly amusing to me boris johnson, or should i say boris kemal,
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FROM ALTAI TO AUSTRIA
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Beç Türk'tür!
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https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1319205663076159490?s=20 this account is a bit biased towards armenia, so I basically trust these numbers. not looking good for Armenia.
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1319205663076159490?s=20 I forgot what interstate war was tbh. The war started almost 30 days ago and Armenia has already acknowledged closed to 1000 KIA. I think the war might end soon, Azeris are 30 km from Lachin, if they take that they cut Karabakh off from Armenia wisconsingreg has issued a correction as of 16:44 on Oct 22, 2020 |
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/UnitedHumanity5/status/1315382419239964673?s=20 https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1319275079730036736
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40 dead officially on a single day is horrific in a population this size, they absolutely need to shut this down. Just start arrangements for settling the refugees and hope the Russians will put a foot down when it comes to enforcing the borders of Armenia proper.
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Armenia's hope at this point is that Azerbaijan advances have almost exclusively been in low-land territory and to reach Lachin, the Azerbaijanis need to force their way through an extremely narrow valley from the south (about 1000 ft) and nearly everything else is mountainous.
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1319205663076159490?s=20 Real disruption of drones is that you don't have to be the USA to be able to lay waste to other armies with airpower.
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https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1319723293973368832?s=20 I assume he represents the Armenian communities in LA, but it's still weird to see
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1319205663076159490?s=20 Not to paint the numbers as good, but keep in mind that huge attrition among armor is expected in modern war. Both Israel and Egypt lost 60%+ of their tanks in only 19 days in the Yom Kippur war. I suspect that Azeri losses are also bad, it's just that we don't have drone videos of their poo poo being blown up. That said the fact that Armenia has lost pretty much the entire southern lowlands is not a great sign -- at best they decided that fighting for every inch in the open terrain was no longer tenable and at worst their defenses just collapsed.
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I'm fairly confident nobody plans on losing 40% of their tanks in two days. If you're comparing Armenia's situation to Israel in Yom Kippur where they came quite close to getting overrun and spreading 13 nukes around the middle east then that's about as negative an analogy as you could imagine.
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33 T-72s isn't 40% of their armor, Armenia and Artsakh combined have something like 500 tanks iirc. And the Arabs suffered similar attrition in Yom Kippur; they lost nearly two-thirds of their tanks (plus when the ceasefire was called they had a basically undefended path to Cairo. It's unlikely that they ever would have seriously needed to use nukes). Armored warfare in the age of precision weapons and advanced optics is brutal. e: Similarly, in the Battle of Kursk the Soviets lost over half of their armored vehicles in only 11 days and they won. Point being that very few people outside of the general staffs of Armenia and Azerbaijan have an accurate picture of what the military situation is at the moment so it feels rash to examine only one side's materiel loss figures and try to draw any conclusions from it. sum has issued a correction as of 04:27 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Yeah I guess the only more apocalyptic tank battle in history would have been Kursk, if you're trying to go even more negative.
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Ahh the CSPAM classic of doing smug hellworld posts to camouflage the fact that you don't know what you're talking about
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If there's one thing the grim fate of the Armenian tank arm has taught us it's the value of camouflage
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sum posted:e: Similarly, in the Battle of Kursk the Soviets lost over half of their armored vehicles in only 11 days and they won. Point being that very few people outside of the general staffs of Armenia and Azerbaijan have an accurate picture of what the military situation is at the moment so it feels rash to examine only one side's materiel loss figures and try to draw any conclusions from it. The difference at least in WWII was the Soviet rapidly moved to centralized war footing and could actually backfill materials losses fairly quickly. I'm sure countries in this conflict don't have the above capability due to depending on things like arms exports for their military.
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How's the war looking? still a stalemate or is the momentum now with the Azeris?
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Al-Saqr posted:How's the war looking? still a stalemate or is the momentum now with the Azeris? Hard to say. Not much movement. Michael Kofman, who has been writing non-biased narratives of the conflict every week, first said that Azeri tactical successes hadn't translated, but he's revised that to say that he things the tide is now firmly with the Azeris. https://eurasianet.org/perspectives-armenias-military-position-in-nagorno-karabakh-grows-precarious Basically both sides have taken huge losses, but Armenia can't replace them.
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Vasukhani posted:Hard to say. Not much movement. Michael Kofman, who has been writing non-biased narratives of the conflict every week, first said that Azeri tactical successes hadn't translated, but he's revised that to say that he things the tide is now firmly with the Azeris. Yeah both countries depend on arms imports for high value items like tanks.
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So how long before the parent nations start fighting in earnest? Will Russia, etc let the Azeri / Israeli forces continue and take Armenia? If Russia stop pretending what are the odds everyone else will go all in?
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:this is Der Sturmer level poo poo dude It's a Rime post. Were you honestly expecting something different?
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With all the discussion of drones in here, I figure I will ask what I can only assume is the dumbest of dumb questions. Why don't we see anti-drone (fighter) drones? Or are they there and it's just not something that gets brought up?
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They exist sorta, but its largely a futile effort, kinda like anti-scud missiles. A drone capable of murdering other drones is going to be an order of magnitude more expensive that most of the drones it would be killing.
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https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1320692782739107841 Hoping this is true.
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lol goddamn this system sounds insanequote:Krasukha-2[edit]
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yeah the russian military invests heavily in defensive jamming gear like that. assuming it's because their primary expected foe is the U.S. military which, you know, has a lot of sophisticated systems and aircraft. maybe there's some kind of red alert 2 reference you could use
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your drone is now... ours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDV9Am5AlYY
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I'm sure it's already been posted but can someone summarize the reasons for this conflict for those who aren't familiar, please?
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:yeah the russian military invests heavily in defensive jamming gear like that. assuming it's because their primary expected foe is the U.S. military which, you know, has a lot of sophisticated systems and aircraft. The US expeditionary war mindset can never really keep up with fighting an enemy that can actually replace losses by rolling replacements out of the factory gates and into battle. I think having stuff be so whizbang also makes a lot of it more irreplaceable than America likes to admit
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https://t.me/bagramyan26/21790 https://t.me/bagramyan26/21791 "We must find resources to force Azerbaijan to make concessions: Pashinyan" "Armenian people are ready for painful concessions, but not for surrender: Pashinyan" literally in the same speech ????????????
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