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Vasukhani posted:https://t.me/bagramyan26/21790 hmmmm sounds like things are going rather poorly for the armenians....
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UnknownTarget posted:I'm sure it's already been posted but can someone summarize the reasons for this conflict for those who aren't familiar, please? In the extreme short term: an Armenian enclave in a majority Azeri region seceded and seized the surrounding areas for itself and ethnically cleansed it all in the process, while both Azerbaijan and Armenia were busy purging their societies of each other in the aftermath of the collapse of the USSR. Azerbaijan wants the area back. Theres been a long history of back and forth ethnic cleansing in the region, but this one is fresh enough the survivors are all still pretty much alive so its alot harder to say "well its past history just forget it", but at the same time the safety of the Armenian minority in NGK is uh....not secure underneath the Azerbaijan government. So its probably not gonna be a great thing if Azeri tanks roll into Stepanakert to get their Hitler on, but the military leaders of the enclave themselves are fascist trash. So the thing to do as leftists is to root for the Armenians, warts and all, while keeping in mind that there's a large Azeri refugee population that would still like to return some day.
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Oct 26, 2020 18:26
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As a leftist I don't have to "root" for anyone in a pointless spasm of ethnic violence
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this is from the same youtube account as the Kill Dem der sturmer propaganda lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60eJjK6WdQQ
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shovelbum posted:As a leftist I don't have to "root" for anyone in a pointless spasm of ethnic violence The leftist thing to support is Russia enforcing the madrid principles
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If that Krasukha thing actually works as well as they claim this conflict is the best advertisement for the thing the Russians could have ever wished for. Hapless nation gets owned by drones UNTIL Krasukha-chan rolls in, inquire under sales@rosboronexport.ru e: if they're for sale e: should be easy to tell whether it works by checking Armenian twitter for pics of piles of Bayraktar wreckage aphid_licker has issued a correction as of 20:50 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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I always thought it would be pretty easy to laser or microwave a satellite into a useless pile of junk. Especially a huge one like the ISS or Hubble. It's probably harder to make radar sensitive enough to track these tiny stealthy drones.
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Pryor on Fire posted:I always thought it would be pretty easy to laser or microwave a satellite into a useless pile of junk. Especially a huge one like the ISS or Hubble. It's probably harder to make radar sensitive enough to track these tiny stealthy drones. 
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Vasukhani posted:The leftist thing to support is Russia enforcing the madrid principles If we're advocating fantasy options then I want the Transcaucasian republic back. Short of that then yeah hoping Stepanakert doesn't get overrun is the least bad option.
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Oct 27, 2020 00:28
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bring back iberia just to get confusing
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https://twitter.com/KarabakhRecords/status/1320579828605722628i say swears online posted:bring back iberia just to get confusing and albania
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Pryor on Fire posted:I always thought it would be pretty easy to laser or microwave a satellite into a useless pile of junk. Especially a huge one like the ISS or Hubble. It's probably harder to make radar sensitive enough to track these tiny stealthy drones. Sheng-Ji Yang posted:_________________________________________/ quote:The Krasukha-4 (Krasuha-4?) is a mobile electronic warfare (EW) system mounted onto a BAZ-6910-022 8x8 truck system. The Krasukha-4 is intended to neutralize Low-Earth Orbit (LEO) spy satellites, ground-based radars and airborne radars (AWACS) at ranges between 150 to 300 kilometers. The system is also able to cause damage to the enemy's EW systems and communications. The Krasukha-4 system works by creating powerful jamming at the fundamental radar frequencies and other radio-emitting sources. The system is manufactured by the Bryansk Electromechanical Plant (KRET). Iran has these already btw.
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Yeah it wouldn't even take much energy or a particularly sophisticated computer to just melt a big unmaneuverable LEO satellite, they aren't really designed to dissipate energy into a vacuum very well. Totally different problem than a ballistic missile.
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Vasukhani posted:and albania There's still like 10k of them around so a microstate is technically feasible.
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Similarly, Russia would have had a whole lot less problems this century if it hadn't broken up Circassia and genocided 90% of the population, leaving behind powerfully bitter, impoverished, and geographically isolated successor states to become fertile breeding grounds for radicalized terrorists - happy to take it home to Moscow. Ottoman Empire, Yugoslavia, USSR, all of these are a case study in how arbitrarily partitioning vast regions with deep and ancient ethnic rivalries was a collosal mistake - once absent the authoritarian imperial regimes which kept internal conflict in check via mass murder and mass population transfer it swiftly turned into axe murders and landmines. Can you imagine the utter shitshow Turkey and the Caucasus would be today if the Treaty of Sevres had been fully enforced, giving a third of Anatolia to Armenia and restoring its historical borders, when they partitioned the Ottoman Empire? Carving out Iraq and Iran and Syria caused enough of a cluster gently caress as is. Rime has issued a correction as of 03:39 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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wheres the hoi mod for that? i'd play as regional mega-power armenia
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wheres the hoi mod for that? i'd play as regional mega-power armenia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIjKZj0AF6U https://www.theonion.com/armenia-azerbaijan-announce-they-will-only-agree-to-ce-1845484791
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Rime posted:Can you imagine the utter shitshow Turkey and the Caucasus would be today if the Treaty of Sevres had been fully enforced
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Rime posted:Similarly, Russia would have had a whole lot less problems this century if it hadn't broken up Circassia and genocided 90% of the population, leaving behind powerfully bitter, impoverished, and geographically isolated successor states to become fertile breeding grounds for radicalized terrorists - happy to take it home to Moscow. The part of Sevres which is most overlooked is giving huge swathes of anatolia to the Italians and French. Can you imagine WW2 in Turkey? Assuming Italy still went fascist.
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the california theater of the war continues to heat up https://twitter.com/henrykleektvu/status/1318756002162823175?s=21 https://twitter.com/henrykleektvu/status/1320928876134948865 e: thankfully the locals seem unaware https://twitter.com/eastbay_raider/status/1320939519634337792?s=21 Raskolnikov38 has issued a correction as of 05:56 on Oct 27, 2020 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the california theater of the war continues to heat up love that the person just wrote "turks,"
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it's a conflict in the Caucuses, so they're Caucasian, so they're white it checks out.
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Vasukhani posted:love that the person just wrote "turks," He wrote "gently caress Turks" Twitter cropped the sides.
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Oct 27, 2020 06:12
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 2 mcchickens and some 1915 sauce please
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does it say "peace is really great!"?
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i say swears online posted:does it say "peace is really great!"? I'm lovin' it.
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Vasukhani posted:
doesn't this violate the principle that two nations that both have McDonalds in them will never go to war with each other?
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gradenko_2000 posted:doesn't this violate the principle that two nations that both have McDonalds in them will never go to war with each other? That was really Armenia's biggest mistake.
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https://twitter.com/armenia/status/818794559585001472?s=20 Old tweet. I would like to see a war between McDonald’s and the Combination-KFC-Pizza Hut/Burger King coalition
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/armenia/status/818794559585001472?s=20 Uhh hello?? what do you think is really going on right now!? Those drones aren’t really Israeli, they have the hamburglars prints all over them!! Wake up sheeple
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twoday posted:https://twitter.com/armenia/status/818794559585001472?s=20 the Yum! Battalions
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new Caspian Report video on the conflict https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesivHrMNcc
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Al-Saqr posted:hmmmm sounds like things are going rather poorly for the armenians.... Well it's not surprising given how their opponents did a multi-billion dollar arms import strategy over the last few years.
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Oct 27, 2020 13:58
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maybe kim and kanye lead to cultural victory
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Jalal Harutyunyan, minister of defense for Artsakh, has been assassinated in a targeted drone strike.
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Vasukhani posted:Jalal Harutyunyan, minister of defense for Artsakh, has been assassinated in a targeted drone strike. Is this confirmed by outside sources anywhere? I've only seen that he was wounded, but I'm sure that could be false
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bagual posted:new Caspian Report video on the conflict He is clearly showing his bias in that video btw.
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Boredumb posted:Is this confirmed by outside sources anywhere? I've only seen that he was wounded, but I'm sure that could be false They initially said he was only "lightly wounded" (but still needed to be replaced) but then confirmed he died. Based on the video I assume they wanted to pry his arm from where it fused to the vehicle to take his pulse first. But the dude was probably the most important official in Artsakh, and kind of the unofficial head of state, so this is a pretty major assassination.
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Ardennes posted:He is clearly showing his bias in that video btw. Yeah the host is azeri, some of his videos were posted earlier in the thread and people discussed his bias, I should have posted the context as well, the maps always defaulting to Azerbaijani claims should tip people off.
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